RUKOILKAA ISRAELIN PUOLESTA

Olin töissä Israelissa yli vuoden. Olen itsekin Kristitty. Ensinnäkin tuomitsen jyrkästi itsemurhaiskut, on oltava muita keinoja. Samoin Israelin on turha luulla, että sotilaallisella toiminalla saavutetaan muuta kuin lisää vihaa ja itsemurhaiskuja. Samalla tavalla voisimme rukoilla Palestiinalaisten Äitien puolesta. Kyllä Israelin asenne muslimi-maailmaa kohtaan on suorastaan puistattava. Viha on syvällä, eikä sitä poisteta hetkessä, ainakaan meidän rukoilulla. Otan osaa molempien osapuolten suruun.

Israel on jo aikaa sitten käyttänyt loppuun sen
myötätunnon joka syntyi 2.maailmansodan johdosta.
Nythän he itse soveltavat täysin samaa taktiikkaa,
ja vinkuvat myötätuntoa.Jos sen rinnalla ei olisi
suuri ja mahtava USA,niin Israel valtiona ei saisi
senkään vertaa tukea maailmalta....Ja taitaisi
sen valtion uhittelu loppua lyhyeen.
Kyllä,olen tässä asiassa palestiinalaisten puolella.
Vaikkakin on aina vaarallista katsoa asioita yksi-
puolisesti.Sillä kenelläkään ei ole olemassa
sitä viisastenkiveä josta pulppuaisi se ainoa
oikea totuus.

alkoi anglo-amerikkalaisten öljykonglomeraattien tarpeesta saada Lähi-Idän alueelle levottomuuspesäke jota voisi käyttää tekosyynä sotilaalliselle läsnäololle alueella.

Myös Israel-Palestiina veljessota palvelee läntisen markkinatalouden etuja ja sitä pitää käynnissä nimenomaan U$A.

Bushin valta rajoittuu siihen että hän kuuluttaa julkisuuteen mitä hänen edustamansa teollisuus neuvonantajineen hänelle sanelee.

Äijällä itsellään ei ole älyllisiä eväitä tällaisten asioiden käsittämiseen. Bushin älykkyysosamäärällä (80), ei sivistysvaltiossa pääse kuin korkeintaan kadunlakaisijaksi.

Tässä muutamia henkilöitä presidentillisten kulissien takaa. Kuten Sharon sanoi viime syksynä. "Me, juutalaiset hallitsemme Amerikkaa ja amerikkalaiset tietävät sen."

U.S. Jewish Government under President Bush:

Ari Fleischer
Official White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr) Administration.
Prominent in the Jewish community, he reportedly holds Israeli citizenship.

Richard Perle
One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors and chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board.
He had worked as Bush's Jewish national security campaign advisor.
A very likely Israeli agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security
Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy.
He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam.

Paul Wolfowitz
Deputy Defense Secretary, Bush's Jewish foreign policy campaign advisor,
close associate of Israeli agent Richard Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military.

Douglas Feith
Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon.
He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel.
Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely
associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with
its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one
International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior
to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine.

Elliott Abrams
National Security Council Advisor.
He previously worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center.
During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs.
He played an important role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and
illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three
congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty
in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. A year later, Bush Sr.
granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State Department.

Dov Zekheim
Under Secretary of Defense.
He was Bush's Jewish foreign policy advisor and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship.

Richard Haass
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large.
He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National Security Council,
and who consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Henry Kissinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board.
For detailed information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book. Kissinger had a part in the
Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders, Chile dictatorship and reaped investment profits in Yugoslavia.
He consistently advocates bombing Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S.

James Schlesinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board
and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. He consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Robert Zoellick
U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level position.
He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq
and occupying a portion of the country in order to set up setting up a Vichy-style puppet government.
He consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Marc Grossman
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.
He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State.
Grossman is one of many of the Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

Robert Satloff
U.S. National Security Council Advisor,
Satloff was the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.

