Lännen olisi pitänyt tukea NL:n sijasta Kiinaa 1941-45

Veteraanisivuston mukaan...

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/we-are-the-mighty/

...Rooseveltin hallinto myös suunnitteli vuosina 1940 ja 1941 Tokion pommittelua japanilaisten sotakaluston p***omiseksi.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/secret-plan-firebomb-japan/

Tästä seikasta näyttäisi myös olleen julkaistu teos, josta tuo veteraanisivusto ei mainitse:
Michael Lemish
Before Pearl Harbor: China, FDR and the Plot to Bomb Japan
julkaissut ELM Grove Publishing (2019)

Anonyymi00005 kirjoitti:

Veteraanisivuston mukaan...

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/we-are-the-mighty/

...Rooseveltin hallinto myös suunnitteli vuosina 1940 ja 1941 Tokion pommittelua japanilaisten sotakaluston p***omiseksi.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/secret-plan-firebomb-japan/

Tästä seikasta näyttäisi myös olleen julkaistu teos, josta tuo veteraanisivusto ei mainitse:
Michael Lemish
Before Pearl Harbor: China, FDR and the Plot to Bomb Japan
julkaissut ELM Grove Publishing (2019)

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C'mon, viisi vastausta ja ketju muistuttaa jo roskakoria.

///MeAgaln

Anonyymi00007 kirjoitti:

C'mon, viisi vastausta ja ketju muistuttaa jo roskakoria.

///MeAgaln

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"Myös Saksa teki Kiinan kanssa sotilasyhteistyötä, mm. Saksa auttoi Kiinaa uudistamaan arneijaansa, ja teki mittavaa kauppaa Kiinan kanssa aina vuoteen 1938, jolloin Saksa tunnusti Manchukuon nukkevaltion ."

Mielenkiintoista. Kertoisitko lisää tästä Saksan ja Kiinan sotilasyhteistyöstä?

Äkkiseltään löytyikin Wikipedia-artikkelista Weimar-Saksan ja sittemmin Natsi-Saksan yhteistoiminnasta Kiinan kanssa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Germany_relations_(1913%E2%80%931941)

》In 1933, the Nazi Party came to power in Germany. The Nazis sought to increase cooperation with the Nationalists in order to gain access to Chinese raw materials.[9][12] Foreign Minister Konstantin von Neurath very much believed in maintaining Germany's good relations with China and mistrusted the Empire of Japan.[3][4] The 1931 Japanese invasion of Manchuria had shown the Chinese leadership the need for military and industrial modernization and they wanted German investment.[13] Moreover, the rapid rise of Nazi Germany's military strength led some Chinese elites to explore fascist ideas.[14]

》In May 1933, Hans von Seeckt arrived in Shanghai to oversee German economic and military involvement in China. He submitted the Denkschrift für Marschall Chiang Kai-shek memorandum outlining his programme for industrialising and militarising China. He called for a small, mobile, and well-equipped force to replace the massive but under-trained army. In addition, he advocated for the army to be the "foundation of ruling power" and for military power to rest in qualitative superiority derived from qualified officers.[15] Von Seeckt suggested that the first step toward achieving this framework was the uniform training and consolidation of the Chinese military under Chiang's command and that the entire military system must be subordinated into a centralised hierarchy. Toward that goal, von Seeckt proposed the formation of a "training brigade" to replace the German eliteheer, which would train other units, with its officer corps selected from strict military placements.[16]

...

》Germany sent military advisers such as Alexander von Falkenhausen to China to help the KMT government reform its armed forces.[12] Von Seeckt's original plans called for a drastic reduction of the military to 60 elite divisions, which would be modeled on the Wehrmacht, but the factions that would be axed remained an open question. As a whole, the officer corps trained by the Whampoa Academy until 1927 had been only marginally better in quality than the warlord armies, but remained loyal to Chiang.[26] ...

》Some divisions began training to German standards and were to form a relatively small but-well trained Chinese Central Army. By the mid-1930s, about 80,000 soldiers had received German-style training.[27] A few pilots of the Nationalist air force did aerial-combat training with the Luftwaffe.[28] The Nazis also provided military hardware. According to von Seeckt, around 80% of China's output of weapons were below par or unsuitable for modern warfare. Therefore, projects were undertaken to modernise existing arsenals. For example, the Hanyang Arsenal was reconstructed in 1935 and 1936 to produce Maxim machine guns, various 82 mm trench mortars, and the Chiang Kai-shek rifle (based on the German Mauser Standardmodell and Karabiner 98k rifles). The Chiang Kai-shek and Hanyang 88 rifles remained as the predominant firearms used by Chinese armies throughout the war.[29]《

Ei kovin usein kuule Natsi-Saksan antamasta sotilaskoulutusavusta Kuomingtanille.

