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Vanhimmat

"Urheilullinen, 3,2-litraisella moottorilla varustettu nelivetoinen henkilöauto romuttui törmätessään vasen kylki edelle ojanpenkkaan ja puihin."

Audilta löytyy kyllä nelivetoa ja 3.2-litraista konetta, mutta urheilullista autoa ei ole vielä taidettu tuolla keulamerkillä tehdä? Taisi olla AR 159 Q4?

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  • Urheilullisuus oli toimittajan kynästä.

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  • edes ole 3,2-litran moottoria. Suurin on 2,5-litrainen. Tämä on varma tieto.

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  • Pohjoismaiden urheilullisten autojen testikin. Ajettavuudesta tuli melkoisen hyvät arvosanat. Muut saivat sentään yhteensä enemmän pisteitä kuin Audi.

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  • meni Audilta kirjoitti:

    Pohjoismaiden urheilullisten autojen testikin. Ajettavuudesta tuli melkoisen hyvät arvosanat. Muut saivat sentään yhteensä enemmän pisteitä kuin Audi.

    But it was the handling that disappointed us the most. Absolutely wonderful up to about eight-tenths – the car hanging on superbly on good or bad surfaces alike – the Audi feels ponderously nose-heavy when you go that extra step. Despite the standard stability control, the S4 doesn’t do anything but understeer once the grip limits have been breached. And understeer a surprising amount, too. There is little throttle control – the chassis is as wooden as the steering - and all that you can do is reduce the throttle opening to allow front-end grip to be re-established.

    Audi S4 – AutoSpeed

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    But throw a few tight turns and some committed cornering into the equation and the Cabriolet comes over all whale-like. The steering is typically Audi - stodgy and lifeless - and the chassis has only one party trick; terminal understeer.

    Audi A4 Cabriolet V6 – Evo

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    An experienced driver will find typical Audi understeer at the limit.

    Straight Six.com – Audi S4 Cabriolet

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    Keen drivers will be disappointed by the lifeless steering.

    What Car? – Audi A6

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    The Audi is a letdown with its lifeless steering and excessive understeer at the limit. The A8L does not match the Maserati's level of roadholding, nor is it as entertaining.

    Automobile Magazine – Audi A8L

    ---

    The Audi TT has never quite hit the spot. It's quick, grippy and has a chunky, high-quality appeal, but the heavy, lifeless steering, understeery balance and effective but charisma-free 1.8-litre turbocharged engine have always marked it down as an also-ran for those who put dynamics ahead of prestige. Even the more sonorous 3.2 V6 TT doesn't quite live up to the promise of its billing as a compact, driver-focused, 250bhp, four-wheel-drive coupe.

    evo – Audi TT

    ---

    I've driven fast Audis before, and I've always been impressed by the amount of grunt available, and the way it's so easy to reach license-threatening speeds.

    But I've also found as drivers' cars, they usually fall wide of the mark with lifeless steering and lacking the involvement you get with the BMW M3.

    AutoTrader - Audi RS4

    ---

    Unfortunately, all of these are slightly blunted by Audi’s fabulously precise but lifeless steering.

    While it weighs up nicely going into corners and feels really sharp, it doesn’t give you a clue about how much grip you’ve got left.

    Star Motoring – Audi A3

    ---

    however the Audi features quattro four-wheel-drive - making it a grippy contender. That doesn’t translate to the most rewarding drive here though, for while the Audi is undoubtedly swift and accomplished, it all feels a bit detached and clinical on the road.

    MSN cars – Audi A3

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    Autocar:

    Should I buy one?

    The S5’s case takes a bit of a dive when it comes to money. Nice although it is, it’s going to have serious difficulty justifying itself next to the considerably cheaper BMW 335i Coupe, which is almost as fast, far more practical and still better to drive.
    Buyers looking for value will therefore have to cast their eyes further down the A5 range; those looking for the best driving coupe of this size, on the other hand, need look no further than the alternative offered by Audi's old Munich rival.

    ---

    4 Car from channel 4:

    Assets
    Quality and solidity, sumptuous cabin, big boot, gutsy 3.0 TDI engine, effective Multitronic transmission.

    Drawbacks
    Feels nose heavy despite new chassis design, unresolved styling, poor rear-seat room.

