sunni, shiia, vai suufi, entä me. muslimi, vai joku lahkoista

why shiaism is wrong way, the explanation is in Quran, may Allah lead them the right way. also why some "sunnis", have lost their path, its all in same Sura.
Quran, surat An-Nisa

4:44
Sahih International
Have you not seen those who were given a portion of the Scripture, purchasing error [in exchange for it] and wishing you would lose the way?
4:45
Sahih International
And Allah is most knowing of your enemies; and sufficient is Allah as an ally, and sufficient is Allah as a helper.
(ayah, 46. is about jews changing the sayings of Allah
- Shi’ism started with a Jewish man, who during the time of the Caliphate of Uthman ibn Affaan, converted to Islam and was called Abdullaah ibn Saba, but was better known as Abdullaah ibn As-Sawdaa.
-the jews have 12 Rabbis, who are in charge, the shia have 12 great imams who are in charge, and they say imam Mehdi will come, also christians say Isa alayhi salam will come, and they say Isa is God, as shia say Ali is God)
4:47
Sahih International
O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Muhammad], confirming that which is with you, before We obliterate faces and turn them toward their backs or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers. And ever is the decree of Allah accomplished.
4:48
Sahih International
Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.
4:49
Sahih International
Have you not seen those who claim themselves to be pure? Rather, Allah purifies whom He wills, and injustice is not done to them, [even] as much as a thread [inside a date seed].
4:50
Sahih International
Look how they invent about Allah untruth, and sufficient is that as a manifest sin.
4:51
Sahih International
Have you not seen those who were given a portion of the Scripture, who believe in superstition and false objects of worship and say about the disbelievers, "These are better guided than the believers as to the way"?
-shia believe in some superstition like jews do, they believe in false objects like the stone where you put your forehead to praying, also they prostrate for pictures, and they have these kind of idols like jews, or christians who have picture of angels and Isa, and Miriam in their churches)
4:52
Sahih International
Those are the ones whom Allah has cursed; and he whom Allah curses - never will you find for him a helper.
(read surat An-Nur, there is about lashing those who do zina, and also Allah has said in ayah 11-19 is about insulting wife of prophet Muhammad saws, Aisha radiallahu anhu, and the consecuenses)
4:53
Sahih International
Or have they a share of dominion? Then [if that were so], they would not give the people [even as much as] the speck on a date seed.
(the shia-ruling is the worst kind of, look at Iran, how believing people are afraid of imams and believers instead of Allah, because they have changed Islam into something terrible)
4:54
Sahih International
Or do they envy people for what Allah has given them of His bounty? But we had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom and conferred upon them a great kingdom.
(they are envying Saudi-Arabs, some of them hate Mecca, the center of Islam, and try to do terrorist attacks in there if they could. people of Ibrahim alayhi salam, is around Mecca, and the kingdom of Saudi is the most greatest, surat 14:35 And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham said, "My Lord, make this city [Makkah] secure and keep me and my sons away from worshipping idols.)

2:126
Sahih International
And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, make this a secure city and provide its people with fruits - whoever of them believes in Allah and the Last Day." [ Allah ] said. "And whoever disbelieves - I will grant him enjoyment for a little; then I will force him to the punishment of the Fire, and wretched is the destination."
(there is also rich Saudi-sunnis who are worst kind of people, they have all the money, and zukhruf, but they let their own people and muslims die in hunger for excample in the rest of Africa)
2:130
Sahih International
And who would be averse to the religion of Abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.
2:131
Sahih International
When his Lord said to him, "Submit", he said "I have submitted [in Islam] to the Lord of the worlds."
2:132
Sahih International
And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], "O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims."
so be muslims!)
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4:55
Sahih International
And some among them believed in it, and some among them were averse to it. And sufficient is Hell as a blaze.
(still there are some believers that believe in Islam, as muslims and followers of prophet salla Allahu alayhi wassallam, we shouldnt make sects. we shouldnt be Ahmadiyya, Shi'a, Sufism, Sunni. we should be all muslims, since prophets werent nothing else than muslims, and we should follow their excamples, and we should follow the teachings of prophet Muhammed, since Quran was told by him, may Allah bless prophets and sahabas as companies of Muhammad saws)

