mara

mara=merkkien kyttääjä
Monk= Lama, Rinpoche
Disciple/pratyekabuddha= erehtynyt buddhalaisesta polusta yleensä uskonnollista porukkaa
perfection of wisdom= kirjat Perfect wisdom, 8,000 lines perfection of wisdom, Large sutra on perfect wisdom
myös DZOGCHEN, chan, mahamudra ovat samaan suuntaan

(kirjoitus virheitä on...)

Mara, the evil one, makes an effort to dissuade from wisdom

Moreover. Mara. the evil one in the guise of a monk bestirs himself to prevent. by many devices, anyone from copying this perfection of wisdom, etc to: from attending to it.
subhuti: for what reason dos he do so ?
The Lord: Because as a result of the perfection of wisdom all beings can forsake their defilements. Moreover, mara, the evil one, will come along in the guise of a monk, in order to cause dissension and he will say that ‘this sutra as it has come to you is not the perfection of wisdom’ in order to dissuade people from copying etc. the perfection of wisdom. Moreover approaching in the guise of a monk. Mara, the evil one, will say ‘a bodhisattva who courses in this deep perfection of wisdom realizes the reality limit and attains the fruit of a streamwinner. etc to: the enlightenment of a pratyekabuddha. Some of those who have heard those words will then not course in the perfection of wisdom. This is another one of Mara’s deeds

Mara arranges a counterfeit (perfection of wisdom)

Moreover to those who copy, etc. to: develop this deep perfection of wisdom many deeds of mara will arise which will cause obstacles. A bodhisattva should avoid them.
subhuti: which are the deeds of mara that bodhisattva should recognise and avoid?
The Lord: mara will produce counterfeits of the perfection of wisdom and other perfections, and of the 18 kinds of emptiness. Others of his deeds will be connected with the disciples and pratyekabuddhas, and he will say: study these(?) and then attain the fruit of a streamwinner. etc to: arhatship! develop these 4 applications of mindfulness, etc to: the wishless door to deliverance! what is the point of your fully knowing the supreme enlightenment? in this way mara will arrange many deeds of this kind

Mara produces a longing for undesirable things.

Moreover, mara, the evil one, will approach in the guise of the Buddha, with a body shining like gold and the halo extending for a fathom around him. When the bodhisattva has seen him, longing will rise up in him, and he will fail to win all-knowledge. Moreover, mara, the evil one, will exhibit in front of those sons and daughters of good family a community of monks headed by the Buddha. Longing will thereupon arise in the bodhisattva, and he will think that ‘ I also will at future period be such a Tathagata, and I will likewise foster a host of monks. As this Tathagata. so will I also demonstrate Dharma! As a result of this longing he will fail to win all-knowledge. Moreover, mara, the evil one, will exhibit many hundreds and thousands of bodhisattvas who course in the six perfections.
Some bodhisattavas will feel longing for those illusory magical creations conjured by mara, and as a result they will fail to win all-knowledge. And why? Because in this deep perfection of wisdom no form exist, no feeling etc to: no enlightenment. And when no form exists,etc to: no enlightenment. And when no form exists, etc. to: no enlightenment, there also buddhas, bodhisattvas and disciples do not exist, and why ? Because all dharmas are empty in their own-being empty


the buddhas great might as illustrated by the simile of the precious things in jambudvipa and so on

moreover this perfection of wisdom will be bound up with many obstacles for those who bear it in mind, recite, explain and study it, and wisely attend to it. Just as the precious things in that there are in jambudvipa, such as gold, gems, pearls, lapis lazuli, conch shells, crystal, coral, silver etc are subject to many obstacles and provoke much hostility; just so those who copy, etc. to: develop this deep perfection of wisdom will endure many obstacles and much hostility
subhuti: So it is. O Lord so it is. O sugata. The Sutras associated with the perfection of wisdom will provoke much hostility. Beset by mara, of small and sluggish intelligence will be those deluded persons who will cause obstacles to this deep perfection of wisdom being copied, etc to: being developed. Nor will their intelligence be able to function in these very sublime dharmas if they do not copy etc. to: develop this deep perfection of wisdom, or if they cause obstacles to those who copy, etc. to: develop it

