Ajettavuus?

Harkitsen S4:n hankintaa, mutta nämä jutut hieman muuttivat mieltäni:

A4 still can't quite match the all-conquering 3-series in terms of raw dynamic appeal. There's plenty of grip to exploit, but messages through the steering wheel about how close you're getting to the limits feel muted.

Audi A4 – Fifth Gear

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But it was the handling that disappointed us the most. Absolutely wonderful up to about eight-tenths – the car hanging on superbly on good or bad surfaces alike – the Audi feels ponderously nose-heavy when you go that extra step. Despite the standard stability control, the S4 doesn’t do anything but understeer once the grip limits have been breached. And understeer a surprising amount, too. There is little throttle control – the chassis is as wooden as the steering - and all that you can do is reduce the throttle opening to allow front-end grip to be re-established.

Audi S4 – AutoSpeed

---

But throw a few tight turns and some committed cornering into the equation and the Cabriolet comes over all whale-like. The steering is typically Audi - stodgy and lifeless - and the chassis has only one party trick; terminal understeer.

Audi A4 Cabriolet V6 – Evo

---

An experienced driver will find typical Audi understeer at the limit.

Audi S4 Cabriolet - Straight Six.com

---

Keen drivers will be disappointed by the lifeless steering.

Audi A6 - What Car?

---

The Audi is a letdown with its lifeless steering and excessive understeer at the limit. The A8L does not match the Maserati's level of roadholding, nor is it as entertaining.

Audi A8L - Automobile Magazine

---

The Audi TT has never quite hit the spot. It's quick, grippy and has a chunky, high-quality appeal, but the heavy, lifeless steering, understeery balance and effective but charisma-free 1.8-litre turbocharged engine have always marked it down as an also-ran for those who put dynamics ahead of prestige. Even the more sonorous 3.2 V6 TT doesn't quite live up to the promise of its billing as a compact, driver-focused, 250bhp, four-wheel-drive coupe.

Audi TT - evo

---

I've driven fast Audis before, and I've always been impressed by the amount of grunt available, and the way it's so easy to reach license-threatening speeds.

But I've also found as drivers' cars, they usually fall wide of the mark with lifeless steering and lacking the involvement you get with the BMW M3.

Audi RS4 - AutoTrader -

---

Unfortunately, all of these are slightly blunted by Audi’s fabulously precise but lifeless steering.

While it weighs up nicely going into corners and feels really sharp, it doesn’t give you a clue about how much grip you’ve got left.

Audi A3 - Star Motoring

---

however the Audi features quattro four-wheel-drive - making it a grippy contender. That doesn’t translate to the most rewarding drive here though, for while the Audi is undoubtedly swift and accomplished, it all feels a bit detached and clinical on the road.

Audi A3 - MSN cars

---


Should I buy one?

The S5’s case takes a bit of a dive when it comes to money. Nice although it is, it’s going to have serious difficulty justifying itself next to the considerably cheaper BMW 335i Coupe, which is almost as fast, far more practical and still better to drive.
Buyers looking for value will therefore have to cast their eyes further down the A5 range; those looking for the best driving coupe of this size, on the other hand, need look no further than the alternative offered by Audi's old Munich rival.

Audi A5 - Autocar

---



Assets
Quality and solidity, sumptuous cabin, big boot, gutsy 3.0 TDI engine, effective Multitronic transmission.

Drawbacks
Feels nose heavy despite new chassis design, unresolved styling, poor rear-seat room.

Verdict
Lacks a clear personality. Competent in many ways but could have been so much better.

Audi A6 - 4 Car from channel 4

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To the traditional constituency of Audi fashionistas I imagine it will prove to be a very appealing product.

But what I cannot see it doing is persuading those to whom driving pleasure matters very much to forsake their BMWs for it. A 335i coupé is perhaps a little slower, but only a fool presumes that speed and fun are always the same.

Audi S5 – The Times
---


And so the A5 is indeed a good drive.

But it lacks the sparkle that all these smiling men should have given it.
Design first: yes, there are some great details (get those magical LED running lights, like luminous mascara). But it looks like it's sagging in the middle, and the big ol' Audi grille still doesn't do it for me.

Engines: yup, mark those up to a win. The V6 feels like has deeper lungs than a BMW three-litre, and it's a lot smoother than Merc's V6. The V6 diesel is a bit of a triumph too.

And the chassis has nice accurate new steering. But all-new layout or not, the A5 corners like an old-school Audi. Gentle but unavoidable understeer, little sense of fun, no tweakability at the limit. Audi keeps telling us they make sporty cars, but in the chassis department, they don't really. Fast, easy to drive hard, but not inspiring.

So put Walter's Latin emotion on hold. This is still a bit of a po-faced car.

