Tämä on tarkoitettu ateisteille, helluntailaisille ja muille Jumalan sanan vääristelijöille, jotka puhuvat epätotuudenmukaisesti Jumalasta ja hänen rangaistuksistaan yhä uudelleen ja uudelleen vaikka heille on asiat selitetty. Mihinkään järkevään argumentointiin he eivät kykene joten heidän täytyy aina poistattaa viestit joissa heille kerrotaan asiat totuudenmukaisesti.
Eli väännetään taas kerran rautalangasta tästä hel-vetistä.
James King Bible on todettu lukemattomia kertoja luotettavammaksi käännöksiltään kuin suomenkielinen Raamattu.
Luetaan siis sitä.
Raamattuhan kyllä sanoo että syntiset heitetään tuliseen pätsiin jossa on itku ja hammasten kiristys. Se on totta.
Matthew.13:42 "And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
Täsmälleen samasta asiasta kertoo myös Matthew.24:51 vertaus kertomalla siitä miten syntinen surmataan lyömällä kappaleiksi ja laitetaan sen jälkeen paikkaan jossa on itku ja hammasten kiristys.
Matthew.24:41 "He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Kuitenkin Luke.12:46-48 kertoo myös täsmälleen saman Raamatun kohdan siitä miten jumalaton surmataan lyömällä kappaleiksi ja joutuu sen jälkeen kärsimyksen paikkaan. Mutta Luke.12:46-48 kertookin että siellä hänet laitetaan kärsimään tekojensa mukaan joko enemmän tai vähemmän!
Luke.12:45-48 "The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."
Ja tämän samanhan kertoo myös ilmestyskirjakin. Että siis ensin jumalattomat tuhotaan taivaasta satavalla tulella.
Revelation.20:9 "They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."
Ja että sen jälkeen jokainen kuollut ei-uskova tuomitaan tekojensa mukaan ja että sen jälkeen hän kuolee toisen kuoleman.
Revelation.20:13-15 "The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire."
Eli siellä tulisessa järvessä kärsitään syntien mukaan ja sitten Kuolema ja Tuonela heitetään sinne ja silloin siellä olevat kuolevat toisen kuoleman! Eli kukaan ei kärsi hel-vetissä ikuisesti!
Eli väännetään taas kerran rautalangasta tästä hel-vetistä.
James King Bible on todettu lukemattomia kertoja luotettavammaksi käännöksiltään kuin suomenkielinen Raamattu.
Luetaan siis sitä.
Raamattuhan kyllä sanoo että syntiset heitetään tuliseen pätsiin jossa on itku ja hammasten kiristys. Se on totta.
Matthew.13:42 "And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
Täsmälleen samasta asiasta kertoo myös Matthew.24:51 vertaus kertomalla siitä miten syntinen surmataan lyömällä kappaleiksi ja laitetaan sen jälkeen paikkaan jossa on itku ja hammasten kiristys.
Matthew.24:41 "He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Kuitenkin Luke.12:46-48 kertoo myös täsmälleen saman Raamatun kohdan siitä miten jumalaton surmataan lyömällä kappaleiksi ja joutuu sen jälkeen kärsimyksen paikkaan. Mutta Luke.12:46-48 kertookin että siellä hänet laitetaan kärsimään tekojensa mukaan joko enemmän tai vähemmän!
Luke.12:45-48 "The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."
Ja tämän samanhan kertoo myös ilmestyskirjakin. Että siis ensin jumalattomat tuhotaan taivaasta satavalla tulella.
Revelation.20:9 "They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."
Ja että sen jälkeen jokainen kuollut ei-uskova tuomitaan tekojensa mukaan ja että sen jälkeen hän kuolee toisen kuoleman.
Revelation.20:13-15 "The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire."
Eli siellä tulisessa järvessä kärsitään syntien mukaan ja sitten Kuolema ja Tuonela heitetään sinne ja silloin siellä olevat kuolevat toisen kuoleman! Eli kukaan ei kärsi hel-vetissä ikuisesti!
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Vanhimmat
Siinä on ne teidän muutama harha selitetty joiden vuoksi uskotte Raamatun opettavan ikuista piinaa!
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Ja tässä sitten niitä jakeita JOITA ON SATOJA jotka kertoo että hel-vetti on tuhon paikka, eikä ikuisen kidutuksen paikka! Iankaikkinen elämä on Jumalan lahja uskoville! Iankaikkista olemassaoloa ei saa erossa Jumalasta!
Matthew.10:28 "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."
Matthew.7:13-14 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
John.3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Hebrews.10:27 "but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God."
2Peter.3:7 "By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly."
Revelation.11:18 "And the nations were angry and your anger has come, and the time of the dead to be judged, and you shall give reward to your Servants the Prophets and to The Holy Ones and to those who reverence your name, to the small with the great, and you shall destroy those who have corrupted The Earth."
Matthew.13:40 "As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age."
John.15:6 "If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned."
Matthew.3:10 "The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire."
Luke.12:58-59 "As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled on the way, or your adversary may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny."
Matthew.18:32-35 "Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."
Luke.12:45-48 "But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."
Matthew.16:27 "For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done."
Ecclesiastes.9:10 "Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom."
Revelation.20:13-14 "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hades delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
Malachi.4:1-3 "Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the Lord Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them. But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act,” says the Lord Almighty."
Jaa hyvä! Meinasin jo teehä parannuksen tästä rietastelusta kun rupesi pelottaa tuo helvetti mutta taidan jatkaa rilluvamei vaan ei hätää enää heh!
mauri
Mielummin tulimeressä kuin uskovaisten kanssa laulamassa diktaattorille ylistysvirsiä.
joo, harhaoppi hihhulit ja ateistit ei tietenkään pelastu
""Eli siellä tulisessa järvessä kärsitään syntien mukaan ja sitten Kuolema ja Tuonela heitetään sinne ja silloin siellä olevat kuolevat toisen kuoleman! Eli kukaan ei kärsi hel-vetissä ikuisesti!""
Se ei mene noin kuin yrität todistaa. Kirjoitat, että "...tulisessa järvessä ... kuolevat toisen kuoleman". Ei, vaan tulinen järvi ON toinen kuolema.
Ilm. 20:14
Ja Kuolema ja Tuonela heitettiin tuliseen järveen. Tämä on toinen kuolema, tulinen järvi.
Itsenäisesti kuolematonta sielua ei mainita Raamatussa. Kirjoituksissa nimenomaan sanotaan että ainoastaan Jumala on kuolematon.
1Timothy.6:16 "who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."
Jumala antaa kuolemattomuuden vain vanhurskaille.
Romans.2:7 "To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life."
Koska Jumala on elämä niin iankaikkista olemassaoloa ei saa kukaan muuta kuin Jumalan yhteydessä.
John.1:4 "In him was life, and the life was the light of men."
Erossa Jumalasta sielu tuhoutuu.
2Thessalonians.1:9 "They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might"
Rautalanka on pihalla ku lumiukko ja pahasti pakkasen purema. Taitaa olla omat synnit niin suuret et itelleen vääntää rautalangasta lohdutusta.