The Lord: So it is, Subhuti, so it is. Those people who will not copy out, etc to: wisely attend to this deep perfection of wisdom and who will cause obstacles to it being copied out, etc to: developed, they will be beset by Mara, they will have newly set out in the vehicle, they have planted no wholesome roots, have but tiny wholesome roots, have not done their duties under the Jinas of the past and have not been taken hold of by the good spiritual friends. Small, sluggish and limited will be their intelligence, and their thought will be unable to stride up into very sublime dharmas. But although these deeds of mara are bound to arise when this deep perfection of wisdom is being copied out, etc. to: is being developed, nevertheless is due to the buddhas might that often no deeds of mara and no obstacles arise to the study of this deep perfection and that in addition sons and daughters of good family can perfect the other 5 perfections, as well as the emptinesses, etc, to: the buddhadharmas and knowledge of all modes. Those buddhas and lords who abide in the 10 directions and demonstrate Dharma will make efforts on behalf of those sons and daughters of good family who copy out, etc. to: attend to this deep perfection of wisdom. And so will the irreversible bodhisattvas in the 10 directions, and they will bring help.
It is as with a woman who has many children 5 10 20 40 50 or 100, 1000, one hundred thousand. If se feels ill, they will all exert themselves so that their mother may not meet with any obstacles to her life, so that she may live long, so that no unpleasant touch may hit her body. For they feel that she is their genetrix and has given them their body and their life. They will therefore look well after their mother, protect her well, and hope that she will meet with no obstacle to her life.....
..... In this way the tathagatas bring this deep perfection of wisdom constantly and always to mind with their Buddha-eye. and why? Because they are aware that this deep perfection of wisdom is the genetrix of the tathagatas and their instructress in the cognition of all the buddhadharmas, and the maker(?) of the world. And the buddhas and lords who abide in all the 10 directions in countless world systems, they also constantly and always bring to mind just this deep perfection of wisdom with their Buddha-eye, and why? because this deep perfection of wisdom is the genetrix of the tathagatas and instructress in the cognition of the all-knowing. It is because of this that the tathagatas, motivated by gratitude, constantly and always bring this deep perfection of wisdom to mind with their Buddha-eye, and why? From it have come forth the tathagatas 6 perfections, 18 kinds of emptiness, etc, to: 18 buddhadharmas, 6 superknowledges, the knowledge of all modes of all buddhas, the countless and numberless buddhadharmas. From it have come forth the streamwinners, etc, to:the tathagatas, arhats, fully enlightened buddhas. All the tathagatas who have known, do know, and will know the supreme enlightenment, they all do so thanks to this deep perfection of wisdom. And those followers of the great vehicle who will copy out this deep perfection of wisdom etc, to: attend to it, they also will will all be brought to mind constantly and alway by the tathagatas with their Buddha-eye, and the tathagatas will constantly and always arrange shelter for them shelter, defense and protection, so that they may not fail to win the supreme enlightenment


The large sutra of perfect wisdom n. 700 sivua

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The precious way of abiding
The precious treasury of scriptural transmission
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  • suomenkielisiä ei ole paljon. Rokpan kotisivuilta löytää jotain ja sitten on Huinengin sutra käännetty Suomeksi, varmasti muutakin mielenkiintoista on suomeksi. En tiedä, luen pelkästään englannin kielistä kirjallisuutta.
    Ei mestarit synny tyhjästä, täytyy opiskella/meditoida

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Taidat olla koukussa keskustelupalstaan...
sanoit 'heihei' viikko sitten.

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  • mä jään aina helposti koukkuun, mutta yritän parhaani...maailma pyörii...

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>>olen lukenut/toistanut ääneen kirjan ainakin 10 kertaa>vaikuttavaa tekstiä, vielä parempaa on esim Longchenpan dzogchen tekstit, 2 tekstiä on yleisesti saatavana
The precious way of abiding
The precious treasury of scriptural transmission
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tarvitaan initaatio/lupa
jos on ongelmia tekstin saamiseksi voin auttaa.