http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/shia_answering.htm

about the right path, the path of muslims is more in suratu Al-Imran

3:95
Sahih International
Say, " Allah has told the truth. So follow the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth; and he was not of the polytheists."
(religion of Abraham, was being muslims, not shia, sunni, suufi, and if you are muslim you follow prophets, and the last prophet is salla Allahu alayhi wassallam)
3:96
Sahih International
Indeed, the first House [of worship] established for mankind was that at Makkah - blessed and a guidance for the worlds.
3:97
Sahih International
In it are clear signs [such as] the standing place of Abraham. And whoever enters it shall be safe. And [due] to Allah from the people is a pilgrimage to the House - for whoever is able to find thereto a way. But whoever disbelieves - then indeed, Allah is free from need of the worlds.
3:98
Sahih International
Say, "O People of the Scripture, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while Allah is Witness over what you do?"
3:99
Sahih International
Say, "O People of the Scripture, why do you avert from the way of Allah those who believe, seeking to make it [seem] deviant, while you are witnesses [to the truth]? And Allah is not unaware of what you do."
3:100
Sahih International
O you who have believed, if you obey a party of those who were given the Scripture, they would turn you back, after your belief, [to being] unbelievers.
3:101
Sahih International
And how could you disbelieve while to you are being recited the verses of Allah and among you is His Messenger? And whoever holds firmly to Allah has [indeed] been guided to a straight path.
3:102
Sahih International
O you who have believed, fear Allah as He should be feared and do not die except as Muslims [in submission to Him].
(as muslims, not shia, not sunni, not suufi, not ahmadiaa, dont make sects)
3:103
Sahih International
And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided.
3:104
Sahih International
And let there be [arising] from you a nation inviting to [all that is] good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful.
3:105
Sahih International
And do not be like the ones who became divided and differed after the clear proofs had come to them. And those will have a great punishment.
3:106
Sahih International
On the Day [some] faces will turn white and [some] faces will turn black. As for those whose faces turn black, [to them it will be said], "Did you disbelieve after your belief? Then taste the punishment for what you used to reject."
about transgressing your limits in deen (belief) and secting
surat Al-Maidah

5:77
Sahih International
Say, "O People of the Scripture, do not exceed limits in your religion beyond the truth and do not follow the inclinations of a people who had gone astray before and misled many and have strayed from the soundness of the way."
5:78
Sahih International
Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed.
5:79
Sahih International
They used not to prevent one another from wrongdoing that they did. How wretched was that which they were doing.
5:80
Sahih International
You see many of them becoming allies of those who disbelieved. How wretched is that which they have put forth for themselves in that Allah has become angry with them, and in the punishment they will abide eternally.
5:81
Sahih International
And if they had believed in Allah and the Prophet and in what was revealed to him, they would not have taken them as allies; but many of them are defiantly disobedient.

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  • so follow what Allah have revealed through prophet Muhammad saws, and be muslims to Allah, and listen those who say this. since its the the most right path

    4:59
    Sahih International
    O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.

    4:60
    Sahih International
    Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray.
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    and if they dont believe,

    4:61
    Sahih International
    And when it is said to them, "Come to what Allah has revealed and to the Messenger," you see the hypocrites turning away from you in aversion.

    4:62
    Sahih International
    So how [will it be] when disaster strikes them because of what their hands have put forth and then they come to you swearing by Allah , "We intended nothing but good conduct and accommodation."

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    so follow what Allah have revealed through prophet Muhammad saws, and be muslims to Allah, and listen those who say this. since its the the most right path

    4:59
    Sahih International
    O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.

    4:60
    Sahih International
    Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray.
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    and if they dont believe,

    4:61
    Sahih International
    And when it is said to them, "Come to what Allah has revealed and to the Messenger," you see the hypocrites turning away from you in aversion.

    4:62
    Sahih International
    So how [will it be] when disaster strikes them because of what their hands have put forth and then they come to you swearing by Allah , "We intended nothing but good conduct and accommodation."

    4:80
    Sahih International
    He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian.

    4:81
    Sahih International
    And they say, "[We pledge] obedience." But when they leave you, a group of them spend the night determining to do other than what you say. But Allah records what they plan by night. So leave them alone and rely upon Allah . And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

    4:82
    Sahih International
    Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction.

    ameen

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    4:80
    Sahih International
    He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian.

