Gypsies and Israelites
Revello Avraham
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As it's well known that many of the Lost Tribes settled in India, I want to suggest to include in your list the Gypsies, as they have many reasons to claim true Israelite background. This is well explained in the website http://web.tiscalinet.it/imninalu/english.htm, and I can add some information to support this, for instance, that many Gypsy groups (like the Gabor in Transylvania and many Gitanos in Spain) are by "coincidence" returning back to some Jewish consciuosness that got lost with time, like Shabbath, Kashrut and Brit Milah... Other Rom are following their way. There are many interesting details among Gypsies that suggest origin in some Israelite Tribes: for instance, among Sinti groups and many Rom, a respectful way to address a person is the word "Manush", that suggests "Manassheh" (French Sinti call themselves with this term). Gypsies in India are called "Lambadi" - any connection with "Lemba" or just a coincidence?
Another detail to remark: When was the Tribe of Shim'on lost? In Dibre haYamim 4:38-43, Ezra asserts they lived in Edom until his time, that means, after Yehudah came back from Babylon! In fact, Shim'on could have not joined the Northern Tribes and was in fact assimilated into Yehudah... The 10 Lost tribes are indeed 9, maybe adding some Levites of the Northern Kingdom, we have 10 again.
Those from Madras are only the Lambadi tribe of Gypsies. The ones that emigrated to the West were settled in Rajasthan (Rom) and Sindh (Sinti), the same area of the B'ney Yisrael of India. Lambadis may belong to the same migration as Jews of Cochin, who came from Yemen, as well as Lemba in Southern Africa came from Yemen. So, we have the same areas for both Israelites and Gypsies in India.
Another important fact is that Rom settled in Israel (except Domari, who acknowledge themselves as Arabs rather than Gypsies) are recorded as "Yehudim" in their ID, that is not granted to all Israeli citizens but only to Jews! One of the main Gypsy internet organizatios is as well settled in Israel. Even Domari of Jerusalem are leaving Islam for Christianity, coming closer to Israeli people than ever before.
http://www.kulanu.org/gypsies/gypsies.php
Revello Avraham
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As it's well known that many of the Lost Tribes settled in India, I want to suggest to include in your list the Gypsies, as they have many reasons to claim true Israelite background. This is well explained in the website http://web.tiscalinet.it/imninalu/english.htm, and I can add some information to support this, for instance, that many Gypsy groups (like the Gabor in Transylvania and many Gitanos in Spain) are by "coincidence" returning back to some Jewish consciuosness that got lost with time, like Shabbath, Kashrut and Brit Milah... Other Rom are following their way. There are many interesting details among Gypsies that suggest origin in some Israelite Tribes: for instance, among Sinti groups and many Rom, a respectful way to address a person is the word "Manush", that suggests "Manassheh" (French Sinti call themselves with this term). Gypsies in India are called "Lambadi" - any connection with "Lemba" or just a coincidence?
Another detail to remark: When was the Tribe of Shim'on lost? In Dibre haYamim 4:38-43, Ezra asserts they lived in Edom until his time, that means, after Yehudah came back from Babylon! In fact, Shim'on could have not joined the Northern Tribes and was in fact assimilated into Yehudah... The 10 Lost tribes are indeed 9, maybe adding some Levites of the Northern Kingdom, we have 10 again.
Those from Madras are only the Lambadi tribe of Gypsies. The ones that emigrated to the West were settled in Rajasthan (Rom) and Sindh (Sinti), the same area of the B'ney Yisrael of India. Lambadis may belong to the same migration as Jews of Cochin, who came from Yemen, as well as Lemba in Southern Africa came from Yemen. So, we have the same areas for both Israelites and Gypsies in India.
Another important fact is that Rom settled in Israel (except Domari, who acknowledge themselves as Arabs rather than Gypsies) are recorded as "Yehudim" in their ID, that is not granted to all Israeli citizens but only to Jews! One of the main Gypsy internet organizatios is as well settled in Israel. Even Domari of Jerusalem are leaving Islam for Christianity, coming closer to Israeli people than ever before.
http://www.kulanu.org/gypsies/gypsies.php
Vastaukset 2
Vanhimmat
http://www.kulanu.org/gypsies/aboutgypsies.php
Yes but No