Mel Sembler
President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States.
A Prominent Jewish Republican and Former National Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
The Export-Import Bank facilitates trade relationships between U.S. businesses and foreign countries,
specifically those with financial problems.

Joshua Bolten
Bush's Chief Policy Director, banker and former legislative aide.
Prominent in the Jewish community.

Steve Goldsmith
Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's Jewish domestic policy advisor.
He also serves as liaison in the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (White House OFBCI)
within the Executive Office of the President. He was the former mayor of Indianapolis. He is also friends with Israeli
Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits Israel to coach mayors on privatization initiatives.

Daniel Saul Goldin
Head of NASA, National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
A leftover from the Clinton Administration, Golding is frequently praised by the Israeli media as a friend of Israel.

Adam Goldman
White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.

Joseph Gildenhorn
Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.
He was the DC finance chairman for the Bush campaign, as well as campaign coordinator, and former ambassador to Switzerland.

Christopher Gersten
Former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, husband of Labor Secretary, Linda Chavez,
and reportedly very pro-Israel. Their children are being raised in the Jewish faith.

Mark Weinberger
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.

Samuel Bodman
Deputy Secretary of Commerce.
He was the Chairman and CEO of Cabot Corporation in Boston, Massachusetts.

Bonnie Cohen
Under Secretary of State for Management.

Ruth Davis
Director of Foreign Service Institute,
who reports to the Office of Under Secretary for Management. This Office is responsible for training
all Department of State staff (including ambassadors).

Lincoln Bloomfield
Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs.

Bush has hired these Israeli lobbyists to the highest positions in the land, he has escalated the bombing of Iraq,
and already sided with Israel in killing Palestinian civilians.

moonman kirjoitti:

alkoi anglo-amerikkalaisten öljykonglomeraattien tarpeesta saada Lähi-Idän alueelle levottomuuspesäke jota voisi käyttää tekosyynä sotilaalliselle läsnäololle alueella.

Myös Israel-Palestiina veljessota palvelee läntisen markkinatalouden etuja ja sitä pitää käynnissä nimenomaan U$A.

Bushin valta rajoittuu siihen että hän kuuluttaa julkisuuteen mitä hänen edustamansa teollisuus neuvonantajineen hänelle sanelee.

Äijällä itsellään ei ole älyllisiä eväitä tällaisten asioiden käsittämiseen. Bushin älykkyysosamäärällä (80), ei sivistysvaltiossa pääse kuin korkeintaan kadunlakaisijaksi.

Tässä muutamia henkilöitä presidentillisten kulissien takaa. Kuten Sharon sanoi viime syksynä. "Me, juutalaiset hallitsemme Amerikkaa ja amerikkalaiset tietävät sen."

U.S. Jewish Government under President Bush:

Ari Fleischer
Official White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr) Administration.
Prominent in the Jewish community, he reportedly holds Israeli citizenship.

Richard Perle
One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors and chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board.
He had worked as Bush's Jewish national security campaign advisor.
A very likely Israeli agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security
Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy.
He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam.

Paul Wolfowitz
Deputy Defense Secretary, Bush's Jewish foreign policy campaign advisor,
close associate of Israeli agent Richard Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military.

Douglas Feith
Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon.
He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel.
Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely
associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with
its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one
International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior
to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine.

Elliott Abrams
National Security Council Advisor.
He previously worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center.
During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs.
He played an important role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and
illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three
congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty
in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. A year later, Bush Sr.
granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State Department.

Dov Zekheim
Under Secretary of Defense.
He was Bush's Jewish foreign policy advisor and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship.

Richard Haass
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large.
He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National Security Council,
and who consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Henry Kissinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board.
For detailed information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book. Kissinger had a part in the
Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders, Chile dictatorship and reaped investment profits in Yugoslavia.
He consistently advocates bombing Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S.

