Tahalle!
Keskustelun ulkopuolista asiaa!
Onko Al-Qiyas (analogia) ja Ijma hyväksyttäviä lähteitä?
Jos ovat niin tässä sinullejonkinalainen vastaus siitä
Sheikh Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdullah remarks that legists classify non-Muslims or infidels into two categories: Dar-ul-Harb or the household of War, which refers to non-Muslims who are not bound by a peace treaty, or covenant, and whose blood and property are not protected by the law of vendetta or retaliation; and Dar-us-Salam or the household of Peace, which refers to those who fall into three classifications:
1)
Zimmis (those in custody) are non-Muslim subjects who live in Muslim countries and agree to pay the Jizya (tribute) in exchange for protection and safety, and to be subject to Islamic law. These enjoy a permanent covenant.
2)
People of the Hudna (truce) are those who sign a peace treaty with Muslims after being defeated in war. They agree to reside in their own land, yet to be subject to the legal jurisprudence of Islam like Zimmis, provided they do not wage war against Muslims.
3)
Musta'min (protected one) are persons who come to an Islamic country as messengers, merchants, visitors, or student wanting to learn about Islam. A Musta'min should not wage war against Muslims and he is not obliged to pay Jizya, but he would be urged to embrace Islam. If a Musta'min does not accept Islam, he is allowed to return safely to his own country. Muslims are forbidden to hurt him in any way. When he is back in his own homeland, he is treated as one who belongs to the Household of War.
[an-Nisa' 4:144]
O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your
friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah
a clear warrant against you ?
This verse clarifies the fact that a true Muslim can never be a friend of a person of another faith. People who believe otherwise are under delusion.
[at-Taubah 9:29]
Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam)
till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the
hand of humility.
This verse in Quran gave birth to the law that all non muslims living in an Islamic state have to pay the jiziya or poll tax for the privilege of being there. These people are called zimmis and are allowed to live and work in the Islamic lands under the following 20 disabilities: (one has to wonder if apartheid was derived from this)
1. They are not to build any new places of worship.
2. They are not to repair any old places of worship which have been destroyed by the muslims.
3. They are not to prevent muslim travellers from staying in their places of worship.
4. They are to entertain for 3 days any Muslim who wants to stay in their homes and for a longer period if the muslim falls ill.
5. They are not to harbor any hostility or give aid and comfort to hostile elements.
6. They are not to prevent any one of them from getting converted to Islam.
7. They have to show respect to every Muslim.
8. They have to allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings.
9. They are not to dress like muslims.
10. They are not to name themselves with Muslim names.
11. They are not to ride on horses with saddle and bridle.
12. They are not to possess arms.
13. They are not to wear signet or seals on their fingers.
14. They are not to sell or drink liquor openly.
15. They are to wear a distinctive dress which shows their inferior status and separates them from Muslims.
16. They are not to propagate their custom and usages among the muslims.
17. They are not to build their houses in the neighbourhood of muslims.
18. They are not to bring their dead near the graveyards of the muslims.
19. They are not to observe their religious practices publicly or mourn their dead loudly.
20. They are not to buy muslim slaves.
Jizya
Jizya tarkoittaa sananmukaisesti tuomiota. Se on määrätty ei muslimeille, joka vahvistaa heidän alamaisasemansa islamilaisessa valtiossa! Jizya on eräänlainen pilkka ja alistamismenetelmä koska Zimmejä yms ei muslimeita ei pidetä islamialsen valtion asukkaina vaikka he ovat useimmiten alkuperäisasukkaita!
Lue Sheikhki `Abdulla Mustafa Al-Muraghin kirja The Islamic Law Pertaining to non-Muslims, jossa kerrotaan asiasta tarkemmin! kirjassa myös kerrotaan että jizya automaattisesti loppuu kun zimmi kääntyy islamiin tai kuolee!