Jos tiedät lisää tiedonlähteitä, joista lukea lisää tästä aiheesta, laita rohkeasti vain.

Anonyymi00006 kirjoitti:

"Myös Saksa teki Kiinan kanssa sotilasyhteistyötä, mm. Saksa auttoi Kiinaa uudistamaan arneijaansa, ja teki mittavaa kauppaa Kiinan kanssa aina vuoteen 1938, jolloin Saksa tunnusti Manchukuon nukkevaltion ."

Mielenkiintoista. Kertoisitko lisää tästä Saksan ja Kiinan sotilasyhteistyöstä?

Äkkiseltään löytyikin Wikipedia-artikkelista Weimar-Saksan ja sittemmin Natsi-Saksan yhteistoiminnasta Kiinan kanssa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Germany_relations_(1913%E2%80%931941)

》In 1933, the Nazi Party came to power in Germany. The Nazis sought to increase cooperation with the Nationalists in order to gain access to Chinese raw materials.[9][12] Foreign Minister Konstantin von Neurath very much believed in maintaining Germany's good relations with China and mistrusted the Empire of Japan.[3][4] The 1931 Japanese invasion of Manchuria had shown the Chinese leadership the need for military and industrial modernization and they wanted German investment.[13] Moreover, the rapid rise of Nazi Germany's military strength led some Chinese elites to explore fascist ideas.[14]

》In May 1933, Hans von Seeckt arrived in Shanghai to oversee German economic and military involvement in China. He submitted the Denkschrift für Marschall Chiang Kai-shek memorandum outlining his programme for industrialising and militarising China. He called for a small, mobile, and well-equipped force to replace the massive but under-trained army. In addition, he advocated for the army to be the "foundation of ruling power" and for military power to rest in qualitative superiority derived from qualified officers.[15] Von Seeckt suggested that the first step toward achieving this framework was the uniform training and consolidation of the Chinese military under Chiang's command and that the entire military system must be subordinated into a centralised hierarchy. Toward that goal, von Seeckt proposed the formation of a "training brigade" to replace the German eliteheer, which would train other units, with its officer corps selected from strict military placements.[16]

...

》Germany sent military advisers such as Alexander von Falkenhausen to China to help the KMT government reform its armed forces.[12] Von Seeckt's original plans called for a drastic reduction of the military to 60 elite divisions, which would be modeled on the Wehrmacht, but the factions that would be axed remained an open question. As a whole, the officer corps trained by the Whampoa Academy until 1927 had been only marginally better in quality than the warlord armies, but remained loyal to Chiang.[26] ...

》Some divisions began training to German standards and were to form a relatively small but-well trained Chinese Central Army. By the mid-1930s, about 80,000 soldiers had received German-style training.[27] A few pilots of the Nationalist air force did aerial-combat training with the Luftwaffe.[28] The Nazis also provided military hardware. According to von Seeckt, around 80% of China's output of weapons were below par or unsuitable for modern warfare. Therefore, projects were undertaken to modernise existing arsenals. For example, the Hanyang Arsenal was reconstructed in 1935 and 1936 to produce Maxim machine guns, various 82 mm trench mortars, and the Chiang Kai-shek rifle (based on the German Mauser Standardmodell and Karabiner 98k rifles). The Chiang Kai-shek and Hanyang 88 rifles remained as the predominant firearms used by Chinese armies throughout the war.[29]《

Ei kovin usein kuule Natsi-Saksan antamasta sotilaskoulutusavusta Kuomingtanille.

Jos tiedät lisää tiedonlähteitä, joista lukea lisää tästä aiheesta, laita rohkeasti vain.

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Japanin armeijakin organisoitiin 1800 ja 1900 lukujen vaihteessa lähinnä preussilaisten oppien mukaisesti..

Japani perusti Yleisesikuntansa vuonna 1878 suoraan saksalaisen mallin mukaan, mikä antoi armeijalle suuren itsenäisyyden siviilihallinnosta.

Merkittävin yksittäinen hahmo oli saksalainen majuri Jakob Meckel, joka saapui Japaniin vuonna 1885. Hän uudisti Japanin sotilaskoulutuksen ja taktiikan preussilaisten periaatteiden mukaisiksi.

Japanilaiset upseerit alkoivat opiskella Saksassa ja omaksuivat saksalaisen käsityksen sotilasluokasta kansakunnan eliittinä

Nykyinen Kiinan valtio vastaakin enemmän Deng Xiaopingin visiota kuin Maon.