Sopimusluonnoksessa

"...mutta talouden realiteetit vaativat Euroopan maita suhteiden normalisointiin. "

On se vähän näinkin. Monen maan talous on hiukan huonossa jamassa ja rahalle olisi käyttöä.

EU ei ole ollut ihan niin yhtenäinen kuin mitä olisi voinut kuvitella. Unkari ostaa öljyä Venäjältä, Slovakia on kieltäytynyt aseelllisesta tuesta, eikä Venäjältä jäädytettyjen varojen käytöstäkään ole päästy sopimukseen vielä(kään).

Toiselta palstalta lainaus. Palstan ryssäbotit, jos ymmärtävät englantia, tietävät hyvin, että "sopimusluonnos" on venäjän vaatimuslista.

Comparing the English version to Russian-language publications of the same plan reveals several phrasings that are stilted or unusual in natural English but flow smoothly and idiomatically in Russian, suggesting translation artifacts (often called "translationese"). Here are key examples:

Point 2: English reads "All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled." This uses "ambiguities," which feels imprecise or overly vague in English diplomatic contexts—better alternatives might be "disputes" or "issues." In Russian, it's "Все противоречия последних 30 лет будут считаться урегулированными," where "противоречия" (contradictions/disputes) is a standard formal term that fits perfectly in legal or treaty language.

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Point 10 (subpoint): English says "If Ukraine launches a missile at Moscow or St Petersburg without cause, the security guarantee will be deemed invalid." "Without cause" sounds simplistic or legally awkward in English; more idiomatic phrasing would be "unprovoked" or "without justification." The Russian equivalent is "без причины," a straightforward and common expression in Russian security documents.

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Point 24: English states "All remaining prisoners and bodies will be exchanged on an 'all for all' basis." "Prisoners and bodies" is curt and somewhat insensitive in English, typically phrased as "prisoners and remains" or "POWs and the deceased." In Russian, it's "пленные и тела погибших," which is direct but unremarkable. Additionally, "'all for all'" is a literal rendering of the idiomatic Russian "всех на всех," a phrase commonly used in Russian-Ukrainian prisoner exchange negotiations since 2014—it doesn't have a direct English equivalent and stands out as foreign-sourced.

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Point 26: English reads "All parties involved in this conflict will receive full amnesty for their actions during the war and agree not to make any claims or consider any complaints in the future." "Consider any complaints" is oddly passive and bureaucratic in English; a more natural version might be "pursue any grievances" or "entertain any lawsuits." The Russian is "не предъявлять никаких претензий и не рассматривать никаких жалоб," using standard legal verbs ("рассматривать" means "to consider/examine" in a judicial sense) that are precise and conventional in Russian treaties.

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Other elements, like the frequent use of passive or impersonal constructions (e.g., "It is expected that" in Point 3, matching Russian "Ожидается, что"), and the emphasis on "rejecting Nazi ideology" (Point 20), echo Russian propaganda narratives and formal drafting styles.

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Overall, these quirks support the idea that the plan—or at least key sections—was originally composed in Russian, with the English version being a close but not fully polished translation.

Let's make America great again! Kuului Trumpin slogan. Siihen hän tähtää koko ajan.

Sitten tällaiset kärpäsenä katossa sotaa katsovat leimataan trumpitiksi tai kätyriksi riippuen leimaajan omasta suuntautumisestaan. Heitä kovin kiukuttaa kun en jaa heidän yksipuolista näkemystään 😅