Why would anyone feel the need to insult a culture as beautiful as the Rromani?

All that I know is that I have lived the life of a black woman, and I know what stupidity, bigotry, and racism entails. I will be first to admit that I am just starting to learn about the Rromani. They are a fascinating, non biased people. What I have learned of them is something that they definately should be proud of. I was fortunate enough to have a mother that told me that the Rromani(Gypsies) were people that wore pretty scarves and loved to dance from beautiful music. This is all I really knew until recently. Every race has stereotypes of some sort to follow it. Why not attempt to find out about the people instead of generalizing. The amazing thing is that there is actually a person that is spending an obsence amount of time attempting to make one Rromani man look bad. I contacted him with a dozen or so stupid questions, out of my ignorance, but never rude. He was so patient. The music is so therapeutic.

* 1 year ago


All of this simply because someone has taken the time to know their history. I am black and I study my own history. As every single race should. Not for seperation but to see how we are all so similiar.Also to celebrate the differences. My races history has not been all peaches and cream. If anyone else really looks at thier history, neither has thiers. So why the attacks on the Rromani?


We are nailed because we CAN be nailed... nobody is going to stop them. We have no govermental agencies to protect us, most people believe we do not even exist or, if we do, we are a lifestyle, rather than a GENETIC people.

I guess what would be called "affirmative action" is new for us. We do not have people fighting for us. We have been the underclass, the outcast, for centuries and centuries, and centuries. Here is an old answer from me, the wordy one, that covers it pretty well: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

I am most pleased that you like my music. That is a representative sampling. The questions were hardly stupid! They are often asked but no honest question is a stupid one.

We are a proud people, and we have reason to be so. But then, I believe that every race has something to be proud about.

As far as the fellow trying to make me look bad? I do not know. I suspect brain defect as in an ACTUAL mental disorder.


One of the most marvelous traits of the Rromani is their ability to justpick the best of anything and make it their own in their travels, enriching their vibrant and ever changing culture. This is why their music is so amazing. They seem to have a closer connection with the soul... The language is the language of romance and the soul. They have picked up so many musical skills. Oh, when my husband played his violin he could take you from one end of the universe to another!

It is not very difficult to get some insight into racism if you bear in mind that we are animals, and will display aspects of animal behavior in our lives. We tend to compliment ourselves upon having risen above animal behavior rather more often than we should.

Much animal behavior is instinctive; it often functions at a level below our consciousness, and we are not aware of how much our behavior is automatic when we would like to believe it arises from our decision-making, or our will. It is a natural reaction for people to be suspicious about things that are strange to them. Sometimes this suspicion turns into anger, frustration, or fear.

People rationalize their racist beliefs and behavior claiming that it derives from some facts about which they have thought, when in fact it is largely instinctive. A good deal of our daily living, as well as racist thoughts and acts, spring from inbuilt responses of people are almost entirely unaware.

Many racists claim that their race or culture is superior to others. It might sound a bit strange, but often this belief in superiority is actually caused by fear or the feeling of inferiority. Many people are afraid of people that are different from themselves, and in order to reassure themselves they imagine that they are superior to who they are afraid of, so that they don’t have to be afraid anymore.

This is not a bad thing in itself as a lot of our inbuilt responses enable us to do useful things quickly. We can respond quickly to dangerous or threatening immediately before escaping.

We do not have to perform conscious mathematics before knowing that we should or should not cross the road, or feel confident that a plank will bear our weight. Mothers do not have to work out that their child is in danger, and decide to be protective; we do not decide to like or dislike people.

These are all automatic responses to basic situations, which over time have caused quick response pathways to be laid down in our nervous systems, ready for immediate use. Many of these responses are still appropriate, life-enhancing and life-saving, but some are not.

Most instinctive responses are concerned with maintaining our genetic stock in as healthy a state as possible. In the wild, animals avoid hybridization or cross-breeding between different species because the results are often sterile and thus ineffective ways of continuing the species.

The more closely an animal resembles the ideal, the model of its species, the better it will be accepted by its species. Animals which are the wrong color, the wrong shape, the wrong size, will always be at a disadvantage among the others. You have only to look carefully at animal behavior to see how important a factor this is.

An albino blackbird, not uncommon, has a miserable life of it among normal blackbirds, and is unlikely to find a mate, so the genes which tend to produce that sport are less likely to be perpetuated. Animals which are merely weaker, or display unusual behavior, even such a small digression as limping, or unusual markings will be rejected by their communities, either ignored or bullied, or killed.

