Kuka murhasi Marilynin???

ja miksi???
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suhteensa Marilyniin. Marilynin kotipaulainen
atai niissä piireissä ilmeisesti sisäkkö kertoi sen tv-kameroille. John F Kennedyllä oli politiikassa niin paljon töitä, että jän jätti 'kiertopalkintonsa' nuoremmalle
veljelleen leikkikaluksi.

Sisäkkö kertoi, että oliko se kuolemaa edellisenä päivänä kun Bob Kennedy (oikeusministeri) oli
käynyt Marilynin luona ja kuolinpäivnä olivat käyneet FBI:n tai (CIA:n) poliisit Marilynin loistoasunnossa ja pistäneet jonkin piikin
Marilyniin.

Sisäkkö oli vanha ja kunnollisen tapainen nainen.
Hänen oli vaikea kertoa tapahtumasta. Oli varmasti suu tukittu moneksi vuosikymmeneksi.
Aika lähellä jo loppuaan, kun sai kertoa näkemänsä.

Mitähän Marilynin ruumiinavauspöytäkirjassa lukee.
Onkohan se väärennetty. Dokumentissa haastateltiin
myös ruumiinavauksen tehnyttä lääkäriä. Mieleeni jäi se, että hän sanoi suunnilleen, että 'Sic transit gloria mundi." Niin katoaa maailman kunnia. Marilyn oli ollut kuollessan ruma.

Kuka tietäisi Marilynin ruumiinavauspöytäkirjoista
edes jotakin?

Olisiko JFK:n ja/tai Bob Kennedyn ura
loppunut, jos suhde olisi tullut päivänvaloon.
Rumaa kaksinaismoralismia. Eikä JFK ja BK, molemmat olisi pitänyt tuomita murhasta vankilaan
tai siis määräyksestä tappaa yhteinen 'kiertopalkinto.

Surullista oli Marilynin elämä. Ei tähden elämä varmaan niin helppoa ole. Onkohan se totta vai
Hollywood-miehien keksimää myyvää tarua, että Marilyn oli orpo.

(Jostain minulle on muodostunut sellainen kuva,
että Marilynilla oli taipumusta Mynhhausen-syndroomaan. Eikö hän kehitellyt lapsuudestaan monta erilaista tarinaa. En ole Marilyn asiantuntija. Olen pitänyt joistakin hänen filmeistään.)

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  • olen aina ollut varma että marilyn murhattiin. eu alkuunkaan usko että hän olisi tappanut itsensä pillereillä. nätti likkahan se oli mutta mulla on sellainen mielikuva että reppana olis ollu hieman tyhmä...

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  • onko mitään tietoa murhaajasta/murhaajista virallisesti ilmoitettu, vai onko jokainen taho kehitellyt teoriansa mahdollisesta murhaajasta??

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  • Coroner Thomas Noguchi conducted the operation. He was assisted by Eddy Day. Noguchi's findings were as follows.

    External examination: The unembalmed body is that of a 36-year-old well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female weighing 117 pounds and measuring 65-1/2 inches in length. The scalp is covered with bleached blond hair. The eyes are blue. The fixed lividitv is noted in the face, neck, chest, upper portions of arms and the right side of the abdomen. The faint lividity which disappears upon pressure is noted in the back and posterior aspect of the arms and legs. A slight ecchymotic area is noted in the left hip and left side of lower back. The breast shows no significant lesion. There is a horizontal 3-inch long surgical scar in the right upper quadrant of the abdomen. A suprapubic surgical scar measuring 5 inches in length is noted. The conjunctivae are markedly congested; however, no ecehymosis or petechiae are noted. The nose shows no evidence of fracture. The external auditory canals are not remarkable:. No evidence of trauma is noted in the scalp, forehead, cheeks, lips or chin. The neck shows no evidence of trauma. Examination of the hands and nails shows no defects. The lower extremities show no evidence of trauma.

    Body cavity: The usual Y-shaped incision is made to open the thoracic and abdominal cavities. The pleural and abdominal cavities contain no excess of fluid or blood. The mediastinum shows no shifting or widening. The diaphragm is within normal limits. The lower edge of the liver is within the costal margin. The organs are in normal position and relationship.

    Cardiovascular system: The heart weighs 300 grams. The pericardial cavity contains no excess of fluid. The epicardium and pericardium are smooth and glistening. The left ventricular wall measures 1.1 cm. and the right 0.2 cm. The papillary muscles are not hypertrophic. The chordae tendineac are not thickened or shortened. The valves have the usual number of leaflets which are thin and pliable. The tricuspid valve measures 10 cm., the pulmonary valve 6.5 cm., mitral valve 9.5 cm. and aortic valve 7 cm in circumference. There is no septal defect. The foramen ovale is closed. The coronary arteries arise from their usual location and are distributed in normal fashion. Multiple sections of the anterior descending branch of the left coronary artery with a 5 mm. interial demonstrate a patent lumen throughout. The circumflex branch and the right coronary artery also demonstrate a patent lumen. The pulmonary artery contains no thrombus. The aorta has a bright yellow smooth intima.

