Kalkaros on vampyyri.
Ei siis mikään tavallinen sterotyyppi vaan JKR:n vampyyrityyppi!
Tässä ois teorioita ososta: http://www.geocities.com/severusnapefc/vampiretheory.htm
1) There are many references to him as a bat.
In book 1 he's described as, "An overgrown bat", in Book 4 Ron says, "Unless he's a bat, I don't see how he'd get down there…" etc. Why are we often chosen to associate Snape with a bat? I doubt it's because JKR's ran out of similes to describe our dear potions master. His clothes are batlike, as are the constant descriptions of him.
Voi olla... ehkä lepakkovihjaisut ovat juuri niitä VIHJEITÄ! Tosin en ole varma tästä... Miksi vampyyrit liitetään lepakoihin?
2) In book 1, Rumour was that Snape met a Vampire in Romania, who scared him out of his wits. Can this be symbolic to Snape threatening Quirrel? What if this tale was true and he was threatened by a vampire. Except of course he used this as an excuse to cover up his Voldie link.
Jep. Tapasi vampyyrin. Siitähän voi seurata vaikka mitä...
Orave... Se valkosipulin haju luokassa, hirveä hermostuneisuus pelkoa Kalkarosta kohtaa... Ja Orave pelkäsi vampyyria...
3) He's VERY intuitive. Vampires are meant to be so. They're often associated with knowing what you feel and almost reading you mind...This is a very Snapeque characteristic. There are many different types of vampires and intuitive senses are certainly a characteristic which is commonly shared between them.
No jaa...
4) He looks like one. Pure and Simple. Just look at his clothes. His black cloak, his hollow eyes, pale skin, his sex appeal… It's all there… His thiness, his gaunt cheeks, his hypnotic presence, his ability to captivate a class effortlessly… Vampires are often associated with black cloaks…and his cloak seems to be an important feature to his appearance. Even things such as being different and the outsider. Lonesome and solitairy...
Kyllä! Vampyyrimainen pukeutuminen ja ulkonäkö!
5) This is a BIGGIE!!! In Book 3, Snape set his essay on werewolves, so people would be able to discover he was a werewolf. Lupin set a Vampire essay directly afterwards. Not just an essay or a piece of homework…but a vampire essay. Coincidentally, the moment Neville and Harry are talking about the vampire essay, Snape looms up behind them and interrupts their little conversation. Lupin also made the effort to purposely mention the Vampire essay in front of Snape (when he was telling off Harry for the map). Could this be in retaliation to the Werewolf essay..? I doubt JKR did it for no reason...*grins*
Niin niin... tätäpä olen pohtinutkin kuoliaaksi asti. Kalkaros kirjoitutti siis esseen ihmissusista, että joku tajuaisi, mikä Lupin on ja vastapainoksi Lupin kirjoitutti esseen vampyyreista... Well, well... Yhteensattumaa? No way!
6) Vampires are often associated with the Dark Arts. Snape apparently knew quite a lot about them. Why was Snape so into the dark arts in school? Perhaps this caused him to become a vampire, or was the result of it.
Voi olla. Tai sitten täytyy ottaa huomioon se, että Kalkaros oli kuolonsyöjä... Hän siis TIETÄÄ niistä (pimeyden jutuista), mutta miksei vampyyritkin voisi siihen liittyä...?
7) JKR is fond of using names as tip-offs to character's true identities (Lupin the werewolf, Riddle the secret Lord Voldemort, etc.). Snape, while sounding a lot like Snake (any Voldie conspiracy theorists out there? and a Snake is Slytherin's sign which he is Head of) also sounds a lot like Nape, a part of the neck.
Eh... tämä voi olla kyllä kaukaa haettua... Tottahan on, että JKR käyttää hirveesti Nomen est omen - juttuja (kts. http://www.kotiposti.net/htakala/sieppi/nimet.htm ), mutta että kaulan osa... okei...
8) He's not often depicted as enjoying eating normal food. JKR makes a special point of introducing us to vampires in her world when she shows us the unusual blood-flavored lollipops in the sweet shop. At the very least, given her predilection for logical storytelling, this shows that a vampire will at some time be important in the story. And no one, so far, would make a better vampire than Snape.