    4:81
    Sahih International
    And they say, "[We pledge] obedience." But when they leave you, a group of them spend the night determining to do other than what you say. But Allah records what they plan by night. So leave them alone and rely upon Allah . And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

    4:82
    Sahih International
    Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction.

    ameen

    also I have noticed when shia marry someone, they have temporary marriages. and not only that, they dont give the "mahr" when they marry.... they are supposed to give it only if they divorce!

    4:127
    Sahih International
    And they request from you, [O Muhammad], a [legal] ruling concerning women. Say, " Allah gives you a ruling about them and [about] what has been recited to you in the Book concerning the orphan girls to whom you do NOT GIVE WHAT IS DECREED for them - and [yet] you desire to MARRY THEM - and concerning the oppressed among children and that you maintain for orphans [their rights] in justice." And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is ever Knowing of it.

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  • UPDATE_10228832 kirjoitti:

    also I have noticed when shia marry someone, they have temporary marriages. and not only that, they dont give the "mahr" when they marry.... they are supposed to give it only if they divorce!

    4:127
    Sahih International
    And they request from you, [O Muhammad], a [legal] ruling concerning women. Say, " Allah gives you a ruling about them and [about] what has been recited to you in the Book concerning the orphan girls to whom you do NOT GIVE WHAT IS DECREED for them - and [yet] you desire to MARRY THEM - and concerning the oppressed among children and that you maintain for orphans [their rights] in justice." And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is ever Knowing of it.

    It is useful to understand what an esteemed Islamic leader such as the Ayatollah teaches his followers. Here are some excerpts from “Tahrirolvasyleh” which Muslims probably don’t want you to know about Islam:

    A man can have intimate pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]

    ayah 4:127 "concerning the oppressed among children and that you maintain for orphans in JUSTICE!"

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    It is useful to understand what an esteemed Islamic leader such as the Ayatollah teaches his followers. Here are some excerpts from “Tahrirolvasyleh” which Muslims probably don’t want you to know about Islam:

    A man can have intimate pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]

    ayah 4:127 "concerning the oppressed among children and that you maintain for orphans in JUSTICE!"

    also jews are saying bad things about mother of Isa alayhi salam, and also shia are saying bad things about mother of Islam, wife of prophet salla Allahu alayhi wassallam, Aisha radiAllanhu anhu:

    4:156
    Sahih International
    And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander,

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Esran tai Nehemian kirjassa sanotaan Persian Kyyroksen määränneen, että JUMALAN TEMPPELI TULEE IKUISESTI KOOSTUMAAN KOLMESTA KERROKSESTA ISOJA KIVIÄ JA HIRSIKERROKSISTA (1-2).

Siksi monessa eri uskonnossa on KOLME pääsuuntausta ja 1-2 PIENEMPÄÄ suuntausta ja silti tuo rakenne luetaan yhdeksi ainoaksi temppeliksi.

En tiedä niistä kirjotuksista, jotka yllyttävät pedofiliaan, mutta salaisina sellaisia liikkuu varmasti myös kristittyjen piirissä. Alunperin tuo voisi perustua Gnostilaisuuteen. Mitä he puuhaavat pimeässä on häpeällistä sanoakin.

Itse katson, että Sunna, Shiia, Suufi, Ahmadiija ovat osa yhtä ja samaa temppeliä. Vaan on niin, että on eräs raamatun siunaus jonka mukaan islamin umman sisällä on toinen toisensa tönimistä veljesten kesken. Se ei ole mikään maailmaamullistava asia, jos veljekset tönivät ja riitelevät vähän.

Islam rapistuu, mutta joka sadan vuoden välein se uudistetaan Mujaddid persoonan ansiosta. Imaami Mahdi tulee olemaan seuraava Mujaddid.
Niin myös muut uskonnot rapistuvat lyhyessä tai pitkässä ajassa. Ja niitäkin pitää uudistaa aika ajoin. Esim. Hindulaisuutta 500 vuoden välein.

Kristinusko uudistuu mielestäni noin 300 vuoden välein. Islam on johtava uskonto, koska se uudistuu 100 vuoden välein.