Audi A5 – Top Gear

---

Unfortunately the TT's steering is lacking in any real feel, in an attempt to isolate feedback no doubt, but it is well weighted. Driven hard, the TT is a good companion, with good body and wheel control, and it is not too uncomfortable either. The structure didn't feel as rigid as in the Nissan 350Z (though that car has a rear strut brace where passengers might sit), and the TT certainly doesn't provide the same pure driving experience a rear-wheel drive car can.

Audi TT - www.carenthusisast.com


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Even with a 4.2 litre 450bhp twin-turbo V8 it can’t match more charismatic offerings from BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes. But don’t dismiss the Audi, being bland is not the same as being bad. The A6 is not a bad car.

Putting a 4.2 litre V8 in a car this size should be a recipe for fun but the extra weight and the lifeless steering conspire to produce a car that is less than the sum of its parts.

Audi A6 - The Times online

---

No question, this A4 is an improvement over the old in terms of engine refinement, ride, handling, packaging, fuel economy and feature availability. Yet it’s hard to avoid concluding that this car is not enough of a step forward over the old A4, especially as Audi has gone to the expense of developing a new platform for it.

It is not good enough to topple the 3-series, and in many respects, such as its driving position, handling and the weighting of its controls, it is inferior to the cheaper Ford Mondeo.

Audi A4 - Autocar
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  • vain skoda jolle kaikki nauraa...

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  • Bemaristi.. kirjoitti:

    vain skoda jolle kaikki nauraa...

    et ole huomannut mutta kaikki nauraa sinulle ja sinun säälittäville mielipiteille.






    Ps. BMW on huonompi kuin Audi.

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  • Nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    et ole huomannut mutta kaikki nauraa sinulle ja sinun säälittäville mielipiteille.






    Ps. BMW on huonompi kuin Audi.

    ja audiskoda on Unkarilainen. On siinä aikamoinen ero.

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  • Bemaristi.. kirjoitti:

    ja audiskoda on Unkarilainen. On siinä aikamoinen ero.

    on myös Venäläinen.

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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    on myös Venäläinen.

    huomioidaan että Audi ( siis skoda )on homojen peli niin ei siitä kyllä yleisellä paikalla viitsisi ulos tulla.

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  • Bemaristi.. kirjoitti:

    huomioidaan että Audi ( siis skoda )on homojen peli niin ei siitä kyllä yleisellä paikalla viitsisi ulos tulla.

    se homojen peli on? BMW gay car 2009 gay rekkari= kertoo aika paljon.

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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    se homojen peli on? BMW gay car 2009 gay rekkari= kertoo aika paljon.

    kiistaton homoautojen kuningas.

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  • Bemaristi.. kirjoitti:

    kiistaton homoautojen kuningas.

    kertoo jotain ihan muuta. Audi ei ollut edes top 20 listalla gay car 2009 äänestyksessä. BMW:llä oli yhteensä 5 mallia listoilla. Nyt voit jäädä yksin tänne selittelee fantasioistasi homoista, en jaksa homobemaristin kanssa kinata.

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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    on myös Venäläinen.

    jep ja Audi Kiinalainen ja Unkarilainen yhtä paljon kuin Bemari Venäläinen. Äläkä sönkötä että Intiassa tehdään autot ainoastaan niiden myyntiin, niin tehdään Venäläisetkin Bemut Venäjän omille markkinoille.

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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    kertoo jotain ihan muuta. Audi ei ollut edes top 20 listalla gay car 2009 äänestyksessä. BMW:llä oli yhteensä 5 mallia listoilla. Nyt voit jäädä yksin tänne selittelee fantasioistasi homoista, en jaksa homobemaristin kanssa kinata.

    Sähän nyt hyvin hinttien listat tunnet, taidat olla homo..

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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    on myös Venäläinen.

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    Iskutilavuus 1781–4163 cm3
    Teho 81–257 kW
    CO2-päästöt g/km
    Voimanvälitys Etuveto, Neliveto
    Hintaluokka 42.400–108.300 € (2008)
    Edeltäjä Audi 100
    Seuraaja
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    MB E-sarja
    Mazda Xedos 9
    Opel Omega
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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    kertoo jotain ihan muuta. Audi ei ollut edes top 20 listalla gay car 2009 äänestyksessä. BMW:llä oli yhteensä 5 mallia listoilla. Nyt voit jäädä yksin tänne selittelee fantasioistasi homoista, en jaksa homobemaristin kanssa kinata.