Niin, vampyyreillekin on herkkuja =) Joten miksi he eivät voisi syödä jotain muutakin (veren lisäksi) JKR:n maailmassa?
Niin ja Lupinillekinhan oli jotain taikajuomaa, joka estää häntä muuttumasta ihmissudeksi, joten mikesei Kalkaroskin voisi tehdä samantapaista itselleen?
9) He doesn't go out in the light much and lives in the dank dungeons.
Jep, tyrmissä paljon. Ehkä liika aurinko on haitallista? Ehkä se ei vain miellytä?
10) He would be even more likely to hate Lupin if he were already ashamed of being a vampire himself. That is, the "we often hate what we cannot accept about ourselves" thing.
Joo...Mutta miten tämä tähän liittyy?
11) This would also be a good reason for Snape to hate Lockhart (aside from his general smarminess and stupidity)--as the man built his reputation as a monster-hunter.
Jees jees! Niinhän se Lochart metsästi...mukamas...Joten miksei Kalkaros voisi olla vihainen 'lajitovereidensa' takia? Toisaalta Kalkaros ei tunnu pitävän kovin monesta muustakaan tyypistä...
12) Alan Rickman played Snape in a very vampiresque and bat-like manner. He places each hand on opposite shoulders to cross his chest. JKR told Rickman a bit of detail about him. If she told him that he was a vampire, he certainly used the detail well. The arms crossed upon his chest, symbolises death, often we picture dead people or vampires in coffins with those arns crossed upon their chest. Bats also hang upside down with those arm movements.
In the Invisibility cloak scene when Harry is in the invisibilty cloak, Snape does not need any vision to sense Harry's direction and presence. This sensed from only a few breaths. It is highly intuitive if you happen to be threatening a man at the same time!
Niin, Rickmanhan voi tietää...Ja se näkymättömyysviitta... Hyvät aistit, kuten vampyyrilla...
She also keeps on mentioning vampires in the story, but as of yet, we have not met an open one. We've met werewolves, giants, trolls, dragons…But we haven't yet met a vampire ;)
There's also talk about him being half vampire, which is quite fitting also, if not more likely. Generally Half Vampires can go out in sunlight, eat etc. Half Vampire does just as well as vampire.
Niin, vampyyrit mainitaan kyllä uudelleen ja uudelleen... Vinkkejä, vinkkejä... ja mehän olemme jo tavanneet vaikka mitä olentoja, missä viipyy vampyyri?
Tämä puolivampyyrijuttu mua mietityttää kans. Ehkä Snape onkin vain puolivampyyri? Se selittäisi paljon!
Immediately someone says in retaliation: But how can he be a Vampire? We've seen him outside!
Not ALL vampires are the same. The daylight beaten, blood-sucking vampire is a stereotype.There are many different types. Anyway, he's the Potions Master, it wouldn't be surprising if he could whip up a potion or two to help him with difficulties. Another theory is that the reason why he has greasy hair and sallow skin is because he rubs ointment on himself to stop him from burning in the sun. As Potions Master, he could do a darn good job disguising/controlling his vampiric nature. Then again, perhaps his skill at potions is the result of his trying to research a cure? Not all wizards are up to making concoctions such as the Wolfsbane potion. Perhaps the reason why Snape is so skilled at making potions such as that, is because he is used to making them, except for himself.
Tästähän mä puhuin jo... juomia itselleen... ja haluan sanoa tästä sterotyypistä lisää, ettei kohta joku valita ettei Kalkaros voi olla vampyyri kun se tekee sitä ja sitä eikä tee sitä ja sitä ja päläpälä... Eihän kaikki vampyyrit ole samanlaisia! Avarakatseisuutta, kiitos!
Ohhoh! Tässähän alkaa olemaan niin paljon todisteita, että uskon kohta itsekin!
Mielipiteitä?
Ei siis mikään tavallinen sterotyyppi vaan JKR:n vampyyrityyppi!
Tässä ois teorioita ososta: http://www.geocities.com/severusnapefc/vampiretheory.htm
1) There are many references to him as a bat.
In book 1 he's described as, "An overgrown bat", in Book 4 Ron says, "Unless he's a bat, I don't see how he'd get down there…" etc. Why are we often chosen to associate Snape with a bat? I doubt it's because JKR's ran out of similes to describe our dear potions master. His clothes are batlike, as are the constant descriptions of him.
