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Eli uusi A4 on toki vanhaa parempi (ei mikään iso meriitti) mutta jää kauas 300-sarjasta ja jopa Mondeosta:

No question, this A4 is an improvement over the old in terms of engine refinement, ride, handling, packaging, fuel economy and feature availability. Yet it’s hard to avoid concluding that this car is not enough of a step forward over the old A4, especially as Audi has gone to the expense of developing a new platform for it.

It is not good enough to topple the 3-series, and in many respects, such as its driving position, handling and the weighting of its controls, it is inferior to the cheaper Ford Mondeo.


http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/RoadTestsVerdict/Audi-A4-2.0-TDI-SE/231230/
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niin myös Fordille.

Testilinkkejä on tälläkin palstalla yllin kyllin.

Mutta kaunis auto se on. Siitä ei pääse mihinkään. Ja onhan siinä aimo annos mielikuvalaatua, vaikka oikea premium-laatu puuttuukin.

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  • bemarin vertailuissa...

    Etsi itse linkin jos kiinnostaa...

    Äänestä

  • mersun ja kirjoitti:

    bemarin vertailuissa...

    Etsi itse linkin jos kiinnostaa...

    BMW:n ja MB:n.

    Siinä premiumia kolmin kappalein kerrakseen.

    HA HA HA HA HA HA AHHHAAAHHAAA!!!! MUHAHA!!!

    Ja todisteet alla:

    Auto motor und sport 16/2008, Saksa

    1. Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI, 489 p.
    2. Volkswagen Passat 1.8 TSI, 463 p.
    3. Honda Accord 2.0, 433 p.


    Auto Bild -lehti on koonnut tulokset kaikista tekemistään keskikokoisten perheautojen vertailuista. Listalla on loppupisteiden mukaisessa järjestyksessä 37 autoa useista eri vertailutesteistä. -------------------------------------

    Auto Bild 10/2008, Saksa

    1. Škoda Octavia 1.8 TSI Ambiente, 500 p.
    2. Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Trendline, 492 p.
    2. Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi Trendline, 491 p.
    4. Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Trendline, 489 p.
    4. Volkswagen Passat 1.8 TSI Trendline, 489 p.
    5. Audi 2.0 TDI Ambition, 487 p.

    Äänestä

  • Voittanut AUDIN, kirjoitti:

    BMW:n ja MB:n.

    Siinä premiumia kolmin kappalein kerrakseen.

    HA HA HA HA HA HA AHHHAAAHHAAA!!!! MUHAHA!!!

    Ja todisteet alla:

    Auto motor und sport 16/2008, Saksa

    1. Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI, 489 p.
    2. Volkswagen Passat 1.8 TSI, 463 p.
    3. Honda Accord 2.0, 433 p.


    Auto Bild -lehti on koonnut tulokset kaikista tekemistään keskikokoisten perheautojen vertailuista. Listalla on loppupisteiden mukaisessa järjestyksessä 37 autoa useista eri vertailutesteistä. -------------------------------------

    Auto Bild 10/2008, Saksa

    1. Škoda Octavia 1.8 TSI Ambiente, 500 p.
    2. Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Trendline, 492 p.
    2. Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi Trendline, 491 p.
    4. Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Trendline, 489 p.
    4. Volkswagen Passat 1.8 TSI Trendline, 489 p.
    5. Audi 2.0 TDI Ambition, 487 p.

    kerran, Volkswagen AG rakentaa maailman parhaimmat autot kuten kokoelmasi kertoi.

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  • Voittanut AUDIN, kirjoitti:

    BMW:n ja MB:n.

    Siinä premiumia kolmin kappalein kerrakseen.

    HA HA HA HA HA HA AHHHAAAHHAAA!!!! MUHAHA!!!

    Ja todisteet alla:

    Auto motor und sport 16/2008, Saksa

    1. Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI, 489 p.
    2. Volkswagen Passat 1.8 TSI, 463 p.
    3. Honda Accord 2.0, 433 p.


    Auto Bild -lehti on koonnut tulokset kaikista tekemistään keskikokoisten perheautojen vertailuista. Listalla on loppupisteiden mukaisessa järjestyksessä 37 autoa useista eri vertailutesteistä. -------------------------------------

    Auto Bild 10/2008, Saksa

    1. Škoda Octavia 1.8 TSI Ambiente, 500 p.
    2. Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Trendline, 492 p.
    2. Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi Trendline, 491 p.
    4. Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Trendline, 489 p.
    4. Volkswagen Passat 1.8 TSI Trendline, 489 p.
    5. Audi 2.0 TDI Ambition, 487 p.