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  • kyllä se siittä, olet aina tervetullut yrittämään....

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  • en ole buddha vielä, mutta kuulemma lähestyn nopeasti...
    voimakkaita tekstejä kuten dzogchen luetaan useita kertoja, itse luen the precious treasury of dharmadhatu www.mountaindev.com jo varmaan 5 kertaa ja aion lukea vielä useaan otteeseen, tekstit ovat yleensä vaikeita, siksi toistoja

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ngawang kirjoitti:

mara=merkkien kyttääjä
Monk= Lama, Rinpoche
Disciple/pratyekabuddha= erehtynyt buddhalaisesta polusta yleensä uskonnollista porukkaa
perfection of wisdom= kirjat Perfect wisdom, 8,000 lines perfection of wisdom, Large sutra on perfect wisdom
myös DZOGCHEN, chan, mahamudra ovat samaan suuntaan

(kirjoitus virheitä on...)

Mara, the evil one, makes an effort to dissuade from wisdom

Moreover. Mara. the evil one in the guise of a monk bestirs himself to prevent. by many devices, anyone from copying this perfection of wisdom, etc to: from attending to it.
subhuti: for what reason dos he do so ?
The Lord: Because as a result of the perfection of wisdom all beings can forsake their defilements. Moreover, mara, the evil one, will come along in the guise of a monk, in order to cause dissension and he will say that ‘this sutra as it has come to you is not the perfection of wisdom’ in order to dissuade people from copying etc. the perfection of wisdom. Moreover approaching in the guise of a monk. Mara, the evil one, will say ‘a bodhisattva who courses in this deep perfection of wisdom realizes the reality limit and attains the fruit of a streamwinner. etc to: the enlightenment of a pratyekabuddha. Some of those who have heard those words will then not course in the perfection of wisdom. This is another one of Mara’s deeds

Mara arranges a counterfeit (perfection of wisdom)

Moreover to those who copy, etc. to: develop this deep perfection of wisdom many deeds of mara will arise which will cause obstacles. A bodhisattva should avoid them.
subhuti: which are the deeds of mara that bodhisattva should recognise and avoid?
The Lord: mara will produce counterfeits of the perfection of wisdom and other perfections, and of the 18 kinds of emptiness. Others of his deeds will be connected with the disciples and pratyekabuddhas, and he will say: study these(?) and then attain the fruit of a streamwinner. etc to: arhatship! develop these 4 applications of mindfulness, etc to: the wishless door to deliverance! what is the point of your fully knowing the supreme enlightenment? in this way mara will arrange many deeds of this kind

Mara produces a longing for undesirable things.

Moreover, mara, the evil one, will approach in the guise of the Buddha, with a body shining like gold and the halo extending for a fathom around him. When the bodhisattva has seen him, longing will rise up in him, and he will fail to win all-knowledge. Moreover, mara, the evil one, will exhibit in front of those sons and daughters of good family a community of monks headed by the Buddha. Longing will thereupon arise in the bodhisattva, and he will think that ‘ I also will at future period be such a Tathagata, and I will likewise foster a host of monks. As this Tathagata. so will I also demonstrate Dharma! As a result of this longing he will fail to win all-knowledge. Moreover, mara, the evil one, will exhibit many hundreds and thousands of bodhisattvas who course in the six perfections.
Some bodhisattavas will feel longing for those illusory magical creations conjured by mara, and as a result they will fail to win all-knowledge. And why? Because in this deep perfection of wisdom no form exist, no feeling etc to: no enlightenment. And when no form exists,etc to: no enlightenment. And when no form exists, etc. to: no enlightenment, there also buddhas, bodhisattvas and disciples do not exist, and why ? Because all dharmas are empty in their own-being empty


the buddhas great might as illustrated by the simile of the precious things in jambudvipa and so on