Voi olla... ehkä lepakkovihjaisut ovat juuri niitä VIHJEITÄ! Tosin en ole varma tästä... Miksi vampyyrit liitetään lepakoihin?
2) In book 1, Rumour was that Snape met a Vampire in Romania, who scared him out of his wits. Can this be symbolic to Snape threatening Quirrel? What if this tale was true and he was threatened by a vampire. Except of course he used this as an excuse to cover up his Voldie link.
Jep. Tapasi vampyyrin. Siitähän voi seurata vaikka mitä...
Orave... Se valkosipulin haju luokassa, hirveä hermostuneisuus pelkoa Kalkarosta kohtaa... Ja Orave pelkäsi vampyyria...
3) He's VERY intuitive. Vampires are meant to be so. They're often associated with knowing what you feel and almost reading you mind...This is a very Snapeque characteristic. There are many different types of vampires and intuitive senses are certainly a characteristic which is commonly shared between them.
No jaa...
4) He looks like one. Pure and Simple. Just look at his clothes. His black cloak, his hollow eyes, pale skin, his sex appeal… It's all there… His thiness, his gaunt cheeks, his hypnotic presence, his ability to captivate a class effortlessly… Vampires are often associated with black cloaks…and his cloak seems to be an important feature to his appearance. Even things such as being different and the outsider. Lonesome and solitairy...
Kyllä! Vampyyrimainen pukeutuminen ja ulkonäkö!
5) This is a BIGGIE!!! In Book 3, Snape set his essay on werewolves, so people would be able to discover he was a werewolf. Lupin set a Vampire essay directly afterwards. Not just an essay or a piece of homework…but a vampire essay. Coincidentally, the moment Neville and Harry are talking about the vampire essay, Snape looms up behind them and interrupts their little conversation. Lupin also made the effort to purposely mention the Vampire essay in front of Snape (when he was telling off Harry for the map). Could this be in retaliation to the Werewolf essay..? I doubt JKR did it for no reason...*grins*
Niin niin... tätäpä olen pohtinutkin kuoliaaksi asti. Kalkaros kirjoitutti siis esseen ihmissusista, että joku tajuaisi, mikä Lupin on ja vastapainoksi Lupin kirjoitutti esseen vampyyreista... Well, well... Yhteensattumaa? No way!
6) Vampires are often associated with the Dark Arts. Snape apparently knew quite a lot about them. Why was Snape so into the dark arts in school? Perhaps this caused him to become a vampire, or was the result of it.
Voi olla. Tai sitten täytyy ottaa huomioon se, että Kalkaros oli kuolonsyöjä... Hän siis TIETÄÄ niistä (pimeyden jutuista), mutta miksei vampyyritkin voisi siihen liittyä...?
7) JKR is fond of using names as tip-offs to character's true identities (Lupin the werewolf, Riddle the secret Lord Voldemort, etc.). Snape, while sounding a lot like Snake (any Voldie conspiracy theorists out there? and a Snake is Slytherin's sign which he is Head of) also sounds a lot like Nape, a part of the neck.
Eh... tämä voi olla kyllä kaukaa haettua... Tottahan on, että JKR käyttää hirveesti Nomen est omen - juttuja (kts. http://www.kotiposti.net/htakala/sieppi/nimet.htm ), mutta että kaulan osa... okei...
8) He's not often depicted as enjoying eating normal food. JKR makes a special point of introducing us to vampires in her world when she shows us the unusual blood-flavored lollipops in the sweet shop. At the very least, given her predilection for logical storytelling, this shows that a vampire will at some time be important in the story. And no one, so far, would make a better vampire than Snape.
Niin, vampyyreillekin on herkkuja =) Joten miksi he eivät voisi syödä jotain muutakin (veren lisäksi) JKR:n maailmassa?
Niin ja Lupinillekinhan oli jotain taikajuomaa, joka estää häntä muuttumasta ihmissudeksi, joten mikesei Kalkaroskin voisi tehdä samantapaista itselleen?
9) He doesn't go out in the light much and lives in the dank dungeons.
Jep, tyrmissä paljon. Ehkä liika aurinko on haitallista? Ehkä se ei vain miellytä?