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Tuota sen verran tuosta postaamisesta, että on sen verran pitkää tekstiä ja vielä englanniksi, että epäilen 98% lukijoista ei jaksa kahlata tekstejä läpi. Ja kai ne 2% on sitten niitä tunnollisia muslimeita jotka jaksavat sisäistää matskua.

Happy ending! :)

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  • Tätä palstaa seuraa enää ehkä noin 100 henkilöä, joten noin 2 luki Muhammadin copy-pasten ja hekin olivat tunnollisina muslimeina lukeneet samat jutut jo ennenkin.

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mhmd kirjoitti:

why shiaism is wrong way, the explanation is in Quran, may Allah lead them the right way. also why some "sunnis", have lost their path, its all in same Sura.
Quran, surat An-Nisa

4:44
Sahih International
Have you not seen those who were given a portion of the Scripture, purchasing error [in exchange for it] and wishing you would lose the way?
4:45
Sahih International
And Allah is most knowing of your enemies; and sufficient is Allah as an ally, and sufficient is Allah as a helper.
(ayah, 46. is about jews changing the sayings of Allah
- Shi’ism started with a Jewish man, who during the time of the Caliphate of Uthman ibn Affaan, converted to Islam and was called Abdullaah ibn Saba, but was better known as Abdullaah ibn As-Sawdaa.
-the jews have 12 Rabbis, who are in charge, the shia have 12 great imams who are in charge, and they say imam Mehdi will come, also christians say Isa alayhi salam will come, and they say Isa is God, as shia say Ali is God)
4:47
Sahih International
O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Muhammad], confirming that which is with you, before We obliterate faces and turn them toward their backs or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers. And ever is the decree of Allah accomplished.
4:48
Sahih International
Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.
4:49
Sahih International
Have you not seen those who claim themselves to be pure? Rather, Allah purifies whom He wills, and injustice is not done to them, [even] as much as a thread [inside a date seed].
4:50
Sahih International
Look how they invent about Allah untruth, and sufficient is that as a manifest sin.
4:51
Sahih International
Have you not seen those who were given a portion of the Scripture, who believe in superstition and false objects of worship and say about the disbelievers, "These are better guided than the believers as to the way"?
-shia believe in some superstition like jews do, they believe in false objects like the stone where you put your forehead to praying, also they prostrate for pictures, and they have these kind of idols like jews, or christians who have picture of angels and Isa, and Miriam in their churches)
4:52
Sahih International
Those are the ones whom Allah has cursed; and he whom Allah curses - never will you find for him a helper.
(read surat An-Nur, there is about lashing those who do zina, and also Allah has said in ayah 11-19 is about insulting wife of prophet Muhammad saws, Aisha radiallahu anhu, and the consecuenses)
4:53
Sahih International
Or have they a share of dominion? Then [if that were so], they would not give the people [even as much as] the speck on a date seed.
(the shia-ruling is the worst kind of, look at Iran, how believing people are afraid of imams and believers instead of Allah, because they have changed Islam into something terrible)
4:54
Sahih International
Or do they envy people for what Allah has given them of His bounty? But we had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom and conferred upon them a great kingdom.
(they are envying Saudi-Arabs, some of them hate Mecca, the center of Islam, and try to do terrorist attacks in there if they could. people of Ibrahim alayhi salam, is around Mecca, and the kingdom of Saudi is the most greatest, surat 14:35 And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham said, "My Lord, make this city [Makkah] secure and keep me and my sons away from worshipping idols.)

2:126
Sahih International
And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, make this a secure city and provide its people with fruits - whoever of them believes in Allah and the Last Day." [ Allah ] said. "And whoever disbelieves - I will grant him enjoyment for a little; then I will force him to the punishment of the Fire, and wretched is the destination."
(there is also rich Saudi-sunnis who are worst kind of people, they have all the money, and zukhruf, but they let their own people and muslims die in hunger for excample in the rest of Africa)
2:130
Sahih International
And who would be averse to the religion of Abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.
2:131
Sahih International
When his Lord said to him, "Submit", he said "I have submitted [in Islam] to the Lord of the worlds."
2:132
Sahih International
And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], "O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims."
so be muslims!)

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