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      LOT'S DAUGHTERS COMMIT INCEST WITH HIM !
      [Gen. 19:30]
      Lot went up out of Zo'ar and dwelt in the hills with his two daughters.
      And the first-born said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is
      not a man on earth to come to us after the manner of all the earth.
      COME LET US MAKE OUR FATHER DRINK WINE AND WE WILL LIE WITH HIM, that we
      may preserve offspring through our father. So they made their father drink
      wine that night; AND THE FIRST BORN WENT IN AND LAY WITH HER FATHER; HE
      DID NOT KNOW WHEN SHE LAY DOWN OR WHEN SHE AROSE.

      And on the next day, the first-born said to the younger "Behold, I lay
      last night with my father, let us make him drink wine tonight also; then
      you go in and lie with him that we may preserve offspring through our
      father.
      So they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger
      arose, and LAY WITH HIM; and he did not know when she lay down or when
      she arose. THUS BOTH THE DAUGHTERS OF LOT WERE WITH CHILD BY THEIR FATHER.

      JUDAH WITH HIS DAUGHTER-IN-LAW

      Judah fornicates with his daughter-in-law: Ta'-mar.
      [Gen. 38:15]
      When he saw her, he thought her to be a harlot, for she had covered
      her face. He went over to her at the road side and said "Come, LET ME
      COME INTO YOU" for he did not know that she was his daughter-in-law.
      She said, "What will you give me, that you may come into me?" He
      answered, "I will send you a kid from the flock." And she said "Will
      you send me a pledge till you send it?" He said, "What pledge shall I
      give you?" She replied "Your signal and your cord and your staff that
      is in your hand."

      So he gave them to her, and WENT INTO HER, and she conceived by him.
      About three months later, Judah was told, "Ta'-mar your daughter-in-
      law has played the harlot, and moreover SHE IS WITH CHILD BY HARLOTRY.

      DAVID WITH HIS NEIGHBOUR'S WIFE
      [2.Sam. 11:1]
      David arose from his couch and was walking upon the roof that he saw
      from the roof a WOMAN BATHING; and the woman was very beautiful, and
      David sent and enquired about the woman. And one said, "Is not that
      Bathshe'ba, the daughter of Eli'am, the wife of Uri'ah the Hittite?"

      So David send messengers and took her, and SHE CAME TO HIM AND HE
      LAY WITH HER.. Then she returned to her house; and she sent and told
      David, I am with child. David called her husband, and invited him,
      and ate in his presence and drank, so that he made him drunk. In the
      morning David wrote to Jo'ab, "Set Uri'ah in the forefront of the
      hardest fighting, and then draw back from him, that he may be struck
      down and die.
      When he died David sent and brought Uri'ah's wife to his house, and
      she became his wife.

      GOD PUNISHES DAVID
      [2.Sam. 12:10]
      The Lord said to David, "Because you despised me, and have taken the wife of Uri'ah the Hittite to be your wife.
      Thus say the Lord, "Behold, I will take your wives (He punished
      David through his daughter and son not his wife as you will see)
      before your eyes, and give them to your neighbour and he shall
      lie with your wives in the sight of this sun."

      DAVID'S SON WITH HIS SISTER
      [2.Sam. 13:1]
      Amnon the son of David fell in love with his sister Ta'-mar.
      "Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister Ta'-mar; for she was a virgin, and it seemed impossible
      to Amnon to do anything to her.
      Amnon had a friend who said to him, "Lie down on your bed and pretend to be ill, and when [your father] the king comes to see you, you say to him: let my sister Ta'-mar come and give bread to eat from her hand. David sent Ta'-mar to her brother and ordered her to feed her brother by her hand.
      Ta'-mar took the cakes she had made, and brought them into the chamber to Amnon, but when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her, and said to her, "Come, lie with me, my sister", she said, "No my brother, do not force me." But he would not listen to her; and being stronger than she, he forced her, and lay with her."

      GET FOR YOURSELF A HARLOT !!!
      [Hos. 1:2]
      When the Lord first spoke to Hose'a he said to him, "GO TAKE TO YOURSELF
      A WIFE OF HARLOTRY and have children of harlotry, for the land has
      committed great harlotry by forsaking the Lord."

      [Gen. 35:22]
      Rueben the son of Jacob lay with Bilhah his father's concubine.

      [Gen. 49:4]
      His father blamed him and said, "Because you went up to your father's
      bed, then you defiled it, you went up to my couch.

      THE SEX LITERATURE IN THE BIBLE !
      ---------------------------------
      [Prov. 7:7]
      I have seen among the simple, I have perceived among the youth, a young
      man without sense, passing along the street near her corner taking the
      road to her house in the twilight, in the evening at the time of the
      night and darkness.
      And lo, a woman meets him, dressed as a harlot, wily of heart. She is
      loud and wayward. Now in the street, now in the market, and at every
      corner she lies in wait.

      SHE SEIZES HIM AND KISSES HIM, and with impudent face she says to him:
      I have come to meet you, to seek you eagerly, and I have found you.

      I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. COME, LET US
      TAKE OUR FILL OF LOVE TILL THE MORNING, LET US DELIGHT OURSELVES WITH
      LOVE. FOR MY HUSBAND IS NOT AT HOME, HE HAS GONE ON A LONG JOURNEY.
      With much seductive speech she persuades him, with her smooth talk she
      compels him. All at once he follows her, as an ox goes to the slaughter.

