KIIREELLIN​EN - Apua luottojen tarvitaan päättyy episodi!

Olen pahoillani mutta en ymmärrä! Luulen haluat selittää hieman tarkemmin?

Sillä Episode päivätty 19.10.2011 - klo 18.28, ota Voiko joku tarkistaa minun oletuksia, jotka on hyvitetty, ja täytä puuttuvat niistä? Jonkun on täytynyt muutaman minuutin tehdä tämän? Ole hyvä?!

Jospa kuitenkin kirjoittaisit omalla kielelläsi (englanti?) niin joku voisi jotain ymmärtääkin kirjoituksestasi, ja jopa vastatskin jotain järkevää! Tuosta sekasotkusta ei ota mitään selvää! In english please!

Rockin' kirjoitti:

Jospa kuitenkin kirjoittaisit omalla kielelläsi (englanti?) niin joku voisi jotain ymmärtääkin kirjoituksestasi, ja jopa vastatskin jotain järkevää! Tuosta sekasotkusta ei ota mitään selvää! In english please!

Hi Rockin' - thanks for your reply.

It's a bit late now though - the episode I was asking for help with has expired! I thought that people would appreciate me making an effort to write in your language rather than expect you to read it in English, but perhaps I made the wrong decision. However, nearly 70 people read this page before anyone asked me to re-write it in English! I also thought that even if it wasn't translating very well, it would still have been fairly obvious what I was asking anyway: the date of the episode I am sure was clear, and I gave a list of credits with gaps - surely people could have guessed what help I was asking for? Again, maybe I was wrong to think this.

Two people (or the same person twice?) did reply, but I'm afraid the posts were too short for the translation software to translate them meaningfully (or they didn't make much sense to begin with?!) I would appreciate if someone could please try and explain what those two posts were about!

I suppose there is still a chance that someone has the 2nd episode from 19/10/2011 on their DVD recorder (or similar). If anyone does, please could you look at the end credits and correct/fill in the missing bits from the list I gave in the first post. I would be very grateful as it is for an Emmerdale wiki which I am working on (emmerdalewiki.wikia.com/wiki/The_Emmerdale_Wiki). For various reasons progress on the wiki has been slow recently although work is always going on 'behind the scenes'. For example I hope and expect to have complete cast and crew lists for the whole of 2009 (except perhaps February 20th) within the next 7 weeks.

I may as well use this opportunity to give advanced warning - there is a second episode I would like crew lists for, which is the 1st episode being broadcast this coming Friday 25/11/11. Unfortunately I cannot confidently predict what jobs were credited for this episode so I can't give a fill-in-the-blanks list as I did with the previous episode. If anyone would like to help with either episode you can reply here, or e-mail to [email protected]. Or, if you so wish, the 19/10/11 list can be added directly to emmerdalewiki.wikia.com/wiki/05228, while this Fridays' can be added to emmerdalewiki.wikia.com/wiki/05281. I still need to work out how to get the formatting I want for these credit lists but there's no harm in them being put up in basic form!

Any help people can offer to complete these credits will be very much appreciated. Thank you.

emmerdalewiki kirjoitti:

Hi Rockin' - thanks for your reply.

It's a bit late now though - the episode I was asking for help with has expired! I thought that people would appreciate me making an effort to write in your language rather than expect you to read it in English, but perhaps I made the wrong decision. However, nearly 70 people read this page before anyone asked me to re-write it in English! I also thought that even if it wasn't translating very well, it would still have been fairly obvious what I was asking anyway: the date of the episode I am sure was clear, and I gave a list of credits with gaps - surely people could have guessed what help I was asking for? Again, maybe I was wrong to think this.

Two people (or the same person twice?) did reply, but I'm afraid the posts were too short for the translation software to translate them meaningfully (or they didn't make much sense to begin with?!) I would appreciate if someone could please try and explain what those two posts were about!

I suppose there is still a chance that someone has the 2nd episode from 19/10/2011 on their DVD recorder (or similar). If anyone does, please could you look at the end credits and correct/fill in the missing bits from the list I gave in the first post. I would be very grateful as it is for an Emmerdale wiki which I am working on (emmerdalewiki.wikia.com/wiki/The_Emmerdale_Wiki). For various reasons progress on the wiki has been slow recently although work is always going on 'behind the scenes'. For example I hope and expect to have complete cast and crew lists for the whole of 2009 (except perhaps February 20th) within the next 7 weeks.

I may as well use this opportunity to give advanced warning - there is a second episode I would like crew lists for, which is the 1st episode being broadcast this coming Friday 25/11/11. Unfortunately I cannot confidently predict what jobs were credited for this episode so I can't give a fill-in-the-blanks list as I did with the previous episode. If anyone would like to help with either episode you can reply here, or e-mail to [email protected]. Or, if you so wish, the 19/10/11 list can be added directly to emmerdalewiki.wikia.com/wiki/05228, while this Fridays' can be added to emmerdalewiki.wikia.com/wiki/05281. I still need to work out how to get the formatting I want for these credit lists but there's no harm in them being put up in basic form!

Any help people can offer to complete these credits will be very much appreciated. Thank you.

Hi!