Mankind does not like to admit that so many of its actions are automatic rather than thoughtful. Not to mention downright stupid. Racism springs from early herd instincts and early tribalism designed to keep communities together, and to eradicate the less useful, or sometimes only less frequent physical and mental traits of a group. Mankind is so complicated a mixture of logic and instinct, it is not surprising that our behavior is often erratic.

We like things as much as possible to look and behave in the same way as they always did. We are used to the amazing mixture of color, size and appearance in the people that surround us, but woe betide anyone who is outside that range

Within the range of human behavior there is a desire to dominate, and to extend the range of domination all the time. Those on top wish to be further on top; if they cannot rise themselves they will achieve it by forcing the people below further down. Throughout the world, and at different times, different races have been on top, and the people below suffer. If you combine this tendency, with the instinctive behavior we have already discussed, you can easily see how people who are perceived as different will usually be treated.

It is possible to change. We can and do act in spite of our instincts daily. We must become aware of what we are doing and admit that such behavior is driven by unconscious prejudices. Once we can stand apart from our behavior and observe it rationally, we can take steps to alter it.

But first one needs the desire to change. Until we do this there is not much chance of improvement. The really dangerous racists are those locked into their beliefs; sometimes by complacency, often by fear that the world is crumbling around them, and a secret knowledge that they are not in control.

One of the biggest reasons for racism against the Rromani is because they really are different from the rest of humanity. This is no myth, they have deep spiritual and secret lives, and an ancient history, that they guard, holding their cards close against the chest. They do not wish to share these things with gadge because these are their heritage, and sacred to them.

As mentioned before, people are afraid of what they do not understand, what is different. And the Rrom are indeed very different. Their vibrancy and beauty and independent nature seem to threaten lesser beings. It has become politically incorrect to be racist against so many races but for some reason, the Rrom are still fair game.

I, for one, am tired to death of hearing about the Jewish Holocaust. It is as if they own it and as a result, all the other victims of this horror have been given "secondary" status. The Jewish people now have their homeland, but because of their travelling status, the Rrom have had a harder time of it.

I have little sympathy for racists simply because my motto is that there is one thing I am intolerant of - Intolerance.

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All that I know is that I have lived the life of a black woman, and I know what stupidity, bigotry, and racism entails. I will be first to admit that I am just starting to learn about the Rromani. They are a fascinating, non biased people. What I have learned of them is something that they definately should be proud of. I was fortunate enough to have a mother that told me that the Rromani(Gypsies) were people that wore pretty scarves and loved to dance from beautiful music. This is all I really knew until recently. Every race has stereotypes of some sort to follow it. Why not attempt to find out about the people instead of generalizing. The amazing thing is that there is actually a person that is spending an obsence amount of time attempting to make one Rromani man look bad. I contacted him with a dozen or so stupid questions, out of my ignorance, but never rude. He was so patient. The music is so therapeutic.

* 1 year ago


All of this simply because someone has taken the time to know their history. I am black and I study my own history. As every single race should. Not for seperation but to see how we are all so similiar.Also to celebrate the differences. My races history has not been all peaches and cream. If anyone else really looks at thier history, neither has thiers. So why the attacks on the Rromani?


We are nailed because we CAN be nailed... nobody is going to stop them. We have no govermental agencies to protect us, most people believe we do not even exist or, if we do, we are a lifestyle, rather than a GENETIC people.

I guess what would be called "affirmative action" is new for us. We do not have people fighting for us. We have been the underclass, the outcast, for centuries and centuries, and centuries. Here is an old answer from me, the wordy one, that covers it pretty well: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

I am most pleased that you like my music. That is a representative sampling. The questions were hardly stupid! They are often asked but no honest question is a stupid one.

We are a proud people, and we have reason to be so. But then, I believe that every race has something to be proud about.

As far as the fellow trying to make me look bad? I do not know. I suspect brain defect as in an ACTUAL mental disorder.


One of the most marvelous traits of the Rromani is their ability to justpick the best of anything and make it their own in their travels, enriching their vibrant and ever changing culture. This is why their music is so amazing. They seem to have a closer connection with the soul... The language is the language of romance and the soul. They have picked up so many musical skills. Oh, when my husband played his violin he could take you from one end of the universe to another!

