http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/art-1447910474140.html
venäjä on antanut pommien tippua ISIS asemiin
venäjä on antanut pommien tippua ISIS asemiin
Turvaa tilisi vahvistamalla puhelinnumerosi. Voit silloin palauttaa unohtuneen salasanan tekstiviestillä.
Näihin keskusteluihin ei ole vielä vastattu. Ole ensimmäinen.
Vastaukset 16
Vanhimmat
http://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/2015111920694516_ul.shtml
Myös Ranska&Usa on pommittanut
joo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwE_NYL4iI
niin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZSB88zSr8I
Asioita käsitelty nyt aika paljastavasti. Kommenteista tulee lisää erilaisia vihjeitä. Kauppalehdessä on myös keskustelu tästä.
The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/19/2015 16:49 -0500
"WTF, Tyler... Is this suppose to be some kind of a secret? ALL ISIS oil sales to Turkey are through Kurdish president Barzani's mafia directly to Israel, with full knowledge and consent of the U.S. State Department. EU countries then buy it from Israel. Every oil shipper in the Mediterranean knows this.
The U.S. and Israel have been bribing corrupt Kurds for a decade. KRG President Barzani, his KDP party and his mafia clan family fucking OWN all criminal activity in Iraqi Kurdistan. The average Kurd isn't involved and doesn't see a dime. Mob boss and president for life Barzani is a fucking TOOL of the U.S. and Israel and a buddy of Erdogan (who is busy shelling Syrian Kurds). Barzani's mafia is allowed to rape the Kurds and Iraqis with impunity as long as he 'obeys' his U.S., Israeli and Turkish masters. He is a sell-out; a Kurdish Saddam Hussein in the making and we'll eventually have to send U.S. troops to Kurdistan to take out that fucking U.S.-created monster some day. His land-grabbing supposedly on behalf of the Kurds is so fucking egregious that he would make an Israeli blush. "
EU:han on myös viime aikoina Olli Rehnin kautta ollut liittämässä Turkkia EU:n jäsenmaaksi. Siis taustalla jenkit, israel, ISIS myy Irakin tms. öljyä halvalla, kuljetetaan Kurdistanin korruptio-pomon luvalla Välimeren satamiin ja Israeliin.
The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/19/2015 16:49 -0500
"Barzani's clan has been selling millions of barrels of oil well below market price for a year and none of the money has been making it to the Kurdish Regional Government. A good chunk does make it to Barzani's corrupt political party: the KDP. That's only one of his criminal enterprises, but it's a huge one. The Barzani mafia has been buying ISIS oil (no questions asked) and shipping it to Turkey along with whatever they are pulling from their patchwork of fields. The Toyota Hilux pipeline TO ISIS is also - surprise - controlled by a different arm of the Barazani mafia. Barzani runs bartertown, and no oil flows without his henchmen getting a cut for Barzani. This is by U.S. and Israeli design. It was always their intention to steal the northern Iraqi oilfields from the Iraqis AND from the Kurds. Barzani is nothing but their paid thief, and he buys from anyone INCLUDING ISIS.
Did you really think ISIS just trucked a tanker through Kurdish territory and negotiated a sale one-on-one with Erdogan's mafia? We're talking millions of barrels here, not a bunch of little 1000 bbl truckloads sold individually (although that's the impression the U.S. would have you believe).
The U.S. has gone overboard to paint this as the desperate actions of the Kurds because the Iraqi government in Baghdad isn't sending the Kurds their share of Iraqi oil revenue. While that part is true, it turns out that the U.S. and Israel are the ones originally bribing Baghdad to interfere with payments, and Baghdad has been stealing most of the oil revenue for themselves with the help and consent of Western bankers anyways.
Kurds selling 'their own' oil because Baghdad isn't sending tax revenues IS A U.S. AND ISRAELI engineered crisis to justify independent Kurdish oil sales. Israel's interest isn't just discounted oil (for now). Iraq still refuses to sell Israel any of it's oil directly, so it's 'arranging' theft of Iraqi oil through their paid-off monkey Barzani through his personal mafia. This is all greasing the skids for the U.S. and Israel-engineered Kurdish independence movement, allowing the completion of the Kirkuk to Haifa pipeline and unlimited supplies of oil for Israel. Israel also has tons of listening posts and surveillance stuff in Iraqi Kurdistan on the Iranian border. Israel plans to own Kurdistan - it's their highway from the Mediterranean to attack Iran. Israel will kill every last Kurd if they have to in order to keep Barzani (their paid stooge) in power.