    Mistä on tekstinsä lainannut...

    http://www.skoda.fi/press/octavia_vertailut.php

    Äänestä

  • väärennettyjä,

    1.A4
    2.ALFA 159

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/alfa-romeo-159-sportwagon-gegen-audi-a4-avant-753645.html

    1.A3
    2.BMW 118d

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a3-2-0-tdi-und-bmw-118d-mensch-bayer-753520.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C180t
    3.BMW 320i T

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/a4-3er-und-c-klasse-kombi-nation-752419.html

    1.A3
    2.BMW 120i cabrio

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a3-cabrio-bmw-1er-da-ist-der-sturm-drin-752337.html

    1.TT
    2.Mercedes SLK 200
    3.bmw Z4 2.5Si

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-tt-bmw-z4-mercedes-slk-drei-roadster-im-vergleich-752322.html

    1.A5
    2.Peugeot 407 Coupe

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a5-peugeot-407-strahlen-bitte-752955.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C320 4matic

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/a4-3-0-tdi-quattro-vs-c320-cdi-4matic-winter-paerchen-752163.html

    Ja paras testi kaikista,
    1.A4
    2.VW Passat 1.8TSI
    3.Mercedes C180K
    4.Ford Mondeo 2.0
    5.BMW 318i
    6.Renault Laguna 2.0
    7.Mazda 6 2.0
    8.Opel Vectra 2.2
    9.Saab 9-3 1.8T
    10.Peugeot 407 2.0
    11.Crysler Sebring 2.0

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/master-test-elf-mittelklasse-limos-752218.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C200d
    3.BMW 318d

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/basis-diesel-a4-gegen-3er-und-c-klasse-752134.html

    1.Q7
    2.Mercedes GL 420cdi

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/mercedes-gl-und-audi-q7-raedchen-fuer-alles-751591.html

    1.A3
    2.Toyota Auris 2.2D

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/toyota-auris-gegen-audi-a3-dampf-ansage-754698.html

    Näin aluksi...Ja täysin AutoBild-vapaana...

    Audi ylivoimaa!

    Äänestä

  • sitten varmaan kirjoitti:

    väärennettyjä,

    1.A4
    2.ALFA 159

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/alfa-romeo-159-sportwagon-gegen-audi-a4-avant-753645.html

    1.A3
    2.BMW 118d

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a3-2-0-tdi-und-bmw-118d-mensch-bayer-753520.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C180t
    3.BMW 320i T

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/a4-3er-und-c-klasse-kombi-nation-752419.html

    1.A3
    2.BMW 120i cabrio

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a3-cabrio-bmw-1er-da-ist-der-sturm-drin-752337.html

    1.TT
    2.Mercedes SLK 200
    3.bmw Z4 2.5Si

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-tt-bmw-z4-mercedes-slk-drei-roadster-im-vergleich-752322.html

    1.A5
    2.Peugeot 407 Coupe

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a5-peugeot-407-strahlen-bitte-752955.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C320 4matic

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/a4-3-0-tdi-quattro-vs-c320-cdi-4matic-winter-paerchen-752163.html

    Ja paras testi kaikista,
    1.A4
    2.VW Passat 1.8TSI
    3.Mercedes C180K
    4.Ford Mondeo 2.0
    5.BMW 318i
    6.Renault Laguna 2.0
    7.Mazda 6 2.0
    8.Opel Vectra 2.2
    9.Saab 9-3 1.8T
    10.Peugeot 407 2.0
    11.Crysler Sebring 2.0

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/master-test-elf-mittelklasse-limos-752218.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C200d
    3.BMW 318d

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/basis-diesel-a4-gegen-3er-und-c-klasse-752134.html

    1.Q7
    2.Mercedes GL 420cdi

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/mercedes-gl-und-audi-q7-raedchen-fuer-alles-751591.html

    1.A3
    2.Toyota Auris 2.2D

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/toyota-auris-gegen-audi-a3-dampf-ansage-754698.html

    Näin aluksi...Ja täysin AutoBild-vapaana...

    Audi ylivoimaa!

    joka kääntää saksasta suomeksi:

    auto-motor-und-sport = Vagniikan Maailma

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  • käännöskoneesta kirjoitti:

    joka kääntää saksasta suomeksi:

    auto-motor-und-sport = Vagniikan Maailma

    Pösilönuoriso ei osaa saksaa.

