Sorry for me posting in English and sorry for my bad English
The following question shall not be read by narrow-minded persons or they who are against suicide.
Don't reply about the suicide thing, my mind is made, just answer the question following dilemma:
I have determined to do suicide because of personal reasons, I know that a suicide is a selfish act and will hurt a lot of the people I have to deal with. I have noticed in funerals that there is a difference between "suicide death" funerals and "death by some other cause" funerals. Death by other cause seems to be easier to handle by the relatives than death by suicide.
I don't want my closest so suffer so much for me dying and I don't want them to blame themselves for my death. So my actual question is, how do I get my suicide to look like a common accident or something like wont be classed as suicide. I don't want to crash my car or my motorcycle and I don't want to jump in front of a train or bus because that makes the drivers feeling quilt for killing someone.
I'm searching for a method which causes least pain to everyone around me, something what mimics some natural way to die, or some common accident.
Wish there would be a button to press on humans body so you could die....
As I said don't reply for the suicide thought, because I have made my mind already, I just want to minimize my loved ones suffering...
I don't have kids, partner, siblings or parents so there is not really close ones at all...
Thank you
PS. You can answer on Finnish if you want...
Any unnecessary comments doesn't need to be posted.
The following question shall not be read by narrow-minded persons or they who are against suicide.
Don't reply about the suicide thing, my mind is made, just answer the question following dilemma:
I have determined to do suicide because of personal reasons, I know that a suicide is a selfish act and will hurt a lot of the people I have to deal with. I have noticed in funerals that there is a difference between "suicide death" funerals and "death by some other cause" funerals. Death by other cause seems to be easier to handle by the relatives than death by suicide.
I don't want my closest so suffer so much for me dying and I don't want them to blame themselves for my death. So my actual question is, how do I get my suicide to look like a common accident or something like wont be classed as suicide. I don't want to crash my car or my motorcycle and I don't want to jump in front of a train or bus because that makes the drivers feeling quilt for killing someone.
I'm searching for a method which causes least pain to everyone around me, something what mimics some natural way to die, or some common accident.
Wish there would be a button to press on humans body so you could die....
As I said don't reply for the suicide thought, because I have made my mind already, I just want to minimize my loved ones suffering...
I don't have kids, partner, siblings or parents so there is not really close ones at all...
Thank you
PS. You can answer on Finnish if you want...
Any unnecessary comments doesn't need to be posted.
Vastaukset 15
Vanhimmat
Your story is sad, and I know how you feel.. I m suffering from serious depression, but still I have hope a bit about better future. Would u like to discuss more about this by email?
Well it's possible, I don't see so much to discuss,
How would you get it?
And If some one thinks I'm immigrant so that is not true, I'm Finnish origin, but I have been working abroad a nice leap of time, so my Finnish spelling is bad
Can I have your email address so I'll email u soon??
I think there's no way to do a suicide without hurting your nearest ones 'cos if there was I'd be dead right now. I'm still living just because I can't hurt my family and friends. But personnally I believe there's really no matter if you die on natural way or do a suicide, you still dead in your funerals. That's everything I can say, but I wish too there would be abutton to press on humans so you could die...
At least you will hurt me, I hate to read message like that, I want to recover. I have same deep sorrow in my mind, lot hard things have happened.
But you have to live because of yourself. You can start it by doing one good thing first.
Email to that girl and talk.
Do little walk, help old lady to open door.
Think one positive thing and made it grow.
Just rely on somebody at this time, maybe its she. You have to fight and let it see.
Life can change in a moment, take this as an chance for a new life, then you will see one day different.
Well I'm sorry to say I have made my mind, I feel very peaceful after my big decision
I just don't want to hurt anyone, I know how it feels to be hurt like it.
Just please tell me methods which would go in here. I know it's hard to get it look as natural as possible and I haven't found any solution yet.
So soon I know a way to do it as I want I'll do it...
This is no cry for help
Right, you come to my balcony then and look into my eyes when you jump
I wont jump from a balcony because I don't want it to look as a suicide
I don't want my dearest ones to find out it was a suicide. Because then they start to blame themselves...