10) He would be even more likely to hate Lupin if he were already ashamed of being a vampire himself. That is, the "we often hate what we cannot accept about ourselves" thing.
Joo...Mutta miten tämä tähän liittyy?
11) This would also be a good reason for Snape to hate Lockhart (aside from his general smarminess and stupidity)--as the man built his reputation as a monster-hunter.
Jees jees! Niinhän se Lochart metsästi...mukamas...Joten miksei Kalkaros voisi olla vihainen 'lajitovereidensa' takia? Toisaalta Kalkaros ei tunnu pitävän kovin monesta muustakaan tyypistä...
12) Alan Rickman played Snape in a very vampiresque and bat-like manner. He places each hand on opposite shoulders to cross his chest. JKR told Rickman a bit of detail about him. If she told him that he was a vampire, he certainly used the detail well. The arms crossed upon his chest, symbolises death, often we picture dead people or vampires in coffins with those arns crossed upon their chest. Bats also hang upside down with those arm movements.
In the Invisibility cloak scene when Harry is in the invisibilty cloak, Snape does not need any vision to sense Harry's direction and presence. This sensed from only a few breaths. It is highly intuitive if you happen to be threatening a man at the same time!
Niin, Rickmanhan voi tietää...Ja se näkymättömyysviitta... Hyvät aistit, kuten vampyyrilla...
She also keeps on mentioning vampires in the story, but as of yet, we have not met an open one. We've met werewolves, giants, trolls, dragons…But we haven't yet met a vampire ;)
There's also talk about him being half vampire, which is quite fitting also, if not more likely. Generally Half Vampires can go out in sunlight, eat etc. Half Vampire does just as well as vampire.
Niin, vampyyrit mainitaan kyllä uudelleen ja uudelleen... Vinkkejä, vinkkejä... ja mehän olemme jo tavanneet vaikka mitä olentoja, missä viipyy vampyyri?
Tämä puolivampyyrijuttu mua mietityttää kans. Ehkä Snape onkin vain puolivampyyri? Se selittäisi paljon!
Immediately someone says in retaliation: But how can he be a Vampire? We've seen him outside!
Not ALL vampires are the same. The daylight beaten, blood-sucking vampire is a stereotype.There are many different types. Anyway, he's the Potions Master, it wouldn't be surprising if he could whip up a potion or two to help him with difficulties. Another theory is that the reason why he has greasy hair and sallow skin is because he rubs ointment on himself to stop him from burning in the sun. As Potions Master, he could do a darn good job disguising/controlling his vampiric nature. Then again, perhaps his skill at potions is the result of his trying to research a cure? Not all wizards are up to making concoctions such as the Wolfsbane potion. Perhaps the reason why Snape is so skilled at making potions such as that, is because he is used to making them, except for himself.
Tästähän mä puhuin jo... juomia itselleen... ja haluan sanoa tästä sterotyypistä lisää, ettei kohta joku valita ettei Kalkaros voi olla vampyyri kun se tekee sitä ja sitä eikä tee sitä ja sitä ja päläpälä... Eihän kaikki vampyyrit ole samanlaisia! Avarakatseisuutta, kiitos!
Ohhoh! Tässähän alkaa olemaan niin paljon todisteita, että uskon kohta itsekin!
Mielipiteitä?
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Vanhimmat
Haa! Kiitos, mä liityin ton sivun jäseneks kauan sitte, ja sit mä vaan kadotin sen, ja ilmeisesti ne on vaihtanu osotetta tai jotain. Mut nyt, kiitos sun linkin, mä löysin sen taas! yay! vaikka noi Vampyyri jututhan oli mulle sitte vanhoja... Mä en lukenu niit kaikkia, mut mainitaaks niissä se Rowlingin piirrustus? Siinähän Sev näyttää ihan vapiurilta... Mut to 'Sex-appeal' kohta... Ei niissä kirjoissa ainakaan mitään sellasesta oo mainittu, se on lähinnä fanien keksintöä... mut toisaalta, vaikka se on kalpee, luiseva ja isonenänen, ni onhan se silti aika vetävä... Tää on taas mun 'tunnen vetoa vanhempiin miehiin'-juttu... Heh..