    Äänestä

  • sitten varmaan kirjoitti:

    väärennettyjä,

    1.A4
    2.ALFA 159

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/alfa-romeo-159-sportwagon-gegen-audi-a4-avant-753645.html

    1.A3
    2.BMW 118d

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a3-2-0-tdi-und-bmw-118d-mensch-bayer-753520.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C180t
    3.BMW 320i T

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/a4-3er-und-c-klasse-kombi-nation-752419.html

    1.A3
    2.BMW 120i cabrio

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a3-cabrio-bmw-1er-da-ist-der-sturm-drin-752337.html

    1.TT
    2.Mercedes SLK 200
    3.bmw Z4 2.5Si

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-tt-bmw-z4-mercedes-slk-drei-roadster-im-vergleich-752322.html

    1.A5
    2.Peugeot 407 Coupe

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/audi-a5-peugeot-407-strahlen-bitte-752955.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C320 4matic

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/a4-3-0-tdi-quattro-vs-c320-cdi-4matic-winter-paerchen-752163.html

    Ja paras testi kaikista,
    1.A4
    2.VW Passat 1.8TSI
    3.Mercedes C180K
    4.Ford Mondeo 2.0
    5.BMW 318i
    6.Renault Laguna 2.0
    7.Mazda 6 2.0
    8.Opel Vectra 2.2
    9.Saab 9-3 1.8T
    10.Peugeot 407 2.0
    11.Crysler Sebring 2.0

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/master-test-elf-mittelklasse-limos-752218.html

    1.A4
    2.Mercedes C200d
    3.BMW 318d

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/basis-diesel-a4-gegen-3er-und-c-klasse-752134.html

    1.Q7
    2.Mercedes GL 420cdi

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/mercedes-gl-und-audi-q7-raedchen-fuer-alles-751591.html

    1.A3
    2.Toyota Auris 2.2D

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/vergleichstest/toyota-auris-gegen-audi-a3-dampf-ansage-754698.html

    Näin aluksi...Ja täysin AutoBild-vapaana...

    Audi ylivoimaa!

    A4 still can't quite match the all-conquering 3-series in terms of raw dynamic appeal. There's plenty of grip to exploit, but messages through the steering wheel about how close you're getting to the limits feel muted.

    Audi A4 – Fifth Gear

    ---

    But it was the handling that disappointed us the most. Absolutely wonderful up to about eight-tenths – the car hanging on superbly on good or bad surfaces alike – the Audi feels ponderously nose-heavy when you go that extra step. Despite the standard stability control, the S4 doesn’t do anything but understeer once the grip limits have been breached. And understeer a surprising amount, too. There is little throttle control – the chassis is as wooden as the steering - and all that you can do is reduce the throttle opening to allow front-end grip to be re-established.

    Audi S4 – AutoSpeed

    ---

    But throw a few tight turns and some committed cornering into the equation and the Cabriolet comes over all whale-like. The steering is typically Audi - stodgy and lifeless - and the chassis has only one party trick; terminal understeer.

    Audi A4 Cabriolet V6 – Evo

    ---

    An experienced driver will find typical Audi understeer at the limit.

    Audi S4 Cabriolet - Straight Six.com

    ---

    Keen drivers will be disappointed by the lifeless steering.

    Audi A6 - What Car?

    ---

    The Audi is a letdown with its lifeless steering and excessive understeer at the limit. The A8L does not match the Maserati's level of roadholding, nor is it as entertaining.

    Audi A8L - Automobile Magazine

    ---

    The Audi TT has never quite hit the spot. It's quick, grippy and has a chunky, high-quality appeal, but the heavy, lifeless steering, understeery balance and effective but charisma-free 1.8-litre turbocharged engine have always marked it down as an also-ran for those who put dynamics ahead of prestige. Even the more sonorous 3.2 V6 TT doesn't quite live up to the promise of its billing as a compact, driver-focused, 250bhp, four-wheel-drive coupe.

    Audi TT - evo

    ---

    I've driven fast Audis before, and I've always been impressed by the amount of grunt available, and the way it's so easy to reach license-threatening speeds.

    But I've also found as drivers' cars, they usually fall wide of the mark with lifeless steering and lacking the involvement you get with the BMW M3.

