Kyllä Paaviudesta voi olla mitä mieltä mutta kyllä niin kuin presidentti Bush sanoi Johannes Paavali II:sen kuolin päivänä, että Pietarin istuimen haltija on kuollut ja että muistamme hänen poismeno surulla. Muutkin maailmanjohtaja ylistivät edesemenyttä paavia ja hänen suuria tekoja maailman rauhan ja elämän puolustajana.
Eihän ne kaikki paavit yhtä hyviä ole olleet. Mutta kyllä se katolinen kirkko tunustaa että mikään ei estä huonoa paavia joutumasta helvettiin, pistihän se Dante kirjassaan parikin paavia palamaan infernoon. Kai se ero katolisessa uskossa on se että paavi voi olla miten mätä henkiläkohtaisissa milipiteisään ja elämän tavassaan, mutta ei koskaan lausuisi erhetymättömästi, eli virallisesti kirkon nimessä jotain joka menisi kirkon oppia vastaan.
Tässä pieni luterialinen, paavia puolustamassa iroonisesti kyllä.
Luther himself gave witness to the immemorial Tradition of the Church regarding the place of the Pope in the Church when he wrote:
"If Christ had not entrusted all power to one man, the Church would not have been perfect because there would have been no order and each one would have been able to say he was led by the Holy Spirit. This is what the heretics did, each one setting up his own principle. In this way as many Churches arose as there were heads. Christ therefore wills, in order that all may be assembled in one unity, that His power be exercised by one man to whom He Himself commits it. He has, however, made this power so strong that He looses all the powers of Hell (without injury) against it. He says: "The Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it" as though He said: "They will fight against it but never overcome it," so it is in this way it is made manifest that this power is in reality from God and not from man. Wherefore, whoever breaks away from this unity and order of the power, let him not boast of great enlightenment and wonderful works, as our Picards and other heretics do, ‘for much better is obedience than to be the victims of fools who know not what evil they do.' (cf.. Eccles.iv, 17)." (Sermo in Vincula S. Petri, "Werke" Weimar ed., I 69).
Eihän ne kaikki paavit yhtä hyviä ole olleet. Mutta kyllä se katolinen kirkko tunustaa että mikään ei estä huonoa paavia joutumasta helvettiin, pistihän se Dante kirjassaan parikin paavia palamaan infernoon. Kai se ero katolisessa uskossa on se että paavi voi olla miten mätä henkiläkohtaisissa milipiteisään ja elämän tavassaan, mutta ei koskaan lausuisi erhetymättömästi, eli virallisesti kirkon nimessä jotain joka menisi kirkon oppia vastaan.
Tässä pieni luterialinen, paavia puolustamassa iroonisesti kyllä.
Luther himself gave witness to the immemorial Tradition of the Church regarding the place of the Pope in the Church when he wrote:
"If Christ had not entrusted all power to one man, the Church would not have been perfect because there would have been no order and each one would have been able to say he was led by the Holy Spirit. This is what the heretics did, each one setting up his own principle. In this way as many Churches arose as there were heads. Christ therefore wills, in order that all may be assembled in one unity, that His power be exercised by one man to whom He Himself commits it. He has, however, made this power so strong that He looses all the powers of Hell (without injury) against it. He says: "The Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it" as though He said: "They will fight against it but never overcome it," so it is in this way it is made manifest that this power is in reality from God and not from man. Wherefore, whoever breaks away from this unity and order of the power, let him not boast of great enlightenment and wonderful works, as our Picards and other heretics do, ‘for much better is obedience than to be the victims of fools who know not what evil they do.' (cf.. Eccles.iv, 17)." (Sermo in Vincula S. Petri, "Werke" Weimar ed., I 69).
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