    Verdict
    Lacks a clear personality. Competent in many ways but could have been so much better. The 3.0 TDI Quattro is the best version.

    ---

    TIMES /S5 Review:

    To the traditional constituency of Audi fashionistas I imagine it will prove to be a very appealing product.

    But what I cannot see it doing is persuading those to whom driving pleasure matters very much to forsake their BMWs for it. A 335i coupé is perhaps a little slower, but only a fool presumes that speed and fun are always the same.

    ---


    TOP GEAR:

    And so the A5 is indeed a good drive.
    But it lacks the sparkle that all these smiling men should have given it.
    Design first: yes, there are some great details (get those magical LED running lights, like luminous mascara). But it looks like it's sagging in the middle, and the big ol' Audi grille still doesn't do it for me.
    Engines: yup, mark those up to a win. The V6 feels like has deeper lungs than a BMW three-litre, and it's a lot smoother than Merc's V6. The V6 diesel is a bit of a triumph too.
    And the chassis has nice accurate new steering. But all-new layout or not, the A5 corners like an old-school Audi. Gentle but unavoidable understeer, little sense of fun, no tweakability at the limit. Audi keeps telling us they make sporty cars, but in the chassis department, they don't really. Fast, easy to drive hard, but not inspiring.
    So put Walter's Latin emotion on hold. This is still a bit of a po-faced car.

    ---

    www.carenthusisast.com

    Unfortunately the TT's steering is lacking in any real feel, in an attempt to isolate feedback no doubt, but it is well weighted. Driven hard, the TT is a good companion, with good body and wheel control, and it is not too uncomfortable either. The structure didn't feel as rigid as in the Nissan 350Z (though that car has a rear strut brace where passengers might sit), and the TT certainly doesn't provide the same pure driving experience a rear-wheel drive car can.

    ---

    Times online / A6

    Even with a 4.2 litre 450bhp twin-turbo V8 it can’t match more charismatic offerings from BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes. But don’t dismiss the Audi, being bland is not the same as being bad. The A6 is not a bad car.

    Putting a 4.2 litre V8 in a car this size should be a recipe for fun but the extra weight and the lifeless steering conspire to produce a car that is less than the sum of its parts.

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  • .evo. kirjoitti:

    But it was the handling that disappointed us the most. Absolutely wonderful up to about eight-tenths – the car hanging on superbly on good or bad surfaces alike – the Audi feels ponderously nose-heavy when you go that extra step. Despite the standard stability control, the S4 doesn’t do anything but understeer once the grip limits have been breached. And understeer a surprising amount, too. There is little throttle control – the chassis is as wooden as the steering - and all that you can do is reduce the throttle opening to allow front-end grip to be re-established.

    Audi S4 – AutoSpeed

    ---

    But throw a few tight turns and some committed cornering into the equation and the Cabriolet comes over all whale-like. The steering is typically Audi - stodgy and lifeless - and the chassis has only one party trick; terminal understeer.

    Audi A4 Cabriolet V6 – Evo

    ---

    An experienced driver will find typical Audi understeer at the limit.

    Straight Six.com – Audi S4 Cabriolet

    ---

    Keen drivers will be disappointed by the lifeless steering.

    What Car? – Audi A6

    ---

    The Audi is a letdown with its lifeless steering and excessive understeer at the limit. The A8L does not match the Maserati's level of roadholding, nor is it as entertaining.

    Automobile Magazine – Audi A8L

    ---

    The Audi TT has never quite hit the spot. It's quick, grippy and has a chunky, high-quality appeal, but the heavy, lifeless steering, understeery balance and effective but charisma-free 1.8-litre turbocharged engine have always marked it down as an also-ran for those who put dynamics ahead of prestige. Even the more sonorous 3.2 V6 TT doesn't quite live up to the promise of its billing as a compact, driver-focused, 250bhp, four-wheel-drive coupe.

    evo – Audi TT

    ---

    I've driven fast Audis before, and I've always been impressed by the amount of grunt available, and the way it's so easy to reach license-threatening speeds.

    But I've also found as drivers' cars, they usually fall wide of the mark with lifeless steering and lacking the involvement you get with the BMW M3.