If you want the U.S./Israeli/Barzani-mafia side of the story, look no further than their propaganda mouthpiece (Barazani's son runs it): BasNews. Barzani's narratives are always 100% consistent with Israeli and U.S. 'news' about Kurdistan. Talk to the average Kurd or anyone from the YPG/YPJ and you'll get the 'little peoples' story. They fucking HATE the U.S. and Israel BECAUSE they know they're behind Barzani's mafia.
If you want the real story, then ask yourself who benefits:
Israel turns to Kurds for three-quarters of its oil supplies
Exclusive: How Kurdistan bypassed Baghdad and sold oil on global markets
Iraqi Kurds to continue oil sales despite Baghdad's US court win
The last article is interesting in that U.S. courts have decided that Kurds cannot legally sell Iraqi oil on world markets. So while most countries won't touch it, Israel is able to buy it at a huge discount and sell it to another middleman for a few bucks a barrel more. Israel is immune from goy law, so fuck U.S. courts.
I wouldn't object to Kurd oil sales if the Kurds actually got the money, but they're not. Most is being siphoned off by Barzani and Israeli criminals. The U.S. should be intervening and forcing Baghdad to share oil revenues according to the original plan, but the U.S. has put so many of their stooges in the Iraqi government that most of THAT revenue is stolen.
A million Iraqi deaths, hundreds of thousan"
"ISIS >Iraq Oil>Through Kurdish Region>Turkish Refineries>Port of Ceyhan>Israel>Cheap Oil"
"a recent documentary on arte france about daesch (douche) put their oil revs. at 10 million a day via mostly tank trucks over the turkish border. this is allowed by the nato pal erdogan.
as we see from recent apaches hovering over toyota parades the us presence is active in the region. that trade could be cut off instantly were it actually desired by nato. it is allowed.
the other 2/3 s of the IS income stream is from direct wahabi funding sources and the ISs tendency to extort all real local economies and their inhabitants."
Kauppalehdessä pohdiskeltiin, miksi kukaan rahoittajavaltio, USA, Ranska, Turkki ei edes Venäjä pommita kilometrien pituisia öljykuljetuksia lähellä Turkin rajaa, nyt Zerohedgen jutussa sanotaan, että USA koneet tai nato suojaa kuljetuksia ainakin Turkki.
http://keskustelu.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/keskustelu/thread.jspa?threadID=251043&start=15&tstart=0
"Tuo öljykauppa on kyllä uskomatonta. Miten se on mahdollista.
Jossain oli, että Turkki, Jordania ja Iran ostaisivat ISISin öljyä. Tuota Irania kyllä vahvasti epäilen, sillä Iranhan tukee Syyrian hallintoa.
Miksi USA ja EU ei pane stoppia Turkin ja Jordanian öljyn ostolle terroristeilta?"
H. Clinton tainnut olla jossain virastossa? Nyt paljastui, että Clintoneilla on 20 milj. yksityinen sijoitusrahasto.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking
"Who ever is doing it would have to be really sleazy! Wait, has anyone looked at the Clinton Foundation?"
Mistä saavat vaikeasti saatavia aseita?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking
"I was watching some videos provided by news networks basically trying to show the Syria/Europe connection. The quality of some of the weapons ISIS has is mind numbing. Fantastic rocket launchers. Where are they getting this stuff. Hey guys I build some of this stuff. Two days ago you should have seen the non-disclose forms I had to sign. How can they get this stuff without the west's consent? The world is a cesspool. I know the places Victor Bout (Mr. Innocent) got his products from. I been there. Bishkek comes to mind real quick. I have been many places in the world and I have met many many Muslims and I never met one I couldn't get along with. I am not one to push my ideals on anyone else and I always try to maintain a reasonably open mind. I was offered goat eyes (guest of honor) but I never ate them so I guess I'm not the meanest son of a bitch in the valley."
""Where are they getting this stuff?", you ask?
Why, from US air drops, and from the panicking Iraqi Army, we were told, when ISIS was first in its rapid expansion phase.
Which then brings us to the next logical, but non-obvious question: Why were they not using these same US-made arms in Paris? Bad PR for the US (if they did), or maybe easier to trace?