moreover this perfection of wisdom will be bound up with many obstacles for those who bear it in mind, recite, explain and study it, and wisely attend to it. Just as the precious things in that there are in jambudvipa, such as gold, gems, pearls, lapis lazuli, conch shells, crystal, coral, silver etc are subject to many obstacles and provoke much hostility; just so those who copy, etc. to: develop this deep perfection of wisdom will endure many obstacles and much hostility
subhuti: So it is. O Lord so it is. O sugata. The Sutras associated with the perfection of wisdom will provoke much hostility. Beset by mara, of small and sluggish intelligence will be those deluded persons who will cause obstacles to this deep perfection of wisdom being copied, etc to: being developed. Nor will their intelligence be able to function in these very sublime dharmas if they do not copy etc. to: develop this deep perfection of wisdom, or if they cause obstacles to those who copy, etc. to: develop it

The Lord: So it is, Subhuti, so it is. Those people who will not copy out, etc to: wisely attend to this deep perfection of wisdom and who will cause obstacles to it being copied out, etc to: developed, they will be beset by Mara, they will have newly set out in the vehicle, they have planted no wholesome roots, have but tiny wholesome roots, have not done their duties under the Jinas of the past and have not been taken hold of by the good spiritual friends. Small, sluggish and limited will be their intelligence, and their thought will be unable to stride up into very sublime dharmas. But although these deeds of mara are bound to arise when this deep perfection of wisdom is being copied out, etc. to: is being developed, nevertheless is due to the buddhas might that often no deeds of mara and no obstacles arise to the study of this deep perfection and that in addition sons and daughters of good family can perfect the other 5 perfections, as well as the emptinesses, etc, to: the buddhadharmas and knowledge of all modes. Those buddhas and lords who abide in the 10 directions and demonstrate Dharma will make efforts on behalf of those sons and daughters of good family who copy out, etc. to: attend to this deep perfection of wisdom. And so will the irreversible bodhisattvas in the 10 directions, and they will bring help.
It is as with a woman who has many children 5 10 20 40 50 or 100, 1000, one hundred thousand. If se feels ill, they will all exert themselves so that their mother may not meet with any obstacles to her life, so that she may live long, so that no unpleasant touch may hit her body. For they feel that she is their genetrix and has given them their body and their life. They will therefore look well after their mother, protect her well, and hope that she will meet with no obstacle to her life.....
..... In this way the tathagatas bring this deep perfection of wisdom constantly and always to mind with their Buddha-eye. and why? Because they are aware that this deep perfection of wisdom is the genetrix of the tathagatas and their instructress in the cognition of all the buddhadharmas, and the maker(?) of the world. And the buddhas and lords who abide in all the 10 directions in countless world systems, they also constantly and always bring to mind just this deep perfection of wisdom with their Buddha-eye, and why? because this deep perfection of wisdom is the genetrix of the tathagatas and instructress in the cognition of the all-knowing. It is because of this that the tathagatas, motivated by gratitude, constantly and always bring this deep perfection of wisdom to mind with their Buddha-eye, and why? From it have come forth the tathagatas 6 perfections, 18 kinds of emptiness, etc, to: 18 buddhadharmas, 6 superknowledges, the knowledge of all modes of all buddhas, the countless and numberless buddhadharmas. From it have come forth the streamwinners, etc, to:the tathagatas, arhats, fully enlightened buddhas. All the tathagatas who have known, do know, and will know the supreme enlightenment, they all do so thanks to this deep perfection of wisdom. And those followers of the great vehicle who will copy out this deep perfection of wisdom etc, to: attend to it, they also will will all be brought to mind constantly and alway by the tathagatas with their Buddha-eye, and the tathagatas will constantly and always arrange shelter for them shelter, defense and protection, so that they may not fail to win the supreme enlightenment


The large sutra of perfect wisdom n. 700 sivua

olen lukenut/toistanut ääneen kirjan ainakin 10 kertaa
vaikuttavaa tekstiä, vielä parempaa on esim Longchenpan dzogchen tekstit, 2 tekstiä on yleisesti saatavana
The precious way of abiding
The precious treasury of scriptural transmission
erittäin terävän käännöksen Longchenpan tekstistä voi saada ilmaiseksi www.mountaindev.com
tarvitaan initaatio/lupa
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