It is not very difficult to get some insight into racism if you bear in mind that we are animals, and will display aspects of animal behavior in our lives. We tend to compliment ourselves upon having risen above animal behavior rather more often than we should.

Much animal behavior is instinctive; it often functions at a level below our consciousness, and we are not aware of how much our behavior is automatic when we would like to believe it arises from our decision-making, or our will. It is a natural reaction for people to be suspicious about things that are strange to them. Sometimes this suspicion turns into anger, frustration, or fear.

People rationalize their racist beliefs and behavior claiming that it derives from some facts about which they have thought, when in fact it is largely instinctive. A good deal of our daily living, as well as racist thoughts and acts, spring from inbuilt responses of people are almost entirely unaware.

Many racists claim that their race or culture is superior to others. It might sound a bit strange, but often this belief in superiority is actually caused by fear or the feeling of inferiority. Many people are afraid of people that are different from themselves, and in order to reassure themselves they imagine that they are superior to who they are afraid of, so that they don’t have to be afraid anymore.

This is not a bad thing in itself as a lot of our inbuilt responses enable us to do useful things quickly. We can respond quickly to dangerous or threatening immediately before escaping.

We do not have to perform conscious mathematics before knowing that we should or should not cross the road, or feel confident that a plank will bear our weight. Mothers do not have to work out that their child is in danger, and decide to be protective; we do not decide to like or dislike people.

These are all automatic responses to basic situations, which over time have caused quick response pathways to be laid down in our nervous systems, ready for immediate use. Many of these responses are still appropriate, life-enhancing and life-saving, but some are not.

Most instinctive responses are concerned with maintaining our genetic stock in as healthy a state as possible. In the wild, animals avoid hybridization or cross-breeding between different species because the results are often sterile and thus ineffective ways of continuing the species.

The more closely an animal resembles the ideal, the model of its species, the better it will be accepted by its species. Animals which are the wrong color, the wrong shape, the wrong size, will always be at a disadvantage among the others. You have only to look carefully at animal behavior to see how important a factor this is.

An albino blackbird, not uncommon, has a miserable life of it among normal blackbirds, and is unlikely to find a mate, so the genes which tend to produce that sport are less likely to be perpetuated. Animals which are merely weaker, or display unusual behavior, even such a small digression as limping, or unusual markings will be rejected by their communities, either ignored or bullied, or killed.

Mankind does not like to admit that so many of its actions are automatic rather than thoughtful. Not to mention downright stupid. Racism springs from early herd instincts and early tribalism designed to keep communities together, and to eradicate the less useful, or sometimes only less frequent physical and mental traits of a group. Mankind is so complicated a mixture of logic and instinct, it is not surprising that our behavior is often erratic.

We like things as much as possible to look and behave in the same way as they always did. We are used to the amazing mixture of color, size and appearance in the people that surround us, but woe betide anyone who is outside that range

Within the range of human behavior there is a desire to dominate, and to extend the range of domination all the time. Those on top wish to be further on top; if they cannot rise themselves they will achieve it by forcing the people below further down. Throughout the world, and at different times, different races have been on top, and the people below suffer. If you combine this tendency, with the instinctive behavior we have already discussed, you can easily see how people who are perceived as different will usually be treated.

It is possible to change. We can and do act in spite of our instincts daily. We must become aware of what we are doing and admit that such behavior is driven by unconscious prejudices. Once we can stand apart from our behavior and observe it rationally, we can take steps to alter it.

But first one needs the desire to change. Until we do this there is not much chance of improvement. The really dangerous racists are those locked into their beliefs; sometimes by complacency, often by fear that the world is crumbling around them, and a secret knowledge that they are not in control.

One of the biggest reasons for racism against the Rromani is because they really are different from the rest of humanity. This is no myth, they have deep spiritual and secret lives, and an ancient history, that they guard, holding their cards close against the chest. They do not wish to share these things with gadge because these are their heritage, and sacred to them.

As mentioned before, people are afraid of what they do not understand, what is different. And the Rrom are indeed very different. Their vibrancy and beauty and independent nature seem to threaten lesser beings. It has become politically incorrect to be racist against so many races but for some reason, the Rrom are still fair game.

I, for one, am tired to death of hearing about the Jewish Holocaust. It is as if they own it and as a result, all the other victims of this horror have been given "secondary" status. The Jewish people now have their homeland, but because of their travelling status, the Rrom have had a harder time of it.

I have little sympathy for racists simply because my motto is that there is one thing I am intolerant of - Intolerance.

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