Löysin tälläisen jutun netistä
Sheik Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdulla summarizes the purpose of the Jizya. He says, quoting Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, that the Jizya is enacted:
"...to spare the blood (of the Zimmis), to be a symbol of humiliation of the infidels and as an insult and punishment to them, and as the Shafi`ites indicate, the Jizya is offered in exchange for residing in an Islamic country." Thus Ibn Qayyim adds, "Since the entire religion belongs to God, it aims at humiliating ungodliness and its followers, and insulting them. Imposing the Jizya on the followers of ungodliness and oppressing them is required by God's religion. The Qur'anic text hints at this meaning when it says: `until they give the tribute by force with humiliation.' (Qur'an 9:29). What contradicts this is leaving the infidels to enjoy their might and practice their religion as they wish so that they would have power and authority."
Keskustelun ulkopuolista asiaa!
Onko Al-Qiyas (analogia) ja Ijma hyväksyttäviä lähteitä?
Jos ovat niin tässä sinullejonkinalainen vastaus siitä
Sheikh Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdullah remarks that legists classify non-Muslims or infidels into two categories: Dar-ul-Harb or the household of War, which refers to non-Muslims who are not bound by a peace treaty, or covenant, and whose blood and property are not protected by the law of vendetta or retaliation; and Dar-us-Salam or the household of Peace, which refers to those who fall into three classifications:
1)
Zimmis (those in custody) are non-Muslim subjects who live in Muslim countries and agree to pay the Jizya (tribute) in exchange for protection and safety, and to be subject to Islamic law. These enjoy a permanent covenant.
2)
People of the Hudna (truce) are those who sign a peace treaty with Muslims after being defeated in war. They agree to reside in their own land, yet to be subject to the legal jurisprudence of Islam like Zimmis, provided they do not wage war against Muslims.
3)
Musta'min (protected one) are persons who come to an Islamic country as messengers, merchants, visitors, or student wanting to learn about Islam. A Musta'min should not wage war against Muslims and he is not obliged to pay Jizya, but he would be urged to embrace Islam. If a Musta'min does not accept Islam, he is allowed to return safely to his own country. Muslims are forbidden to hurt him in any way. When he is back in his own homeland, he is treated as one who belongs to the Household of War.
[an-Nisa' 4:144]
O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your
friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah
a clear warrant against you ?
This verse clarifies the fact that a true Muslim can never be a friend of a person of another faith. People who believe otherwise are under delusion.
[at-Taubah 9:29]
Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam)
till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the
hand of humility.
This verse in Quran gave birth to the law that all non muslims living in an Islamic state have to pay the jiziya or poll tax for the privilege of being there. These people are called zimmis and are allowed to live and work in the Islamic lands under the following 20 disabilities: (one has to wonder if apartheid was derived from this)
1. They are not to build any new places of worship.
2. They are not to repair any old places of worship which have been destroyed by the muslims.
3. They are not to prevent muslim travellers from staying in their places of worship.
4. They are to entertain for 3 days any Muslim who wants to stay in their homes and for a longer period if the muslim falls ill.
5. They are not to harbor any hostility or give aid and comfort to hostile elements.
6. They are not to prevent any one of them from getting converted to Islam.
7. They have to show respect to every Muslim.
8. They have to allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings.
9. They are not to dress like muslims.
10. They are not to name themselves with Muslim names.
11. They are not to ride on horses with saddle and bridle.
12. They are not to possess arms.
13. They are not to wear signet or seals on their fingers.
14. They are not to sell or drink liquor openly.
15. They are to wear a distinctive dress which shows their inferior status and separates them from Muslims.
16. They are not to propagate their custom and usages among the muslims.
17. They are not to build their houses in the neighbourhood of muslims.
18. They are not to bring their dead near the graveyards of the muslims.
19. They are not to observe their religious practices publicly or mourn their dead loudly.
20. They are not to buy muslim slaves.
Jizya
Jizya tarkoittaa sananmukaisesti tuomiota. Se on määrätty ei muslimeille, joka vahvistaa heidän alamaisasemansa islamilaisessa valtiossa! Jizya on eräänlainen pilkka ja alistamismenetelmä koska Zimmejä yms ei muslimeita ei pidetä islamialsen valtion asukkaina vaikka he ovat useimmiten alkuperäisasukkaita!
