varokaa krisnalaisia!

Liikkeen sisällä ollaan tosi tyrmistyneitä siitä välinpitämättömyydestä jota lapsien paha kohtalo saa liikkeen johdon suunnalta.

Tuossa kerrotaan esimerkiksi BhaktiVidyaPurna Swamista. Hän on todistetusti hakannut koulupoikia, ja vielä siitä syystä että nämä kehtaavat tulla hänen luo hädissään kertomaan että isommat pojat raiskaavat heitä!

http://prabhupadavision.com/2012/01/request-to-review/

Eli hän ei myöskään johtajana kitkenyt näitä raiskaajia pois koululaitoksesta.

Tämä kyseinen BVS on yhä kahden ISKCON:in koulun administraatiossa ja opettajana. Näin Intiassa. Jos tämä lasten hakkaaminen olisi tullut julki esim. USA:ssa tapahtuneena, istuisi tuo molesteri jo vankilassa pitkkäää tuomiota.

Uusi valloitus on olla opettaja TYTTÖJEN luokissa, vaikka hän on sannyasi-munkki.

Suomen Krishnaliikkeen Bhaktivedanta College kutsuu tämän saman lastenhakkaajan monesti vuodessa pitämään luentoja ja seminaareja eri aiheista...

Sitaattia linkistä:

"Some have put forth the generous consideration that perhaps Maharaj was merely highly incompetent, and that his gross negligence and the severe physical abuse he inflicted, somehow, were not deliberate, but rather due to a lack of qualifications and adequate training. Even accepting these shallow ploys, there are still some natural questions left unanswered, such as: why and by whom was it decided that it was sensible and serving the best interests of ISKCON, the children or Maharaj himself, to reinstate him, on not just one but two separate occasions???

We must also consider that Maharaj’s lack of effort to take responsibility for his wrongdoings, apologize and make the necessary amends, coupled with his lies to downplay and cover up the same, as well as his continued involvement with children suggests that he does not afford his past misconduct the necessary importance.

After the publication of my article, I have been made aware of allegations, which constitute reasonable cause for concern suggesting that the safety of the children in Maharaj’s care may be at risk. Though I was initially reluctant, in light of these allegations, I now find it necessary to request an investigation on Maharaj and his gurukulas.

The allegations assert that the use of psychological manipulation, fear and coercion are commonplace practices used to control the children in the schools. It appears that Maharaj has daily interactions with the children, and that he is portrayed to them as their Guru; the kids are encouraged to look upon the role he occupies as being more important than that of their parents and that therefore his wishes and instructions take precedence over those of their parents. The children are not given a specific time to chant japa and Srila Prabhupada’s books are not part of the school curriculum; the only time children are given time to read them is if they enrol in the bhaktishastri course.

An example is the recent trip to Sweden of the girls in Maharaj’s Gurukula. It appears that as the travel arrangements were being made the girls were specifically instructed that discussing the travels plans with their parents was not important or necessary.

The most alarming accusations are related to Maharaj’s relationship with the girls in his school; they are told that it is Maharaj alone that will determine whom they can and will marry and how their lives will be shaped.

It is alleged that in the gurukulas there is an atmosphere of oppression and that it is run on a management style based on fear and intimidation. During the vacations the children are called to come to school most days and if the parents object, the children are chastised. There are also allegations claiming that Sri Radhe, the principal of the girls’ gurukula, uses offensive language to chastise her students."

Ai näitä?

www.asitis.com

Kysyväinen kirjoitti:

Ai näitä?

www.asitis.com

No vaikka noita, paljon muitakin kiinnostavia tekstejä tosin mielestäni on tarjolla.

Sain ilmaiseksi juuri tuon Bhagavad Gitan suomennoksen jostain kirpparin nurkasta. Gitan sisältö on hienoa näinkin käännettynä, kommentit ovat mielestäni paikoitellen aikamoista huttua.

Tuntemusteni ja järkeni mukaan paljon osuvampia Gitan kommentteja löytyy muualta.

Jokaisella on tietysti näistä omat näkemyksensä.

Vaikka Ramana Maharshi ei systemaattisesti kommentoinut Gitaa, viittasi hän siihen mielestäni viisaasti puheissaan.