So many questions, so few answers"
Sitten mietitään lisää.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking
"I think one of the main reasons why this money pipeline has not been disrupted is right there in the report. Many "market paticipants" would gladly do business with anyone for a 50% discount, even if they were the most bloodthirsy killers on the planet. [=Luulen, että yksi tärkeimmistä syistä, miksi tätä rahaa putki has not häiriintynyt on oikeassa mietinnössä. Monet "markkinatoimijat" mielellään tehdä liiketoimintaa kenellekään 50% alennuksen, vaikka theywere kaikkein verenhimoinen tappajat planeetalla.]"
"Hence: Russian jets destroy ISIS oil refinery & tanker trucks in Syria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N4tmwYHbCU"
"How many times does it have to be said before it sinks in:
ISIS is the USSA/Israel proxy for creating Middle-East/European mayhem
ISIS can therefore "launder" its oil any which way these entites suggest that leave them with plausible deniability -of what the fcuk is going on.
These types of stories are - intentionally or not - smoke-screens & red herrings obfuscating THAT essential fact of the matter.
[=Kuinka monta kertaa se on sanottava ennen uppoaa: ISIS on Ussa / Israel välityspalvelinta luoda Lähi-idän / Euroopan Mayhem
ISIS voi siis "pestä" öljyn miten vain ehdottaa thesis yhteisöt tekivät jättää niille kiistanalainen uskottavuus -of mitä fcuk tapahtuu.
Tämäntyyppiset tarinat ovat - tarkoituksella tai ei - savu-näytöt ja Red Herring hämärtävät että olennaiset tosiasia.]"
"I got a kick out of the ISIS keeping going on "sex slaves and kidnapping", like that would in anyway pay the bills if oil income was cut off.
It is also funny how quickly US forces knocked out Iraq's oil in the first few days of the Iraq war. Yet we are to believe US is not supporting ISIS, of course US is only supporting ISIS because our Zionist overlords have commanded it. "
"".....it certainly is an odd coincidence that the price of Brent and WTI began its tumble last fall, just when the Islamic State made its dramatic appearance on the world scene - will have an effect and cut off the primary source of funds to ISIS."
That's because there are bigger fish to fry (Russia). Syria had been going rather well for them and they presumably collected a lot of cash when the prices were high as well.
Edit: Although it definitely contributed to the problem of too much oil."
"A year of American bombing failed to halt or even slow the ISIS oil export business, that went in trucks across the open desert highways. How many believe the USA didn't know this system was running?
The USA has always wanted ISIS to control a vast section of Syria in order to destroy Assad. Russia came in a called the US bluff. So now it is game on."
"Kauppalehdessä pohdiskeltiin, miksi kukaan rahoittajavaltio, USA, Ranska, Turkki ei edes Venäjä pommita kilometrien pituisia öljykuljetuksia."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgYbiCGYy2c
allah aabaua aabussta hahalsabuauabaua..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFHIJk_cw-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxMYeU9G314
Pari artikkelia.
Tästä jutusta tietoa lainailtu.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-19/why-u-s-efforts-to-cut-off-islamic-state-s-funds-have-failed
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43461.htm
Lisää löytyy vaikka kuinka paljon.
ISIS is making up to $50 million a month from oil sales
http://uk.businessinsider.com/isis-making-50-million-a-month-from-oil-sales-2015-10?r=US&IR=T
Siellä karvat vaan pöllähtää kun velivenäläisen ohjus tömähtää partalapsien asemiin.
Muutaman pommin voisivat tiputtaa myös rajan tälle puolen, kyllä noita tuhottavia "taisteluleirejä" alkaa täälläkin kohta olla jokaisessa pitäjässä.
Mielenkiintoista. Selittäisi kyllä muutamia asioita. Eilen juuri mietin, miksi Israel on niin hiljaa tässä asiassa. On kyllä melkoinen shakki. Ikävää, että siinä pelissä on kuollut ja kuolee yhä enemmän ihmisiä rahan ja politiikan takia.
Siis onko tämä ollut ihan yleistä tietoa? Kuulostaa ihan salaliittoteorialta. Mutta selittäisi kyllä sen, miksi aidosti vihainen Holland vetosi EU:n turvalausekkeeseen eikä Amerikkalaisiin mestaripommittajiin. Voihan kele tuota rahakähmilöintiä ihmishenkien kustannuksella. Ja jos IS aiheutti ainakin osan tuosta migrant-vyörystä, niin kyllä jää maksajan osa meille.