    Audi RS4 - AutoTrader -

    ---

    Unfortunately, all of these are slightly blunted by Audi’s fabulously precise but lifeless steering.

    While it weighs up nicely going into corners and feels really sharp, it doesn’t give you a clue about how much grip you’ve got left.

    Audi A3 - Star Motoring

    ---

    however the Audi features quattro four-wheel-drive - making it a grippy contender. That doesn’t translate to the most rewarding drive here though, for while the Audi is undoubtedly swift and accomplished, it all feels a bit detached and clinical on the road.

    Audi A3 - MSN cars

    ---


    Should I buy one?

    The S5’s case takes a bit of a dive when it comes to money. Nice although it is, it’s going to have serious difficulty justifying itself next to the considerably cheaper BMW 335i Coupe, which is almost as fast, far more practical and still better to drive.
    Buyers looking for value will therefore have to cast their eyes further down the A5 range; those looking for the best driving coupe of this size, on the other hand, need look no further than the alternative offered by Audi's old Munich rival.

    Audi A5 - Autocar

    ---



    Assets
    Quality and solidity, sumptuous cabin, big boot, gutsy 3.0 TDI engine, effective Multitronic transmission.

    Drawbacks
    Feels nose heavy despite new chassis design, unresolved styling, poor rear-seat room.

    Verdict
    Lacks a clear personality. Competent in many ways but could have been so much better.

    Audi A6 - 4 Car from channel 4

    ---


    To the traditional constituency of Audi fashionistas I imagine it will prove to be a very appealing product.

    But what I cannot see it doing is persuading those to whom driving pleasure matters very much to forsake their BMWs for it. A 335i coupé is perhaps a little slower, but only a fool presumes that speed and fun are always the same.

    Audi S5 – The Times
    ---


    And so the A5 is indeed a good drive.

    But it lacks the sparkle that all these smiling men should have given it.
    Design first: yes, there are some great details (get those magical LED running lights, like luminous mascara). But it looks like it's sagging in the middle, and the big ol' Audi grille still doesn't do it for me.

    Engines: yup, mark those up to a win. The V6 feels like has deeper lungs than a BMW three-litre, and it's a lot smoother than Merc's V6. The V6 diesel is a bit of a triumph too.

    And the chassis has nice accurate new steering. But all-new layout or not, the A5 corners like an old-school Audi. Gentle but unavoidable understeer, little sense of fun, no tweakability at the limit. Audi keeps telling us they make sporty cars, but in the chassis department, they don't really. Fast, easy to drive hard, but not inspiring.

    So put Walter's Latin emotion on hold. This is still a bit of a po-faced car.

    Audi A5 – Top Gear

    ---

    Unfortunately the TT's steering is lacking in any real feel, in an attempt to isolate feedback no doubt, but it is well weighted. Driven hard, the TT is a good companion, with good body and wheel control, and it is not too uncomfortable either. The structure didn't feel as rigid as in the Nissan 350Z (though that car has a rear strut brace where passengers might sit), and the TT certainly doesn't provide the same pure driving experience a rear-wheel drive car can.

    Audi TT - www.carenthusisast.com


    ---

    Even with a 4.2 litre 450bhp twin-turbo V8 it can’t match more charismatic offerings from BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes. But don’t dismiss the Audi, being bland is not the same as being bad. The A6 is not a bad car.

    Putting a 4.2 litre V8 in a car this size should be a recipe for fun but the extra weight and the lifeless steering conspire to produce a car that is less than the sum of its parts.

    Audi A6 - The Times online

    ---

    No question, this A4 is an improvement over the old in terms of engine refinement, ride, handling, packaging, fuel economy and feature availability. Yet it’s hard to avoid concluding that this car is not enough of a step forward over the old A4, especially as Audi has gone to the expense of developing a new platform for it.

    It is not good enough to topple the 3-series, and in many respects, such as its driving position, handling and the weighting of its controls, it is inferior to the cheaper Ford Mondeo.

    Audi A4 - Autocar

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  • nämä sitten: kirjoitti:

    A4 still can't quite match the all-conquering 3-series in terms of raw dynamic appeal. There's plenty of grip to exploit, but messages through the steering wheel about how close you're getting to the limits feel muted.