Esimerkki mielestän paremmasta kommentista on tämä lainaus Ramana Maharshilta:

"Sri Krishna also says in the Gita, whether Arjuna liked it or not he would be forced to fight. When there is work to be done by you, you cannot keep away; nor can you continue to do a thing when you are not required to do it, that is to say, when the work allotted to you has been done. In short, the work will go on and you must take your share in it - the share which is allotted to you."

no joo kirjoitti:

Vaikka Ramana Maharshi ei systemaattisesti kommentoinut Gitaa, viittasi hän siihen mielestäni viisaasti puheissaan.

Esimerkki mielestän paremmasta kommentista on tämä lainaus Ramana Maharshilta:

"Sri Krishna also says in the Gita, whether Arjuna liked it or not he would be forced to fight. When there is work to be done by you, you cannot keep away; nor can you continue to do a thing when you are not required to do it, that is to say, when the work allotted to you has been done. In short, the work will go on and you must take your share in it - the share which is allotted to you."

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Persoonattomuusfilosofi Ramana Maharshi ei tuo mitään oivalluksensa pohjalta, vaan toistaa mitä Krishna sanoo, muuttaen vain sanoja.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada sensijaan, koska on oivaltanut ikuisen suhteensa Krishnaan aidossa oppilasketjussa, antaa sen syvemmän tiedon mikä näissä säkeissä on:

"..Arjuna was a military man, and born of the nature of the ksatriya. Therefore his natural duty was to fight. But, due to false ego, he was fearing that by killing his teacher, grandfather and friends, there would be sinful reactions.

Actually he was considering himself master of his actions, as if he were directing the good and bad results of such work. He forgot that the Supreme Personality of Godhead was present there, instructing him to fight. That is the forgetfulness of the conditioned soul.

The Supreme Personality gives directions as to what is good and what is bad, and one simply has to act in Krsna consciousness to attain the perfection of life..."

http://www.asitis.com/18/59.html

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Persoonattomuusfilosofi Ramana Maharshi ei tuo mitään oivalluksensa pohjalta, vaan toistaa mitä Krishna sanoo, muuttaen vain sanoja.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada sensijaan, koska on oivaltanut ikuisen suhteensa Krishnaan aidossa oppilasketjussa, antaa sen syvemmän tiedon mikä näissä säkeissä on:

"..Arjuna was a military man, and born of the nature of the ksatriya. Therefore his natural duty was to fight. But, due to false ego, he was fearing that by killing his teacher, grandfather and friends, there would be sinful reactions.

Actually he was considering himself master of his actions, as if he were directing the good and bad results of such work. He forgot that the Supreme Personality of Godhead was present there, instructing him to fight. That is the forgetfulness of the conditioned soul.

The Supreme Personality gives directions as to what is good and what is bad, and one simply has to act in Krsna consciousness to attain the perfection of life..."

http://www.asitis.com/18/59.html

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Hare Krisna -liikkeessä tuo persoonattomuudella / persoonallisuudella pelaaminen näyttää olevan tärkeää, persoonattomuusfilosofiasta varoitellaan ahkerasti. Hindulaisista perinneteksteistä voi näköjään olla löytävinään tukea tässä suhteessa vastakkaisille näkemyksille.

Albert Einstein ei ollut hindu eikä filosofi, mutta ilmeisesti ymmärsi enemmän kuin tavallinen tallaaja. Einstein näki erilliset persoonallisuudet harhaksi:

“A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness."

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/369-a-human-being-is-a-part-of-the-whole-called

Einsteinin ja monen muun tieteilijän mukaan siis "persoonattomuusfilosofiaa" teksteistä löytävät ovat lähempänä totuutta. Todellisuudessa ei meillä ihmisillä eikä jumaluuksillakaan ole erillistä persoonaa, minuutta.

Onko sitten olemassa eri uskontoja, seurakuntia jne., joissa ei väärinkäytöksiä olisi?

Tuosta pääsee Intia viiliksiin, eikun nupit kaakkoon
https://youtu.be/iTJ6xmL5dcI

San kaa raa jee soo vaasaa paa taa taa jee jee.

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Tuosta pääsee Intia viiliksiin, eikun nupit kaakkoon
https://youtu.be/iTJ6xmL5dcI

San kaa raa jee soo vaasaa paa taa taa jee jee.

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Tällaisen kanssa pitäisi kai vetää jotain huumetta niin pääsisi fiiliksiin.