Neuvosto-venäjä hävisi Afganistanissa, nyt ei pärjää Ukrainassa

Vanjanrakastajat ovat tästä hiljaa.

Seuraavaksi siellä hääräsi USA, joka jätti poistuessaan maan sekasortoiseen tilaan kun Talibanit palasivat samantien takaisin valtaan. Sitä ennen USA järjesti Irakissa kansan paon, hyökätessään sinne tekaistulla syyllä.

Nykyinen puna-armeija on todella surkea.

Koska putte syrjäytetään?

Joopa joo, mutta on noilla sodilla kuitenkin jotain yhteistä. Nimittäin se, että USA provosoi molemmat. Carterin kansallisen turvallisuuden neuvonantaja haastattelussa vuonna -98:

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [From the Shadows], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan six months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, closely guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Question: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Question: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it?

Tämäkin pätkä oli hyvä:

Question: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense!

Siis kolme vuotta ennen WTC iskuja... Ei helvetti noita USAn tolloja, ja niitä vielä pahempia tolloja, jotka aina uskovat heidän valheitaan.

https://williamblum.org/essays/read/how-the-us-provoked-the-soviet-union-into-invading-afghanistan-and-starting

Siviilikohteiden pommitus on yleisesti hyväksytty ja laajalti käytetty tapa. Ei kait kukaan ole sellaista sanonut kielletyksi?

Länsimaista USA ja Iso-britannia ovat tehneet laajoja pommituksia nimenomaan siviilikohteisiin, ihan ok muillekin.