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Antiikin spartassa homoseksuaalisuus ja pedofiilia kuului normaalina osana poikien kasvuun ja kehitykseen, ja silti heistä kehittyi maailman parasta jalkaväkeä. Onko ihminen sittenkään pohjimmiltaan heteroseksuaali:

http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/heads/outtakes/spartans2.html

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Marriage by capture

At the age of seven, boys would be sent away to the agoge – the tough, uncompromising Spartan system where they would be schooled in the art of war. Male bonding wasn't just encouraged; it was compulsory. At the age of 12, a boy was paired with an older man, usually one of the unmarried warriors, aged between 20 and 30.

This man would have been responsible not only for the conduct of the boy, but also for providing for him materially. He was a surrogate mother, father, teacher and mentor. But he was also a lover, for institutionalised pederasty was a part and parcel of life for the Spartan warriors. These intimate relationships seem to have had lasting psychological and emotional effects on the men.

When the time came for them to get married, it must have been a difficult adjustment to make. But the pragmatic Spartans came up with an unusual way to help them through their wedding night. They practised a custom called 'marriage by capture'. On her wedding night, a bride would have her head shaved, like a small boy in the agoge. She would be dressed in a man's cloak and sandals and left alone in a dark room.

Meanwhile, her husband would quietly leave the common mess, come to her, lay her down on a straw palette, have sex with her and then slip back to sleep with his comrades as usual. This wasn't just a quaint wedding-night ritual. It could carry on for months or even years.

There has been much debate about the significance of this bizarre ritual. However, it seems obvious that it was a piece of sexual theatre, designed to acclimatise men to the presence of women when, until then, their only experience of sex had been with other men.
Ilmoita

paskaa.
1 VASTAUS:
Paskaa millä perusteella? Eiköhän tuo ihan yleistä tietoa oo, ihan hissan tunnilla koulussa kerrottiin... Ymmärtääkseni joissain Aasian maissa oli sama juttu? Kai aika yleistä.
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No meille ei ainakaan missään vaiheessa peruskoulua oo opetettu hissassa mitään tuollaista. Eikä ylipäätään mitään Spartasta.
3 VASTAUSTA:
Sulla on tainnut olla kommunisti opettajana ja aika on mennyt kaikenlaiseen huuhaahan.
Eikö sinua nypi, kun et tiedä mitään historiasta?
Ja kas kummaa meille kyllä asiasta kerrottin jo 60 luvun lopulla mut ei siitä pidetty isoa numeroa, kuintenkin mainittiin et 12v ylöspäin pojat lähetettin miehille oppiin ja oli erittäin arvostettueajos nuori poika pääsi poliitikon tai julkkisen poikarakastajaksi.
Historianharrastaja kirjoitti:
Sulla on tainnut olla kommunisti opettajana ja aika on mennyt kaikenlaiseen huuhaahan.
Eikö sinua nypi, kun et tiedä mitään historiasta?
Ja tää on varmastikki niin tärkeää tietää ja okeasti rohkeasti esille tuotava juttu hiatoriasta
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Jos te vaan urheilette ilman homoutta. Peräaukko ei sovellu seksiin, ja hiv-riski on ilmeinen.
1 VASTAUS:
Varmaan olet itse harrastanut seksiä peräaukolla ja taudittomien kanssa?
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Antiikin aikaan miesten välinen seksi oli yleisesti hyväksyttyä. Taitaa tulla homostelu pojilta ja miehiltä ihan luonnostaan silloin, kun yhteiskunta ei sitä tuomitse. Yhä ollaan aika kaukana antiikin yhteiskuntien vapaamielisyydestä. Siihen aikaan esim. yksityisissä kodeissa ja julkisissa tiloissa oli yleisesti eroottista taidetta esillä.

Monissa kulttuureissa on ollut tapana ohjata juurikin murrosikäiset pojat ja 20+ vuotiaat naimattomat miehet seksuaalisesti yhteen. Tulee mieleen, että se on ollut hyvä keino estää nuorten miesten seksuaalinen turhautuminen kun hormonitoiminta käy ylikierroksilla.

Erään Papua-Uusi-Guinealaisen heimon miehistymisrituaali;

This ritual, which is a symbol of a young boy’s rite of passage to manhood, starts when a boy is between the ages of 6 to 10 and comprises of 6 stages. The six stage process of affirming one’s manhood can take anywhere from 10 to 15 years until these young men give birth to a child.

Much of the initiation and training is characterizes by what some have deemed to be highly eroticized and sexual. The young boys are introduced to older warriors who are told that bachelors are going to “copulate” with them to make them grow. Throughout much of the 6 stages, the act of “fellatio” is integral to the process of becoming a man.

The act of performing fellatio and the act of ingesting semen is seen as an integral part of manhood because boys are unable to mature into men unless they ingest semen and they adhere to the notion that all men have, “eaten the penis”. According to Sambia belief, the semen of a man possesses the “masculine spirit,” which young boys will be able to attain through his ingestion of semen.
Ilmoita
Kiinnostaa kuin vanha vittu.
1 VASTAUS:
Tiedetään, tiedetään.. tärkeintä olis varmaan päästä taas panemaan. Kyllä se siitä helpottaa vielä joku päivä!
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Tosi juttu. : P

Ja vaikka poikien tuleekin olla täysi-ikäisiä (18+) niin on se nykyäänkin monen aikuisen pojun haave olla hieman vanhemman ja kokeneemman Miehen käsittelyssä. : P
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Mielenkiintoista!

Antiikin spartassa homoseksuaalisuus ja pedofiilia kuului normaalina osana poikien kasvuun ja kehitykseen, ja silti heistä kehittyi maailman parasta jalkaväkeä. Onko ihminen sittenkään pohjimmiltaan heteroseksuaali:

http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/heads/outtakes/spartans2.html

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Marriage by capture

At the age of seven, boys would be sent away to the agoge – the tough, uncompromising Spartan system where they would be schooled in the art of war. Male bonding wasn't just encouraged; it was compulsory. At the age of 12, a boy was paired with an older man, usually one of the unmarried warriors, aged between 20 and 30.

This man would have been responsible not only for the conduct of the boy, but also for providing for him materially. He was a surrogate mother, father, teacher and mentor. But he was also a lover, for institutionalised pederasty was a part and parcel of life for the Spartan warriors. These intimate relationships seem to have had lasting psychological and emotional effects on the men.

When the time came for them to get married, it must have been a difficult adjustment to make. But the pragmatic Spartans came up with an unusual way to help them through their wedding night. They practised a custom called 'marriage by capture'. On her wedding night, a bride would have her head shaved, like a small boy in the agoge. She would be dressed in a man's cloak and sandals and left alone in a dark room.

Meanwhile, her husband would quietly leave the common mess, come to her, lay her down on a straw palette, have sex with her and then slip back to sleep with his comrades as usual. This wasn't just a quaint wedding-night ritual. It could carry on for months or even years.

There has been much debate about the significance of this bizarre ritual. However, it seems obvious that it was a piece of sexual theatre, designed to acclimatise men to the presence of women when, until then, their only experience of sex had been with other men.

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