apua ms excelin käyttöön

Elikkä jos on tämmöinen tehtävänanto niin mitenkä ja millälailla ton sais tehtyä mahdollisimman yksinkertaisesti ja helpoiten?

Geometrinen jono voi olla vaikka seuraavanlainen:
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, ... eli jonon seuraava termi saadaan kertomalla edellinen kahdella. Tee Excel-taulukko, johon tulee kyseisen jonon 200 ensimmäistä termia. Laske lisäksi näiden summa johonkin soluun.
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Vanhimmat

eli ihan mahdotonta.
Tuollainen sarja kasvaa niin nopeasti että jo
muutaman kymmenen termin jälkeen mitkään
maailmankaikeuden numeromäärät eivät riitä.
Eivät Excelissäkään.

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  • keksimisestä. Siinä ei laskettu kuin 64 ensimmäistä.
    Ihastuneena shakkipelistä, niin kerrotaan, Intian muinainen hallitsija kehotti pelin keksijää itse ehdottamaan palkkionsa. Tämä pyysi muutamia vehnänjyviä, yhden jyvän pelilaudan ensimmäisestä ruudusta, kaksi toisesta, neljä kolmannesta, kahdeksan neljännestä ja niin edespäin aina kaksinkertaisen määrän seuraavasta ruudusta pelilaudan viimeiseen eli kuudenteenkymmenenteenneljänteen ruutuun saakka. Hallitsija ilomielin lupasi täyttää näin kohtuullisen pyynnön. Mutta kun ryhdyttiin laskemaan, paljonko vehnää pyynnön täyttämiseksi tarvittiin, havaittiin, että kaikki maailman pellot eivät vuosisatojenkaan kuluessa kykenisi tuottamaan sellaista määrää. Se oli viljavuori, jota ei tämä kansa ole nähnyt eikä tule koskaan näkemään. Yli 1000 kuutiokilometriä.
    Mitenkähän tuon 200 kanssa kävisi?

    Äänestä

  • Kirjoitin soluun A1 1
    ja soluun A2 kaava =A1*2
    vedin sen soluun A200 asti.
    Kyllä näyttäis Excelissä numeroita riittävän

    1
    2
    4
    8
    16
    32
    64
    128
    256
    512
    1024
    2048
    4096
    8192
    16384
    32768
    65536
    131072
    262144
    524288
    1048576
    2097152
    4194304
    8388608
    16777216
    33554432
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    Äänestä

  • paavali50 kirjoitti:

    Kirjoitin soluun A1 1
    ja soluun A2 kaava =A1*2
    vedin sen soluun A200 asti.
    Kyllä näyttäis Excelissä numeroita riittävän

    1
    2
    4
    8
    16
    32
    64
    128
    256
    512
    1024
    2048
    4096
    8192
    16384
    32768
    65536
    131072
    262144
    524288
    1048576
    2097152
    4194304
    8388608
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    muskelit.

    "Kyllä näyttäis Excelissä numeroita riittävän"

    Ei. Merkkasin kohdan jossa se luovutti ja täyttää
    hännät vaan nollilla

    1
    2
    4
    8
    16
    32
    64
    128
    256
    512
    1024
    2048
    4096
    8192
    16384
    32768
    65536
    131072
    262144
    524288
    1048576
    2097152
    4194304
    8388608
    16777216
    33554432
    67108864
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    Äänestä

  • riitä ecxelin kirjoitti:

    muskelit.

    "Kyllä näyttäis Excelissä numeroita riittävän"

    Ei. Merkkasin kohdan jossa se luovutti ja täyttää
    hännät vaan nollilla

    1
    2
    4
    8
    16
    32
    64
    128
    256
    512
    1024
    2048
    4096
    8192
    16384
    32768
    65536
    131072
    262144
    524288
    1048576
    2097152
    4194304
    8388608
    16777216
    33554432
    67108864
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    Niinpä näkyy tekevän. Jossain biljoonan kohdalla (1000000000000)Excel rupeaa tekemään luvuista exponenttilukuja, vai mitä ne nyt mahtaa oikealta nimeltä ollakaan(1,09951E 12).
    Siinä vaiheessa loppuu myös häntien laskeminen, ja tulee pelkkiä nollia tilalle.
    Alkuperäiselle kysyjälle vielä sen verran että kahdessadas luku on noin.
    803469022129495000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
    ja yhteissumma noin
    1606938044258990000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    Äänestä

excel käyttää IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers)standardia numeroiden varastoimiseen ja sen tarkkuus on 15 numeroa ja sen jälkeiset luvut pyöristetään. Ainoastaan tekstinä voit näyttää isompia lukuja.

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ei osaa.. kirjoitti:

Elikkä jos on tämmöinen tehtävänanto niin mitenkä ja millälailla ton sais tehtyä mahdollisimman yksinkertaisesti ja helpoiten?

Geometrinen jono voi olla vaikka seuraavanlainen:
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, ... eli jonon seuraava termi saadaan kertomalla edellinen kahdella. Tee Excel-taulukko, johon tulee kyseisen jonon 200 ensimmäistä termia. Laske lisäksi näiden summa johonkin soluun.

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