Lue Sheikhki `Abdulla Mustafa Al-Muraghin kirja The Islamic Law Pertaining to non-Muslims, jossa kerrotaan asiasta tarkemmin! kirjassa myös kerrotaan että jizya automaattisesti loppuu kun zimmi kääntyy islamiin tai kuolee!
Löysin tälläisen jutun netistä
Sheik Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdulla summarizes the purpose of the Jizya. He says, quoting Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, that the Jizya is enacted:
"...to spare the blood (of the Zimmis), to be a symbol of humiliation of the infidels and as an insult and punishment to them, and as the Shafi`ites indicate, the Jizya is offered in exchange for residing in an Islamic country." Thus Ibn Qayyim adds, "Since the entire religion belongs to God, it aims at humiliating ungodliness and its followers, and insulting them. Imposing the Jizya on the followers of ungodliness and oppressing them is required by God's religion. The Qur'anic text hints at this meaning when it says: `until they give the tribute by force with humiliation.' (Qur'an 9:29). What contradicts this is leaving the infidels to enjoy their might and practice their religion as they wish so that they would have power and authority."
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Vanhimmat
>Onko Al-Qiyas (analogia) ja Ijma hyväksyttäviä lähteitä?
On. On myös hyvä muistaa, että tällöin aletaan lähestyä mielipidettä.
>Jos ovat niin tässä sinullejonkinalainen vastaus siitä
Siis mistä?
Se edellinen oli vastaus niihin kysymyksiisi!
Voitaisiinko kiristää tahtia! Otetataan kolminaisuus koraanin argumenttien valossa mukaan peliin toiseksi aiheeksi!
Otetaan aihe käsittelyyn nyt yleisellä menetelmällä ja kun se käsitellään niin sitten se erityinen menetelmä!
Yleinen menetelmä!
Yleinen menetelmä, eli osoittaa olevan mahdotonta Allahille ottaa Itselleen poika, riippumatta siitä oletetaanko pojan olevan 'Isa [=Jeesus] tai joku muu.
Ensimmäinen menetelmä: Mikä on poikuuden ja syntymän olemus? Mitä nämä sanat todella tarkoittavat? Elävä, aineellinen asia (kuten ihminen, eläin tai kasvi) erottaa itsestään osan omaa materiaansa, sitten vähitellen kehittää sitä, kunnes siitä tulee toinen saman lajin yksilö, joka on samankaltainen vanhempiensa kanssa; jälkeläisellä on samat ominaisuudet ja piirteet kuin vanhempien ruumiilla oli. Eläin erottaa siemennesteen ruumiistaan, ja kasvi irrottaa siemenen itsestään, sitten se suojelee ja kasvattaa siemennesteen tai siemenen vähitellen kunnes siitä tulee toinen eläin tai kasvi, joka on samankaltainen vanhempiensa kanssa. Tämä on, mitä poikuus ja syntymä tarkoittavat. Ei ole mikään salaisuus, että sellainen asia on mahdotonta Allahille:
Ensimmäiseksi: Koska se tarvitsee fyysisen, aineellisen ruumiin; ja Allah on kaukana aineellisen ja siihen liittyvien asioiden - mitä ilman aine ei voi olla olemassa kuten liike, aika, tila ja muut sellaiset asiat - yläpuolella.
Toiseksi: Allahille kuuluu ehdoton Jumaluus ja Herruus; joten Hänellä on Kädessään ehdoton valta ja hallinta kaikissa asioissa. Kaikki asiat tarvitsevat Häntä tuomaan itsensä olemassaoloon, ja luottavat Häneen sen jatkumiseksi. On mahdotonta kuvitella Allahille samankaltaista asiaa "lajeissa" - asiaa, jolla olisi yhtäläisyys, ominaisuudet ja piirteet, jotka ovat samankaltaisia Allahille ja itsenäisiä Hänestä.
Kolmanneksi: Jos Allah voisi syntyä tai synnyttää pojan, se johtaisi Allahin tekojen vähittäisyyteen. Toisin sanoen, Häntä hallittaisiin aineen ja liikkeen laeilla; ja se on mahdottomuus, koska mitä tahansa tapahtuu Hänen Tahdostaan tulee olemassaoloon kerralla ilman viivettä, ilman vähittäisyyttä.
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