Kun ehtisi, suomentaisin,... Juttu on sen verran kiinnostava, että laitan nyt vielä tämänkin tänne.
Kyllästyttää eräitten itsepintainen jankkaaminen että asia on joko niin tai näin. Aivan kuin joku olisi niin 'paholaisukonsa' vallassa, että ei kertakaikkiaan voi ajatella millään muulla tavalla kuin että 'Israel on paha'ja 'Palestiina hyvä', 'jompikumpi mutta ei molemmat'.
Artikkeli käsittelee myös holokausti-käsitteen väärinkäyttöä. Olkaa hyvät:
British Chief Rabbi: Holocaust is being abused - "the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is presented in the European media as a zero-sum game - so you are either pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian. That is an entirely fallacious way of looking at things."
Douglas Davis Jun. 15, 2004
"When civilizations clash, Jews die, British Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks warned on Wednesday, noting: "That is the great danger facing Israel in the 21st century."
Sacks, in a major interview with the London-based Daily Telegraph to mark the publication of his latest book, "From Optimism to Hope," complained that the Holocaust is being abused and that terms like "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" are being used "in contexts where they have no conceivable meaning."
In certain circles, he said, "the most vicious revenge" is being taken against Jews because "nobody will ever forgive the Jews for the Holocaust."
And he noted: "If Israel takes defensive action against an organizer of suicide bombings, that is called 'genocide'."
"If we have learnt two things from the Holocaust," he said, "they are, one, that bad things are preceded by demonization - and right now Israel is being demonized - and, two, the early warning sign in a culture is when words lose their meaning."
Israel is being branded "the new Nazis" and "that sets off every conceivable warning sign in my mind. There is profound anti-Zionism which goes with a profound anti-Semitism, which is fraught with danger."
And he warned that those who support Israel's neighbors in demonizing Israel "are indirectly perpetuating closed societies which deprive human beings of their rights."
Sacks said he is distressed that, "the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is presented in the European media as a zero-sum game - so you are either pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian. That is an entirely fallacious way of looking at things.
"From peace, both sides gain. From violence, both sides lose. Therefore, it is not a zero-sum game whatsoever. Those who care about the future of the Palestinians must care about the future of Israel as well, and vice versa."
And he called on the Palestinians to "let go of the nakba [the catastrophe of Israel's creation]" and "stop fighting a battle with someone who wants to be your friend."
Sacks, who was described by the paper as "Britain's most authentically prophetic voice," noted that a moral vision requires a narrative, and he warned that, "if Europe loses the plot, loses the narrative, it will not have the strength for the fight."
He revealed that former president Bill Clinton had told him that at the Camp David summit in 2000 with former prime minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, he felt that Barak had not only gone "further than he thought he would" but "further than he thought he should."
Kyllästyttää eräitten itsepintainen jankkaaminen että asia on joko niin tai näin. Aivan kuin joku olisi niin 'paholaisukonsa' vallassa, että ei kertakaikkiaan voi ajatella millään muulla tavalla kuin että 'Israel on paha'ja 'Palestiina hyvä', 'jompikumpi mutta ei molemmat'.
Artikkeli käsittelee myös holokausti-käsitteen väärinkäyttöä. Olkaa hyvät:
British Chief Rabbi: Holocaust is being abused - "the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is presented in the European media as a zero-sum game - so you are either pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian. That is an entirely fallacious way of looking at things."
Douglas Davis Jun. 15, 2004
"When civilizations clash, Jews die, British Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks warned on Wednesday, noting: "That is the great danger facing Israel in the 21st century."
Sacks, in a major interview with the London-based Daily Telegraph to mark the publication of his latest book, "From Optimism to Hope," complained that the Holocaust is being abused and that terms like "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" are being used "in contexts where they have no conceivable meaning."
In certain circles, he said, "the most vicious revenge" is being taken against Jews because "nobody will ever forgive the Jews for the Holocaust."
And he noted: "If Israel takes defensive action against an organizer of suicide bombings, that is called 'genocide'."
"If we have learnt two things from the Holocaust," he said, "they are, one, that bad things are preceded by demonization - and right now Israel is being demonized - and, two, the early warning sign in a culture is when words lose their meaning."
Israel is being branded "the new Nazis" and "that sets off every conceivable warning sign in my mind. There is profound anti-Zionism which goes with a profound anti-Semitism, which is fraught with danger."
And he warned that those who support Israel's neighbors in demonizing Israel "are indirectly perpetuating closed societies which deprive human beings of their rights."
Sacks said he is distressed that, "the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is presented in the European media as a zero-sum game - so you are either pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian. That is an entirely fallacious way of looking at things.
"From peace, both sides gain. From violence, both sides lose. Therefore, it is not a zero-sum game whatsoever. Those who care about the future of the Palestinians must care about the future of Israel as well, and vice versa."
And he called on the Palestinians to "let go of the nakba [the catastrophe of Israel's creation]" and "stop fighting a battle with someone who wants to be your friend."
Sacks, who was described by the paper as "Britain's most authentically prophetic voice," noted that a moral vision requires a narrative, and he warned that, "if Europe loses the plot, loses the narrative, it will not have the strength for the fight."
He revealed that former president Bill Clinton had told him that at the Camp David summit in 2000 with former prime minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, he felt that Barak had not only gone "further than he thought he would" but "further than he thought he should."
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on: täällä on liikaa niitä jotka eivät pysty perusteltuun keskusteluun, vaan pitävät omia asenteitaan faktoina. Toinen vastaava vihanjulistuspalsta on islam-forumi - tosin ei yhtä rasistinen. Siellä haukutaan vain islamia-ei sitä tunnustavia ihmisiä.
Todellakin, aivan kuin joku olisi niin 'paholaisukonsa' vallassa, että ei kertakaikkiaan voi ajatella millään muulla tavalla kuin että 'Israel on hyvä'ja 'Palestiina paha' tai sitten toisinpäin, 'jompikumpi mutta ei molemmat'.