    AutoTrader - Audi RS4

    ---

    Unfortunately, all of these are slightly blunted by Audi’s fabulously precise but lifeless steering.

    While it weighs up nicely going into corners and feels really sharp, it doesn’t give you a clue about how much grip you’ve got left.

    Star Motoring – Audi A3

    ---

    however the Audi features quattro four-wheel-drive - making it a grippy contender. That doesn’t translate to the most rewarding drive here though, for while the Audi is undoubtedly swift and accomplished, it all feels a bit detached and clinical on the road.

    MSN cars – Audi A3

    ---

    Autocar:

    Should I buy one?

    The S5’s case takes a bit of a dive when it comes to money. Nice although it is, it’s going to have serious difficulty justifying itself next to the considerably cheaper BMW 335i Coupe, which is almost as fast, far more practical and still better to drive.
    Buyers looking for value will therefore have to cast their eyes further down the A5 range; those looking for the best driving coupe of this size, on the other hand, need look no further than the alternative offered by Audi's old Munich rival.

    ---

    4 Car from channel 4:

    Assets
    Quality and solidity, sumptuous cabin, big boot, gutsy 3.0 TDI engine, effective Multitronic transmission.

    Drawbacks
    Feels nose heavy despite new chassis design, unresolved styling, poor rear-seat room.

    Verdict
    Lacks a clear personality. Competent in many ways but could have been so much better. The 3.0 TDI Quattro is the best version.

    ---

    TIMES /S5 Review:

    To the traditional constituency of Audi fashionistas I imagine it will prove to be a very appealing product.

    But what I cannot see it doing is persuading those to whom driving pleasure matters very much to forsake their BMWs for it. A 335i coupé is perhaps a little slower, but only a fool presumes that speed and fun are always the same.

    ---


    TOP GEAR:

    And so the A5 is indeed a good drive.
    But it lacks the sparkle that all these smiling men should have given it.
    Design first: yes, there are some great details (get those magical LED running lights, like luminous mascara). But it looks like it's sagging in the middle, and the big ol' Audi grille still doesn't do it for me.
    Engines: yup, mark those up to a win. The V6 feels like has deeper lungs than a BMW three-litre, and it's a lot smoother than Merc's V6. The V6 diesel is a bit of a triumph too.
    And the chassis has nice accurate new steering. But all-new layout or not, the A5 corners like an old-school Audi. Gentle but unavoidable understeer, little sense of fun, no tweakability at the limit. Audi keeps telling us they make sporty cars, but in the chassis department, they don't really. Fast, easy to drive hard, but not inspiring.
    So put Walter's Latin emotion on hold. This is still a bit of a po-faced car.

    ---

    www.carenthusisast.com

    Unfortunately the TT's steering is lacking in any real feel, in an attempt to isolate feedback no doubt, but it is well weighted. Driven hard, the TT is a good companion, with good body and wheel control, and it is not too uncomfortable either. The structure didn't feel as rigid as in the Nissan 350Z (though that car has a rear strut brace where passengers might sit), and the TT certainly doesn't provide the same pure driving experience a rear-wheel drive car can.

    ---

    Times online / A6

    Even with a 4.2 litre 450bhp twin-turbo V8 it can’t match more charismatic offerings from BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes. But don’t dismiss the Audi, being bland is not the same as being bad. The A6 is not a bad car.

    Putting a 4.2 litre V8 in a car this size should be a recipe for fun but the extra weight and the lifeless steering conspire to produce a car that is less than the sum of its parts.

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Tuollaisat jälkeä syntyy millä merkillä tahansa jos kuskilla on vähemmän järkeä kuin autolla.

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ainoastaan nelivetona. Etuvetoisena se ei pysty kilpailemaan muiden premium merkkien kanssa.Vanha totuushan on että yli 200hv etuvetoisessa autossa on jo liikaa.Auto vain puskee ja syö renkaita.

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Tällaista jälkeä syntyy kun ajetaan holtitonta ylinopeutta yleisillä teillä. Kokemattomuudesta tuskin oli kyse tämän kuljettajan kohdalla. Tehokas kone ja neliveto ovat varmasti antaneet aiheetonta turvallisuuden tunnetta. Lopputulos on järkyttävä.

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