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Turvaa tilisi vahvistamalla puhelinnumerosi. Voit silloin palauttaa unohtuneen salasanan tekstiviestillä.
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Mahtaa johtua kaiken maailman hihhuleista, jotka tulevat tänne uskontoaan tuputtamaan ja siitä etteivät satanistit viitsi tänne pahemmin kirjoitella...
mahtuisivat yhdelle palstalle,mutta tästä nyt on jo jauhettu.Pistäkää viestiä zät-hallinnolle?
Pistäpä jotakin jolla on tekemistä palstan aiheen kanssa!
vain lisäisi lahkolaisten vihanpurkauksia aihetta kohtaan jota he eivät ymmärrä
Mutta on se helvetin harmillista, että ei voida keskustella!
Jos aiheesta keskustelu saa jonkun lahkolaisen kyrpä-joosepin suuttumaan niin mitä väliä? Ei täällä mihinkään raamattuterroriin alistuta prkl!
Sitä paitsi uskovaisten tekstien lukeminen auttaa muistamaan miksi olemme heitä parempia.
Tietääkseni teikäläisissä on melkoinen määrä lahkolaisia, joihin myös palvaajat kuuluvat. Hehän ovat tosin aito-satanistien mielestä kerettiläisiä, mutta satanistinen ideologia antaa kuitenkin heidän opilleen pohjan esim. Anton La Veyn kirjoitukset.
"Sitä paitsi uskovaisten tekstien lukeminen auttaa muistamaan miksi olemme heitä parempia."
Kaiketi luokittelet myös saatananpalvojat uskovaisiksi? Sitähän he ovat satanismin ideologian mukaan.
Satanisti-hihhuleiden mukaan tämänkin palstan voisi jakaa kymmeniin osiin. Niin paljon näyttää olevan eri käsien kulkijoita heidän joukossaan.
Kyllä, luen saatananpalvojat uskovaisiin. Jos he lukevat LaVeyn tekstejä eivätkä niitä ymmärrä niin sehän ei ole meidän ongelmamme.
Ja muistakaa, satanismi tarkoittaa juuri LaVeyn määrittelemään uskontoa/filosofiaa. Tästä aiheesta olikin hyvä essee CoS:in keskustelupalstoilla. Kaikkihan täällä englantia osaavat, eikö? Kiitokset Warlock Bill M:lle. Onhan se aika pitkä mutta laitetaan nyt silti.
Only One Satanism
I'm sure some people, especially those obsessed with bashing the COS and/or Anton LaVey, will think that the statement of "We are the real Satanists, period" is just an ignorant ethnocentric stance. In other words, some think that the statement is no different than Protestants, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. each claiming "We're the REAL Christians; the others aren't." This isn't so.
We have a good reason for being able to claim the title as our own: we were the first. We were not an offshoot or sect of anything else. Satanism certainly had its share of influences, just like every other religion has. But the philosophy, ceremony, and dogma of it as a whole make it extremely different than anything that ever existed prior to it. The founding of the Church of Satan marked the first time in known history that an applicable, codified religion under the name of "Satanism" existed. And "codified" is a key word here.
Sure, there were people now and then performing rituals based on elaborate church propaganda stories like “The Black Mass”, or creatively trying to invert parts of the Holy Bible or additional Catholic ceremonial traditions. But it was nothing centralized nor structured enough to honestly be called its own religion, let alone one that was public, and let alone one that had practitioners that identified themselves as "Satanists". I’ve also seen sensationalist journalists cite Crowley as having been a "Satanist", but they are obviously oblivious to what he wrote and practiced, and how and his adherents identified themselves.
Another thing that makes “We are the real Satanists” a different claim than some Christian sect saying “We are the real Christians” is the difference in canon. The Holy Bible is a vague book written over thousands of years by countless people, with translations of translations of translations. These groups have always argued over which parts deserve more attention than others, and how to manifest that. The Satanic Bible does not have the same ambiguity about it. It is less than 40 years old and came out well after the invention of the printing press. You can find first editions of the book and compare the words, which aside from introductions and the like have not changed. The religion presented in this book has no dietary restrictions, no list of long “thou shalt” and “thou shalt not” behaviors, subjective parables, or anything else that could reasonably lead to different “interpretations”.
Getting back to etymology, people had always heard terms like "devil worship" before. As for the word “Satanism”, it wasn’t in much use before 1966. I have seen some people try to dig up some arcane dictionary definition of “satanism” (note the small “s”), apparently used in the seventeenth century. But the definition they give reveals that the word was used to describe any sort of anti-Christian action, as in “Homosexuality is a satanism”. Obviously, the suffix “ism” here implies a specific act or item, as is the case with words like “anachronism”, “baptism”, or “organism”. This isn’t the same use of “ism” to describe an ideology, as in “Hinduism” or “feminism”.
It wasn't until after 1966 that the term "Satanism" became a word used more and more in so much media and entertainment, that it has now become the more popular term for describing, albeit inaccurately, devil worship. And with that, there have been people who practice nothing resembling the religion presented in The Satanic Bible yet still call themselves by that term that they heard on TV: "Satanists". Most of them are just devil worshippers who practice blasphemy out of boredom, attention, rebellion against their parents or some other authority figure, or in rare cases because they experienced some sort of self-delusional "spiritual awakening" that they attribute to some existent, spooky deity.
So there’s no need for terms like “Modern Satanism” or “LaVeyian Satanism”. They are redundancies, and their only purpose is to lend credibility to devil worshippers and disgruntled LaVey haters falsely self-labeled as “Satanists”.
WE got dibs on the name. Get over it.