    Audi A4 – Fifth Gear

    ---

    But it was the handling that disappointed us the most. Absolutely wonderful up to about eight-tenths – the car hanging on superbly on good or bad surfaces alike – the Audi feels ponderously nose-heavy when you go that extra step. Despite the standard stability control, the S4 doesn’t do anything but understeer once the grip limits have been breached. And understeer a surprising amount, too. There is little throttle control – the chassis is as wooden as the steering - and all that you can do is reduce the throttle opening to allow front-end grip to be re-established.

    Audi S4 – AutoSpeed

    ---

    But throw a few tight turns and some committed cornering into the equation and the Cabriolet comes over all whale-like. The steering is typically Audi - stodgy and lifeless - and the chassis has only one party trick; terminal understeer.

    Audi A4 Cabriolet V6 – Evo

    ---

    An experienced driver will find typical Audi understeer at the limit.

    Audi S4 Cabriolet - Straight Six.com

    ---

    Keen drivers will be disappointed by the lifeless steering.

    Audi A6 - What Car?

    ---

    The Audi is a letdown with its lifeless steering and excessive understeer at the limit. The A8L does not match the Maserati's level of roadholding, nor is it as entertaining.

    Audi A8L - Automobile Magazine

    ---

    The Audi TT has never quite hit the spot. It's quick, grippy and has a chunky, high-quality appeal, but the heavy, lifeless steering, understeery balance and effective but charisma-free 1.8-litre turbocharged engine have always marked it down as an also-ran for those who put dynamics ahead of prestige. Even the more sonorous 3.2 V6 TT doesn't quite live up to the promise of its billing as a compact, driver-focused, 250bhp, four-wheel-drive coupe.

    Audi TT - evo

    ---

    I've driven fast Audis before, and I've always been impressed by the amount of grunt available, and the way it's so easy to reach license-threatening speeds.

    But I've also found as drivers' cars, they usually fall wide of the mark with lifeless steering and lacking the involvement you get with the BMW M3.

    Audi RS4 - AutoTrader -

    ---

    Unfortunately, all of these are slightly blunted by Audi’s fabulously precise but lifeless steering.

    While it weighs up nicely going into corners and feels really sharp, it doesn’t give you a clue about how much grip you’ve got left.

    Audi A3 - Star Motoring

    ---

    however the Audi features quattro four-wheel-drive - making it a grippy contender. That doesn’t translate to the most rewarding drive here though, for while the Audi is undoubtedly swift and accomplished, it all feels a bit detached and clinical on the road.

    Audi A3 - MSN cars

    ---


    Should I buy one?

    The S5’s case takes a bit of a dive when it comes to money. Nice although it is, it’s going to have serious difficulty justifying itself next to the considerably cheaper BMW 335i Coupe, which is almost as fast, far more practical and still better to drive.
    Buyers looking for value will therefore have to cast their eyes further down the A5 range; those looking for the best driving coupe of this size, on the other hand, need look no further than the alternative offered by Audi's old Munich rival.

    Audi A5 - Autocar

    ---



    Assets
    Quality and solidity, sumptuous cabin, big boot, gutsy 3.0 TDI engine, effective Multitronic transmission.

    Drawbacks
    Feels nose heavy despite new chassis design, unresolved styling, poor rear-seat room.

    Verdict
    Lacks a clear personality. Competent in many ways but could have been so much better.

    Audi A6 - 4 Car from channel 4

    ---


    To the traditional constituency of Audi fashionistas I imagine it will prove to be a very appealing product.

    But what I cannot see it doing is persuading those to whom driving pleasure matters very much to forsake their BMWs for it. A 335i coupé is perhaps a little slower, but only a fool presumes that speed and fun are always the same.

    Audi S5 – The Times
    ---


    And so the A5 is indeed a good drive.

    But it lacks the sparkle that all these smiling men should have given it.
    Design first: yes, there are some great details (get those magical LED running lights, like luminous mascara). But it looks like it's sagging in the middle, and the big ol' Audi grille still doesn't do it for me.

    Engines: yup, mark those up to a win. The V6 feels like has deeper lungs than a BMW three-litre, and it's a lot smoother than Merc's V6. The V6 diesel is a bit of a triumph too.

    And the chassis has nice accurate new steering. But all-new layout or not, the A5 corners like an old-school Audi. Gentle but unavoidable understeer, little sense of fun, no tweakability at the limit. Audi keeps telling us they make sporty cars, but in the chassis department, they don't really. Fast, easy to drive hard, but not inspiring.

    So put Walter's Latin emotion on hold. This is still a bit of a po-faced car.