      WOMAN'S BREASTS IN THE BIBLE !
      ------------------------------
      [Songs. 1:13]
      My beloved is to me a bag of myrrh, that LIES BETWEEN MY BREASTS. Behold,
      you are beautiful, my beloved, truly lovely. Our bed is green.(In R.S.V.
      our couch)

      [Song. 3:1]
      Upon my bed night I sought him whom my soul loves but not found him.
      "When I found him whom my soul loves, I HELD HIM, and would not let him
      go until I had brought him into my mother's house, and into the CHAMBER OF
      HER THAT CONCEIVED ME. I adjure you, o daughters of Jerusalem, by the
      gazelles or the hinds of the field, that you steer not up nor awaken love
      until it pleases.

      THE SONGS OF SOLOMON - A BOOK OF FLIRTATION
      -------------------------------------------
      [Songs. 4:1]
      Behold you are beautiful my love. YOUR LIPS are like a scarlet thread your
      cheeks are like halves of a pomegranate, your neck like the tower of David.
      YOUR TWO BREASTS are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. How sweet is your
      love my sister, my bride, how much better is your love than wine. How graceful
      are your feet in sandals, O queenly maiden!
      YOUR ROUNDED THIGHS are like jewels, the work of a master hand. YOUR NAVEL is
      rounded bowl that never lacks mix wine. YOUR BELLY is heap of wheat, encircled
      with lilies. YOUR TWO BREASTS are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle.

      You are stature (in R.S.V. stately) as a palm tree, and your breasts are like
      its clusters.
      I say: I will go up (in R.S.V. climb) the tree, and lay hold of its branches.
      Oh, may YOUR BREASTS be like clusters of the vine.

      [Song. 8:8]
      We have a little sister, and she has no breasts. What shall we do for our
      sister on the day when is spoken for? I was a wall, and MY BREASTS WERE LIKE
      TOWERS.

      GOD MAKES PEOPLE FALL IN ADULTERY
      ---------------------------------
      [Amos 7:16]
      God said to Am-a-zi'ah "You say, prophesy not against Israel and drop not
      your word against the house of Isaac?
      Thus the Lord says: YOUR WIFE SHALL BE AN HARLOT in the city and your sons
      and your daughters shall fall by the sword."

      [Jer. 8:9]
      They have rejected the word of the Lord. Therefore I WILL GIVE THEIR WIVES
      UNTO OTHERS.

      [Isiah 3:16]
      The Lord says "Because the daughters of Zion are haughty and walk with
      stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and
      making a tinkling with their feet: Therefore the Lord will smite with a
      scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and THE LORD WILL
      DISCOVER THEIR SECRET PARTS.

      [Jer. 13:22]
      "For the greatness of your iniquity are your skirts discovered, AND YOUR
      HEELS MADE BARE.
      I will discover your skirts upon your face, that your shame may appear I
      have seen your adulteries, and your neighings the lewdness of your whoredoms."

      [Nah 3:4]
      Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the well favoured harlot the
      mistress of witchcrafts, and the seller nations through her whoredoms..
      I will discover your skirts upon your face, and I WILL SHOW THE NATIONS
      YOUR NAKEDNESS and the kingdoms your shame.

      [hos 2:2]
      God said, "Plead with your mother, plead: For she is not my wife neither I am
      her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and
      her adulteries from BETWEEN HER BREASTS, LEST I STRIP HER NAKED... I will not
      have mercy upon her children, for they be the children of whoredoms. And now
      will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers."

    • suomalainen muslimi

      Amina-miksi kysyt tuollaista?Oletko lukenut shiiojen
      oppeja?
      Islam, sunni, EI hyväksy tuollaista!Se on erittäin islamin vastaista.Jos haluatte tietää islamista lukekaa sunnien periaatteita, ne on totuudenmukaisia.

      • ???

        mikä se juttu on shiiojen ja sunnien välillä?
        miksi eivät tule toimeen keskenään?
        sorry jos tyhmiä kyselen mutta olisi mukava
        jos joku kerkiäis vastaamaan.


      • .....

      • ???

      • Jeesus II
        ??? kirjoitti:

        uh ja huh.
        pitkiä kijoituksia joista paljon menee
        näin maallikolta yli hilseen.
        nooh laitoin nuot sivut muistiin.
        luen heti ko kerkiän.
        äkkiä nopeesti että shiiat on jotenki
        "off shoot" populaa "mais stream" muslimeista?

        love
        ateisti matti

        Itse olen ymmärtänyt, että shiojen mukaan Muhammedin serkku Ali valittiin jatkamaann hänen työtään, ja taas sunnien mukaan mitään tällaista sopimusta ei ollut ja Ali on siksi väärä profeetta ja shiiat vääräuskoisia.

        Terveiden ihmisten mielestä tällaisella ei tietenkään ole mitään merkitystä, mutta muslimien mielestä se näyttää olevan mitä mainioin syy tappaa ihmisiä, kuten tietysti lähes mikä tahansa muukin asia.


      • Jeronbeam
        Jeesus II kirjoitti:

        Itse olen ymmärtänyt, että shiojen mukaan Muhammedin serkku Ali valittiin jatkamaann hänen työtään, ja taas sunnien mukaan mitään tällaista sopimusta ei ollut ja Ali on siksi väärä profeetta ja shiiat vääräuskoisia.

        Terveiden ihmisten mielestä tällaisella ei tietenkään ole mitään merkitystä, mutta muslimien mielestä se näyttää olevan mitä mainioin syy tappaa ihmisiä, kuten tietysti lähes mikä tahansa muukin asia.

        Tähän voisi kenties kommentoida,
        että mitä ummaa tämä oikein onkaan.


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