    1. Audi A4 - Best Car for the Gay Professional
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    8. Ford Flex - Best Retro Flagship
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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    kertoo jotain ihan muuta. Audi ei ollut edes top 20 listalla gay car 2009 äänestyksessä. BMW:llä oli yhteensä 5 mallia listoilla. Nyt voit jäädä yksin tänne selittelee fantasioistasi homoista, en jaksa homobemaristin kanssa kinata.

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    VW Rabbit Protects Its Burrow, Volvo C30 Moves Up to Third Among Gaywheels Most Researched Vehicles

    River Edge, NJ – Gays and lesbians continue to do their homework when it comes to buying cars and the Volkswagen Rabbit and Eos remain at the top of their list when searching on Gaywheels.com, the sole source of information specifically targeted to and about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) car-shoppers. Today, Gaywheels.com announced its list of the Top 10 Most-Researched Vehicles during the first quarter of 2009:

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    1 VW Rabbit
    2 VW Eos
    3 Volvo C30
    4 Saab 9-3
    5 Audi A3
    6 Toyota Yaris
    7 Mazda MX-5 Miata
    8 Maserati GranTurismo
    9 VW Jetta
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  • nevergaybmw kirjoitti:

    kertoo jotain ihan muuta. Audi ei ollut edes top 20 listalla gay car 2009 äänestyksessä. BMW:llä oli yhteensä 5 mallia listoilla. Nyt voit jäädä yksin tänne selittelee fantasioistasi homoista, en jaksa homobemaristin kanssa kinata.

    Are Gay Car Buyers a Leading Indicator?

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    Here’s the full list:

    Top 10 Most Researched Vehicles on Gaywheels.com - 2nd Qtr 2009

    1.

    VW Rabbit
    2. Audi R8
    3. VW Eos
    4. VW Jetta
    5. Volvo C30
    6. Mercedes-Benz E-Class
    7. Saab 9-3
    8. Nissan Quest
    9. Toyota Yaris
    10. Mazda Mazda3
    http://www.fhoutfront.com/2009/07/are-gay-car-buyers-a-leading-indicator-.html

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  • ??????????? kirjoitti:

    Are Gay Car Buyers a Leading Indicator?

    GW Logo Small Our friend Joe LaMuraglia of gaywheels.com just sent us his second quarter list of top ten “most researched cars” on gaywheels.com. Joe’s press release heralds the debut of the Audi R8, Mercedes-Benz E Class and Nissan Quest on the list.

    Here’s the full list:

    Top 10 Most Researched Vehicles on Gaywheels.com - 2nd Qtr 2009

    1.

    VW Rabbit
    2. Audi R8
    3. VW Eos
    4. VW Jetta
    5. Volvo C30
    6. Mercedes-Benz E-Class
    7. Saab 9-3
    8. Nissan Quest
    9. Toyota Yaris
    10. Mazda Mazda3
    http://www.fhoutfront.com/2009/07/are-gay-car-buyers-a-leading-indicator-.html

    homobemaristit tänne on kokoontunut. Tunnet aika hyvin homosivut.

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  • 34rtg kirjoitti:

    homobemaristit tänne on kokoontunut. Tunnet aika hyvin homosivut.

    Johan toki tunnen hinttien sivut ja jos haluat voin laittaa tänne vielä esim 10 linkkiä jossa on Audi meidän hinttien suosiossa. Bonuksena voin laittaa muutaman linkin jossa Audi on lesbojen suosiossa, aivan kuinka vain haluat..

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Ehkä S4? kirjoitti:

Harkitsen S4:n hankintaa, mutta nämä jutut hieman muuttivat mieltäni:

A4 still can't quite match the all-conquering 3-series in terms of raw dynamic appeal. There's plenty of grip to exploit, but messages through the steering wheel about how close you're getting to the limits feel muted.

Audi A4 – Fifth Gear

---

But it was the handling that disappointed us the most. Absolutely wonderful up to about eight-tenths – the car hanging on superbly on good or bad surfaces alike – the Audi feels ponderously nose-heavy when you go that extra step. Despite the standard stability control, the S4 doesn’t do anything but understeer once the grip limits have been breached. And understeer a surprising amount, too. There is little throttle control – the chassis is as wooden as the steering - and all that you can do is reduce the throttle opening to allow front-end grip to be re-established.

Audi S4 – AutoSpeed

---

But throw a few tight turns and some committed cornering into the equation and the Cabriolet comes over all whale-like. The steering is typically Audi - stodgy and lifeless - and the chassis has only one party trick; terminal understeer.

Audi A4 Cabriolet V6 – Evo

---

An experienced driver will find typical Audi understeer at the limit.

Audi S4 Cabriolet - Straight Six.com

---

Keen drivers will be disappointed by the lifeless steering.

Audi A6 - What Car?