    Audi A5 – Top Gear

    ---

    Unfortunately the TT's steering is lacking in any real feel, in an attempt to isolate feedback no doubt, but it is well weighted. Driven hard, the TT is a good companion, with good body and wheel control, and it is not too uncomfortable either. The structure didn't feel as rigid as in the Nissan 350Z (though that car has a rear strut brace where passengers might sit), and the TT certainly doesn't provide the same pure driving experience a rear-wheel drive car can.

    Audi TT - www.carenthusisast.com


    ---

    Even with a 4.2 litre 450bhp twin-turbo V8 it can’t match more charismatic offerings from BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes. But don’t dismiss the Audi, being bland is not the same as being bad. The A6 is not a bad car.

    Putting a 4.2 litre V8 in a car this size should be a recipe for fun but the extra weight and the lifeless steering conspire to produce a car that is less than the sum of its parts.

    Audi A6 - The Times online

    ---

    No question, this A4 is an improvement over the old in terms of engine refinement, ride, handling, packaging, fuel economy and feature availability. Yet it’s hard to avoid concluding that this car is not enough of a step forward over the old A4, especially as Audi has gone to the expense of developing a new platform for it.

    It is not good enough to topple the 3-series, and in many respects, such as its driving position, handling and the weighting of its controls, it is inferior to the cheaper Ford Mondeo.

    Audi A4 - Autocar

    Joku on laittanut hirveesti velkarahaa kiinni johonkin A4-romuun (kallis volski) ja nyt sinä sitten masennat häntä.

    Ei se ole sinulta mitään pois, jos joku luulottelee ajavansa arvostetulla, hyvällä, premiumautolla.

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  • Suomen... kirjoitti:

    Pösilönuoriso ei osaa saksaa.

    ongelma onkin. Kun ei pää eikä asenne riitä niin etsitään sitten epätoivoisesti "käännöskoneita" On muuten tosi köyhää ja avutonta.

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  • nämä sitten: kirjoitti:

    A4 still can't quite match the all-conquering 3-series in terms of raw dynamic appeal. There's plenty of grip to exploit, but messages through the steering wheel about how close you're getting to the limits feel muted.

    Audi A4 – Fifth Gear

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    But it was the handling that disappointed us the most. Absolutely wonderful up to about eight-tenths – the car hanging on superbly on good or bad surfaces alike – the Audi feels ponderously nose-heavy when you go that extra step. Despite the standard stability control, the S4 doesn’t do anything but understeer once the grip limits have been breached. And understeer a surprising amount, too. There is little throttle control – the chassis is as wooden as the steering - and all that you can do is reduce the throttle opening to allow front-end grip to be re-established.

    Audi S4 – AutoSpeed

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    But throw a few tight turns and some committed cornering into the equation and the Cabriolet comes over all whale-like. The steering is typically Audi - stodgy and lifeless - and the chassis has only one party trick; terminal understeer.

    Audi A4 Cabriolet V6 – Evo

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    An experienced driver will find typical Audi understeer at the limit.

    Audi S4 Cabriolet - Straight Six.com

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    Keen drivers will be disappointed by the lifeless steering.

    Audi A6 - What Car?

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    The Audi is a letdown with its lifeless steering and excessive understeer at the limit. The A8L does not match the Maserati's level of roadholding, nor is it as entertaining.

    Audi A8L - Automobile Magazine

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    The Audi TT has never quite hit the spot. It's quick, grippy and has a chunky, high-quality appeal, but the heavy, lifeless steering, understeery balance and effective but charisma-free 1.8-litre turbocharged engine have always marked it down as an also-ran for those who put dynamics ahead of prestige. Even the more sonorous 3.2 V6 TT doesn't quite live up to the promise of its billing as a compact, driver-focused, 250bhp, four-wheel-drive coupe.

    Audi TT - evo

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    I've driven fast Audis before, and I've always been impressed by the amount of grunt available, and the way it's so easy to reach license-threatening speeds.

    But I've also found as drivers' cars, they usually fall wide of the mark with lifeless steering and lacking the involvement you get with the BMW M3.

    Audi RS4 - AutoTrader -

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    Unfortunately, all of these are slightly blunted by Audi’s fabulously precise but lifeless steering.

    While it weighs up nicely going into corners and feels really sharp, it doesn’t give you a clue about how much grip you’ve got left.