James Schlesinger
One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board
and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. He consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Robert Zoellick
U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level position.
He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq
and occupying a portion of the country in order to set up setting up a Vichy-style puppet government.
He consistently advocates bombing Iraq.

Marc Grossman
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.
He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State.
Grossman is one of many of the Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

Robert Satloff
U.S. National Security Council Advisor,
Satloff was the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.

Mel Sembler
President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States.
A Prominent Jewish Republican and Former National Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
The Export-Import Bank facilitates trade relationships between U.S. businesses and foreign countries,
specifically those with financial problems.

Joshua Bolten
Bush's Chief Policy Director, banker and former legislative aide.
Prominent in the Jewish community.

Steve Goldsmith
Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's Jewish domestic policy advisor.
He also serves as liaison in the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (White House OFBCI)
within the Executive Office of the President. He was the former mayor of Indianapolis. He is also friends with Israeli
Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits Israel to coach mayors on privatization initiatives.

Daniel Saul Goldin
Head of NASA, National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
A leftover from the Clinton Administration, Golding is frequently praised by the Israeli media as a friend of Israel.

Adam Goldman
White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.

Joseph Gildenhorn
Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.
He was the DC finance chairman for the Bush campaign, as well as campaign coordinator, and former ambassador to Switzerland.

Christopher Gersten
Former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, husband of Labor Secretary, Linda Chavez,
and reportedly very pro-Israel. Their children are being raised in the Jewish faith.

Mark Weinberger
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.

Samuel Bodman
Deputy Secretary of Commerce.
He was the Chairman and CEO of Cabot Corporation in Boston, Massachusetts.

Bonnie Cohen
Under Secretary of State for Management.

Ruth Davis
Director of Foreign Service Institute,
who reports to the Office of Under Secretary for Management. This Office is responsible for training
all Department of State staff (including ambassadors).

Lincoln Bloomfield
Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs.

Bush has hired these Israeli lobbyists to the highest positions in the land, he has escalated the bombing of Iraq,
and already sided with Israel in killing Palestinian civilians.

Eikö olekin hieno juttu?

Pauli kirjoitti:

Olin töissä Israelissa yli vuoden. Olen itsekin Kristitty. Ensinnäkin tuomitsen jyrkästi itsemurhaiskut, on oltava muita keinoja. Samoin Israelin on turha luulla, että sotilaallisella toiminalla saavutetaan muuta kuin lisää vihaa ja itsemurhaiskuja. Samalla tavalla voisimme rukoilla Palestiinalaisten Äitien puolesta. Kyllä Israelin asenne muslimi-maailmaa kohtaan on suorastaan puistattava. Viha on syvällä, eikä sitä poisteta hetkessä, ainakaan meidän rukoilulla. Otan osaa molempien osapuolten suruun.

Ymmärrän kantasi ja tilanteen vaikeuden, jota ei kukaan täällä oleva voi käsittää.
Suurinosa palestiinalaisista ja juutalaisista on
rauhallisempia, kuin me suomalaiset ja heidän perhekeskeisyydestään meillä olisi paljon opittavaa. Haistatteluja lasten, vanhempien ja isovanhempien välillä ei ole ollenkaan.
Perhe ja suku on sielä erilailla arvossa, kuin meillä.

Nytkin tiedän monien palestiinalaisten ja juutalaisten kaulailevan vedet silmissä, kun ei suju heidän yhteiselonsa.
Palestiinalaisista monet ovat oppineita ja tekevät työtä israelilaisissa yrityksissä ja haluavat vain rauhaa.
Monesti kuvataan heidät oppimattomattomiksi siivestelijöiksi israelilaisten kupeessa.
Tämä on väärä käsitys.

Miten heille saataisiin rauha, se on mielestäni meidän kaikkien tehtävä ja samalla etu.

on vastoin Suomen lakia. Tuollaisesta kirjoittelusta saa tuomion, jos jää kiinni.