---

The Audi is a letdown with its lifeless steering and excessive understeer at the limit. The A8L does not match the Maserati's level of roadholding, nor is it as entertaining.

Audi A8L - Automobile Magazine

---

The Audi TT has never quite hit the spot. It's quick, grippy and has a chunky, high-quality appeal, but the heavy, lifeless steering, understeery balance and effective but charisma-free 1.8-litre turbocharged engine have always marked it down as an also-ran for those who put dynamics ahead of prestige. Even the more sonorous 3.2 V6 TT doesn't quite live up to the promise of its billing as a compact, driver-focused, 250bhp, four-wheel-drive coupe.

Audi TT - evo

---

I've driven fast Audis before, and I've always been impressed by the amount of grunt available, and the way it's so easy to reach license-threatening speeds.

But I've also found as drivers' cars, they usually fall wide of the mark with lifeless steering and lacking the involvement you get with the BMW M3.

Audi RS4 - AutoTrader -

---

Unfortunately, all of these are slightly blunted by Audi’s fabulously precise but lifeless steering.

While it weighs up nicely going into corners and feels really sharp, it doesn’t give you a clue about how much grip you’ve got left.

Audi A3 - Star Motoring

---

however the Audi features quattro four-wheel-drive - making it a grippy contender. That doesn’t translate to the most rewarding drive here though, for while the Audi is undoubtedly swift and accomplished, it all feels a bit detached and clinical on the road.

Audi A3 - MSN cars

---


Should I buy one?

The S5’s case takes a bit of a dive when it comes to money. Nice although it is, it’s going to have serious difficulty justifying itself next to the considerably cheaper BMW 335i Coupe, which is almost as fast, far more practical and still better to drive.
Buyers looking for value will therefore have to cast their eyes further down the A5 range; those looking for the best driving coupe of this size, on the other hand, need look no further than the alternative offered by Audi's old Munich rival.

Audi A5 - Autocar

---



Assets
Quality and solidity, sumptuous cabin, big boot, gutsy 3.0 TDI engine, effective Multitronic transmission.

Drawbacks
Feels nose heavy despite new chassis design, unresolved styling, poor rear-seat room.

Verdict
Lacks a clear personality. Competent in many ways but could have been so much better.

Audi A6 - 4 Car from channel 4

---


To the traditional constituency of Audi fashionistas I imagine it will prove to be a very appealing product.

But what I cannot see it doing is persuading those to whom driving pleasure matters very much to forsake their BMWs for it. A 335i coupé is perhaps a little slower, but only a fool presumes that speed and fun are always the same.

Audi S5 – The Times
---


And so the A5 is indeed a good drive.

But it lacks the sparkle that all these smiling men should have given it.
Design first: yes, there are some great details (get those magical LED running lights, like luminous mascara). But it looks like it's sagging in the middle, and the big ol' Audi grille still doesn't do it for me.

Engines: yup, mark those up to a win. The V6 feels like has deeper lungs than a BMW three-litre, and it's a lot smoother than Merc's V6. The V6 diesel is a bit of a triumph too.

And the chassis has nice accurate new steering. But all-new layout or not, the A5 corners like an old-school Audi. Gentle but unavoidable understeer, little sense of fun, no tweakability at the limit. Audi keeps telling us they make sporty cars, but in the chassis department, they don't really. Fast, easy to drive hard, but not inspiring.

So put Walter's Latin emotion on hold. This is still a bit of a po-faced car.

Audi A5 – Top Gear

---

Unfortunately the TT's steering is lacking in any real feel, in an attempt to isolate feedback no doubt, but it is well weighted. Driven hard, the TT is a good companion, with good body and wheel control, and it is not too uncomfortable either. The structure didn't feel as rigid as in the Nissan 350Z (though that car has a rear strut brace where passengers might sit), and the TT certainly doesn't provide the same pure driving experience a rear-wheel drive car can.

Audi TT - www.carenthusisast.com


---

Even with a 4.2 litre 450bhp twin-turbo V8 it can’t match more charismatic offerings from BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes. But don’t dismiss the Audi, being bland is not the same as being bad. The A6 is not a bad car.

Putting a 4.2 litre V8 in a car this size should be a recipe for fun but the extra weight and the lifeless steering conspire to produce a car that is less than the sum of its parts.

Audi A6 - The Times online

---

No question, this A4 is an improvement over the old in terms of engine refinement, ride, handling, packaging, fuel economy and feature availability. Yet it’s hard to avoid concluding that this car is not enough of a step forward over the old A4, especially as Audi has gone to the expense of developing a new platform for it.

It is not good enough to topple the 3-series, and in many respects, such as its driving position, handling and the weighting of its controls, it is inferior to the cheaper Ford Mondeo.

Audi A4 - Autocar

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