    Audi A3 - Star Motoring

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    however the Audi features quattro four-wheel-drive - making it a grippy contender. That doesn’t translate to the most rewarding drive here though, for while the Audi is undoubtedly swift and accomplished, it all feels a bit detached and clinical on the road.

    Audi A3 - MSN cars

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    Should I buy one?

    The S5’s case takes a bit of a dive when it comes to money. Nice although it is, it’s going to have serious difficulty justifying itself next to the considerably cheaper BMW 335i Coupe, which is almost as fast, far more practical and still better to drive.
    Buyers looking for value will therefore have to cast their eyes further down the A5 range; those looking for the best driving coupe of this size, on the other hand, need look no further than the alternative offered by Audi's old Munich rival.

    Audi A5 - Autocar

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    Assets
    Quality and solidity, sumptuous cabin, big boot, gutsy 3.0 TDI engine, effective Multitronic transmission.

    Drawbacks
    Feels nose heavy despite new chassis design, unresolved styling, poor rear-seat room.

    Verdict
    Lacks a clear personality. Competent in many ways but could have been so much better.

    Audi A6 - 4 Car from channel 4

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    To the traditional constituency of Audi fashionistas I imagine it will prove to be a very appealing product.

    But what I cannot see it doing is persuading those to whom driving pleasure matters very much to forsake their BMWs for it. A 335i coupé is perhaps a little slower, but only a fool presumes that speed and fun are always the same.

    Audi S5 – The Times
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    And so the A5 is indeed a good drive.

    But it lacks the sparkle that all these smiling men should have given it.
    Design first: yes, there are some great details (get those magical LED running lights, like luminous mascara). But it looks like it's sagging in the middle, and the big ol' Audi grille still doesn't do it for me.

    Engines: yup, mark those up to a win. The V6 feels like has deeper lungs than a BMW three-litre, and it's a lot smoother than Merc's V6. The V6 diesel is a bit of a triumph too.

    And the chassis has nice accurate new steering. But all-new layout or not, the A5 corners like an old-school Audi. Gentle but unavoidable understeer, little sense of fun, no tweakability at the limit. Audi keeps telling us they make sporty cars, but in the chassis department, they don't really. Fast, easy to drive hard, but not inspiring.

    So put Walter's Latin emotion on hold. This is still a bit of a po-faced car.

    Audi A5 – Top Gear

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    Unfortunately the TT's steering is lacking in any real feel, in an attempt to isolate feedback no doubt, but it is well weighted. Driven hard, the TT is a good companion, with good body and wheel control, and it is not too uncomfortable either. The structure didn't feel as rigid as in the Nissan 350Z (though that car has a rear strut brace where passengers might sit), and the TT certainly doesn't provide the same pure driving experience a rear-wheel drive car can.

    Audi TT - www.carenthusisast.com


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    Even with a 4.2 litre 450bhp twin-turbo V8 it can’t match more charismatic offerings from BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes. But don’t dismiss the Audi, being bland is not the same as being bad. The A6 is not a bad car.

    Putting a 4.2 litre V8 in a car this size should be a recipe for fun but the extra weight and the lifeless steering conspire to produce a car that is less than the sum of its parts.

    Audi A6 - The Times online

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    No question, this A4 is an improvement over the old in terms of engine refinement, ride, handling, packaging, fuel economy and feature availability. Yet it’s hard to avoid concluding that this car is not enough of a step forward over the old A4, especially as Audi has gone to the expense of developing a new platform for it.

    It is not good enough to topple the 3-series, and in many respects, such as its driving position, handling and the weighting of its controls, it is inferior to the cheaper Ford Mondeo.

    Audi A4 - Autocar

    Heh heh! Sori pojat, naurattaa!

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A4. kirjoitti:

Eli uusi A4 on toki vanhaa parempi (ei mikään iso meriitti) mutta jää kauas 300-sarjasta ja jopa Mondeosta:

No question, this A4 is an improvement over the old in terms of engine refinement, ride, handling, packaging, fuel economy and feature availability. Yet it’s hard to avoid concluding that this car is not enough of a step forward over the old A4, especially as Audi has gone to the expense of developing a new platform for it.

It is not good enough to topple the 3-series, and in many respects, such as its driving position, handling and the weighting of its controls, it is inferior to the cheaper Ford Mondeo.


http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/RoadTestsVerdict/Audi-A4-2.0-TDI-SE/231230/

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