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MIRACLES BASED ON ARCHEOLOGY AND THE PEOPLE OF SABA
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109-...Do they not travel through the earth and see what was the end of those before them?
12-Joseph,109
So far our attention focused on the miraculous revelations of the Quran, tried to work out correlation with natural phenomena. The four preceding chapters were reserved to philosophical issues expounded in the Quran that had had no speculative background at the time of its descent. The said four chapters must be classified in a separate category. The present and the next three chapters will be dealing with archeological findings and their relevance to the ancient communities. Archeological data differ from natural sciences in many respects and deriving wrong conclusions from them is all the more likely. In due consideration of these findings, tribes that disappeared must be examined accordingly.
The accounts given in the Quran about ancient peoples are not mere stories. They are mostly parables illustrating a moral or spiritual lesson.
128-Did they not learn from the many generations that We destroyed before them, in whose haunts they move? Verily, there are signs in this for men of understanding.
20-Ta Ha, 128
THE PEOPLE OF SABA AND THE FLOOD FROM DAM
15- There was a sign for the people of Saba in thier habitations: two the flood, on the right and the left. “Eat from your Lord’s provisions and be thankful to Him. Good land and a forgiving Lord.”
16-But they tured away and We send against them the flood from the dam. And we converted their two gardens into gardens of bitter fruit, and tamarisks and a few sparse lote-trees.
34-Saba,15-16
Some of the accounts we come across in the Quran exists also in the Old and the New Testaments. As the flood that followed the burst of the dam referred to in the Quran dates from after Christ, it is not mentioned in the Old and the New Testaments.
The ‘flood from the dams is also referred to as the ‘Arim flood’, arim meaning ‘dam’ in Arabic. Mawdudi made the following comment:
“The word arim used in the expression seyl-ul Arim derived from the word arimen meaning ‘dam’ is currently used in Southern Arabia. This word was frequently seen during the excavations at Yemen. For instance, in a tablet dictated by Araba, the ruler of Yemen from Ethiopian origin, after the restoration of the great Marib Dam dated 542-543 A.D. the said word was often used. So the expression seyl ul arim means the flood disaster in the wake of the Dam burst. The capital of Saba was Marib. The Sabeans had become prosperous thanks to this Dam. Pliny describes this region as a green spot covered by lush vegetation.
The height of the dam at Marib was 16m and its width 60m, while the length measured 620m. The area irrigated was 9600 hectars of which 5300 hectares were in the Southern plain and 4300 hectares in the Northern plain.
The ‘Two gardens’ referred to in the Quran were these sumptuous gardens in the said valleys. Thanks to this dam and the irrigation system, this region was renowned to be the best spot of Yemen, well irrigated and fertile. The Frenchman J.Halévy and the Austrian Glaser proved the existence of the Marib dam from very early times. In documents written in the Himer dialect, it was written that the said dam had made the land fertile. The year of its destruction is believed to be 542 A.D. in the wake of its destruction the arim flood took place and ravaged the entire area.
Archeologist Werner also corroborates the account as reported in the Quran: “The fact that such a dam existed and that its destruction ravaged the city, demonstrates that the account given in the Quran about the destruction of the gardens is a true account.”
As we read the disaster that Sabeans faced one cannot help feeling that this was the consequence of the ingratitude of the people for the gifts that they had been endowed with. We must acknowledge the fact that the Creator of all the beauties is God whom we must extol and give thanks and try to avoid the fate of the Sabean people.
17-That is how We requited them for their ingratitude. And never do We give requital except who are ungrateful.
34-Saba,17
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Liittynyt: 30 Nov 2003
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En ole. Miten shiiat eroavat sunnimuslimeista. Olen kuullut, että shiiat noudattaisivat enemmän koraania.
en ole shiia. Mutta eivätkö shiiat todellakin noudata enemmän koraania kuin sunnaa, koska haditheissa on paljon shiiojen vihollisten kuten Aishan kertomuksia?
Olen ollut huomaavinani, että shiiamuslimit tuntuvat olevan paljon maltillisempia muslimeina kuin sunnimuslimit tai wahhabit. Esim. Iranissa tuntuu näinä päivinä käyvän vilkasta kritiikkiä vanhoillisia vastaan, unohtamatta tuoretta iranilaista nais-nobelistia.
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Laita sinne tulemaan jos haluat jutskailla (autan mielelläni minkä voin/osaan), kyseessä tosin on kouluni osoite, enkä aina hirveän useasti/nopeasti välttämättä ehdi/huomaa vastata. Mutta mihinkäs meillä olisi kiire?
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Kirjoittanut: Karim, 6.2.2004 klo 11.15
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