Jeesus love you. You must get to understand it, before you made you mind.
Not religious, sorry
This has gone way offtopic whole thing
I just asked in my first post not to send stuff like this, post only if you know a method which fulfils the all criteria
"I don't want my closest so suffer so much for me dying and I don't want them to blame themselves for my death. ... I don't have kids, partner, siblings or parents so there is not really close ones at all..."
A little bit contradictory, don't you think? If you don't have any close ones at all, then what's the problem? Why do you care what some strangers think about you after you're dead?
"I know that a suicide is a selfish act..."
Every single act in an individual human being's life is selfish. Unselfishness doesn't exist. Only solidarity, which isn't the same thing.
Regarding your question, any suicide advice would most likely be censored on this board. You'll have a better chance of finding a solution by browsing through some unmoderated newsgroups. Good luck.
"Unselfishness doesn't exist."
...IF it has been determined or reduced away from the start. There is no unselfish love, if we preassume the (cultural) conception of man as 1) objectively determinable and 2) rational-calculative indivual-egoist. Whereas if we want to believe in something else, there might be unselfishness for us as well... Love is something to be lived or better existed subjectively, not just reasoned objectively. The way it exists (if and when it does) is simply not the way of rational objectivity.
Same goes for death, of course.
Just hope you, Sad ending, would not do it.
"There is no unselfish love, if we preassume the (cultural) conception of man as 1) objectively determinable and 2) rational-calculative indivual-egoist."
That's stating the obvious. If man is NOT objectively determinable, there's no way of proving (which calls for objective determination and collective addressee) anything outside one's subjective context. But not being able to prove something doesn't exist, doesn't yet prove that it exists, either. As you noticed, it all comes down to belief and subjective experience.
"Whereas if we want to believe in something else, there might be unselfishness for us as well... Love is something to be lived or better existed subjectively, not just reasoned objectively."
We who? If unselfish love is something to be experienced and appraised only subjectively (which it is, because the only type of unselfish love would be self-love), how does that transform into a collective belief? You could just as well have said: "If we want to believe in extraterrestial life or God or Santa Claus, there might be something for us." Except that we don't know. We just choose to believe so - or not.
But yes. I should have specified that I, personally, THINK that unselfishness and altruism, in their purest form, do not exist in human life. I base that argument mainly on my subjective observations and reasoning, but also on some scientific proof of human/animal behavior. Reciprocal altruism, kin/group selections or solidarity can and probably do exist, but as long as an individual mind hosts only one self, his/hers only purpose is to protect it. One may care deeply about someone, but since the feeling originates with our own minds, you can't care about someone without having already taken yourself into account - directly or indirectly, consciously or unconsciously. In order to be entirely unselfish, you would have to lose your "self". In other words, you would have to be dead.
But that's just what I believe. And after all, it's just a word. Defined by man. Could be that I've taken it too literally.
If you still remember how it's feels to be in love, if you care about someone or something, or if someone cares about you, I don't see any f*cking reason WHY you need to kill yourself...!
I don't feel nothing anymore, my last, closest person of mine kill herselves, so I have no one anymore, no friends, family, nothing. But I'm still here, living my life. Because I realise something.....
We don't live here for someone or someTHING. We live here just because ourselves, so deal with that!
If you want to kill yourself, do it, no one really cares! Everyone dies sometimes...
I will sit and wait when it's my turn.
I am thinking about suicide a lot, every day, but I will not really ment to do it, because here's just ONE me, like here's just ONE you, too!
When my mum kill herselves, I was happy that was a suicide, not an accident, because she was being badly in depressed for a looong time...I understood her. I think your friends or 'whatever' understand you too...With time...IF you think to do something...
So...I don't really understand why the hell you open up in here?? Go, and live your life.! Because you still have one,I think. You can still feel, right!? What a depression is that ?!
My emotions are dead, because this depression, what is last for a ten years now. But, life is ruff, and I can still smile if I want to, even this life sucks. No one can't take this smile off my face.
So, be a weak, if you want to, that's your lost, not your friends...
Death is ugly thing anyway so...it's not a matter how you gonna do it.