Epidode shown in Finnish tv 25.11 (the first one, and I hope it's the right one because on the tv company website there's some mixup) crew:

First Assistant Director - Val Lawson
Script Supervisor - Liz Briggs
Pre Prod Script Supervisor - Lee Pickering
Stage Manager - Annie Beever
Assistant Stage Manager - Katie Fenton
Second Assistant Director - Sophie Dowd
Third Assistant Director - Sharon Wood
Senior Location Manager - Martin Campbell
Production Co-ordinator - Sarah Eccles
Post Prod Script Supervisor - Daniel Shannon
Researcher - Eva Lake
Archivist - Katie Finney
Series Producer's Assistant - Estelle Hind
Casting Director - Faye Styring
Casting Assistant - Amy Hill
Senior Programme Publicist - Hannah Green
Programme Publicist - Sian Hunter
Storyliners - Martin Fustes, Lawrie Jordan, Stephen May
Senior Storyliner - Jo Maris
Script Editor - Jenny Bryant
Story Editor - Jane Pearson
Series Script Editor - Maxine Exley
Story Consultant - Andrew Kirk
Script Producer - Tony Hammond
Production Manager - Ian Morley
Production Designer - Robert Scott
Line Producer - Timothy L. Fee
Series created by Kevin Laffan
Executive Producer Steve Frost
Series Producer Gavin Blyth

The problem with your earlier messages is that I think people saw them as provocation rather than real ones because the language was so bad (GoogleTranslate sucks you know) and also maybe someone could wonder how you happen to be missing the information of just these couple of episodes. And of course, people participating these web conversations tend to be, er, not always polite;)

About the language, for example when you are asking for the "credits" (that I assume was the word in your original text) and use GoogleTranslate, that is translated as "luotto" in Finnish. This word in our language doesn't mean "credits" in the way you want but "credits" like bank credits, credits for a loan etc. I'm sure there were many other words in a similar way misinterpreted in your messages as well... I could somehow understand from them what you meant, but can understand how many maybe with less knowledge of English didn't.

anyway hope you got the information for the 25.11 epidose you wanted, can't help you with the earlier one since, like you said, it's expired

bored-and-online kirjoitti:

Hi!

Epidode shown in Finnish tv 25.11 (the first one, and I hope it's the right one because on the tv company website there's some mixup) crew:

First Assistant Director - Val Lawson
Script Supervisor - Liz Briggs
Pre Prod Script Supervisor - Lee Pickering
Stage Manager - Annie Beever
Assistant Stage Manager - Katie Fenton
Second Assistant Director - Sophie Dowd
Third Assistant Director - Sharon Wood
Senior Location Manager - Martin Campbell
Production Co-ordinator - Sarah Eccles
Post Prod Script Supervisor - Daniel Shannon
Researcher - Eva Lake
Archivist - Katie Finney
Series Producer's Assistant - Estelle Hind
Casting Director - Faye Styring
Casting Assistant - Amy Hill
Senior Programme Publicist - Hannah Green
Programme Publicist - Sian Hunter
Storyliners - Martin Fustes, Lawrie Jordan, Stephen May
Senior Storyliner - Jo Maris
Script Editor - Jenny Bryant
Story Editor - Jane Pearson
Series Script Editor - Maxine Exley
Story Consultant - Andrew Kirk
Script Producer - Tony Hammond
Production Manager - Ian Morley
Production Designer - Robert Scott
Line Producer - Timothy L. Fee
Series created by Kevin Laffan
Executive Producer Steve Frost
Series Producer Gavin Blyth

The problem with your earlier messages is that I think people saw them as provocation rather than real ones because the language was so bad (GoogleTranslate sucks you know) and also maybe someone could wonder how you happen to be missing the information of just these couple of episodes. And of course, people participating these web conversations tend to be, er, not always polite;)

About the language, for example when you are asking for the "credits" (that I assume was the word in your original text) and use GoogleTranslate, that is translated as "luotto" in Finnish. This word in our language doesn't mean "credits" in the way you want but "credits" like bank credits, credits for a loan etc. I'm sure there were many other words in a similar way misinterpreted in your messages as well... I could somehow understand from them what you meant, but can understand how many maybe with less knowledge of English didn't.

anyway hope you got the information for the 25.11 epidose you wanted, can't help you with the earlier one since, like you said, it's expired

Hi bored-and-online! I've been having trouble logging in to gmail the last couple of days so hadn't been aware that you had replied.

Firstly, thank you very much for the list of credits you provided. You say there's been a mix-up on the website, in which case I hope it is their fault rather than mine but I'm afraid I believe they are the wrong ones! The episode I have missing was broadcast here on 27th April. The list you have provided is identical to that for the 21st. Experience suggests this is unlikely. Perhaps it would have helped at the time if I had described the content of the episode. It is the one sandwiched between Daz's departure and Cain's return - it starts with Victoria in a field (with a rainbow behind her), and ends with Debbie saying she wants custody of Sarah. If I've genuinely given the wrong date out I am very sorry but would you mind doing it again please? I know it's a busy time of year for everybody. I feel bad that you've gone to the trouble of doing it and it may be my fault that it's incorrect, but I'd be very grateful if you could do it again.

In answer to why it is just these couple of episodes I am missing credits for. Most of 2009's credits have come from one of three sources: youtube, a friend in Sweden, and myself (from November onwards). Unfortunately many episodes on Youtube do not include the credits which is where my friend filled in the blanks. Swedish episodes only stay online for 1 week so the window of opportunity is much smaller. The episode from about 6 weeks ago unfortunately was my mistake as I gave my friend the wrong episode number - I told him I wanted episode 2 rather than episode 1, and by the time I realised the mistake it was too late. This episode I want help with now was my friends fault as he thought he had a recording of the episode on DVD but it turned out he didn't and by then the online version had expired.

Thank you for the explanation about how some of the words got mixed up. It can be tricky trying to communicate with people who don't speak your language!

Going back to the correct set of credits I was looking for, if it was my mistake then it is likely that the episode I am looking for was from two days later (still episode 1). It is great to know there are people out there willing to assist. If you could try once more that would be fantastic!

Thanks again for your first effort and again I'm sorry that, for whatever reason it appears to be the wrong one. I hope to hear from you (or someone else) again!

Colin