    Respiratory system: The right lung weighs 465 grams and the left 420 grams. Both lungs are moderately congested with some edema. The surface is dark and red with mottling. The posterior portion of the lungs show severe congestion. The tracheobronchial tree contains no aspirated material or blood. Multiple sections of the lungs show congestion and edematous fluid exuding from the cut surface. No consolidation or suppuration is noted. The mucosa of the larynx is grayish white.

    Liver and biliary system: The liver weighs 1890 grams. The surface is dark brown and smooth. There are marked adhesions through the omentum and abdominal wall in the lower portion of the liver as the gallbladder has been removed. The common duct is widely patent. No calculus or obstructive material is found. Multiple sections of the liver show slight accentuation of the lobular pattern; however, no hemorrhage or tumor is found.

    Hemic and lymphatic system: The spleen weighs 190 grams. The surface is dark red and smooth. Section shows dark red homogeneous firm cut surface. The Malpighian bodies are not clearly identified. There is no evidence of lymphadenopathy. The bone marrow is dark red in color. Endocrine system: The adrenal glands have the usual architectural cortex and medulla. The thyroid glands are of normal size, color and consistency. Urinary system: The kidneys together weigh 350 grams. Their capsules can be stripped without difficulty. Dissection shows a moderately congested parenchyma. The cortical surface is smooth. The pelves and ureters are not dilated or stenosed. The urinary bladder contains approximately 150 cc. of clear straw-colored fluid. The mucosa is not altered.

    Genital system: The external genitalia shows no gross abnormality. Distribution of the pubic hair is of female pattern. The uterus is of the usual size. Multiple sections of the uterus show the usual thickness of the uterine wall without tumor nodules. The endometrium is grayish yellow, measuring up to 0.2 cm in thickness. No polyp or tumor is found. The cervix is clear, showing no nabothian cysts. The tubes are intact. The right ovary demonstrates recent corpus luteum haemorrhagicum. The left ovary shows corpora lutea and albicantia. A vaginal smear is taken. Digestive system: The esophagus has a longitudinal folding mucosa. The stomach is almost completely empty. The contents is brownish mucoid fluid. The volume is estimated to be no more than 20 cc. No residue of the pills is noted. A smear made from the gastric contents and examined under the polarized microscope shows no refractile crystals. The mucosa shows marked congestion and submucosal petechial hemorrhage diffusely. The duodenum shows no ulcer. The contents of the duodenum is also examined under polarized microscope and shows no refractile crystals. The remainder of the small intestine shows no gross abnormality. The appendix is absent. The colon shows marked congestion and purplish discoloration. The pancreas has a tan lobular architecture. Multiple sections shows a patent duct.

    Skeletomuscular system: The clavicle, ribs, vertebrae and pelvic bones show fracture lines. All bones of the extremities are examined by palpation showing no evidence of fracture.

    Head and central nervous system: The brain weighs 1440 grams. Upon reflection of the scalp there is no evidence of contusion or hemorrhage. The temporal muscles are intact. Upon removal of the dura mater the cerebrospinal fluid is clear. The superficial vessels are slightly congested. The convolutions of the brain are not flattened. the contour of the brain is not distorted. No blood is found in the epidural, subdural or subarachnoid spaces. Multiple sections of the brain show the usual symmetrical ventricles and basal ganglia. Examination of the cerebellum and brain stem shows no gross abnormality. Following removal of the dura mater from the base of the skull and calvarium no skull fracture is demonstrated.

    Liver temperature taken at 10:30 A.M. registered 89 F

    Specimen: Unembalmed blood is taken for alcohol and barbiturate examination. Liver, kidney, stomach and contents, urine and intestine are saved for further toxicological study. A vaginal smear is made.

    T NOGUCHI, M.D. DEPUTY MEDICAL EXAMINER 8-13-62

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  • moonman kirjoitti:

    Coroner Thomas Noguchi conducted the operation. He was assisted by Eddy Day. Noguchi's findings were as follows.

    External examination: The unembalmed body is that of a 36-year-old well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female weighing 117 pounds and measuring 65-1/2 inches in length. The scalp is covered with bleached blond hair. The eyes are blue. The fixed lividitv is noted in the face, neck, chest, upper portions of arms and the right side of the abdomen. The faint lividity which disappears upon pressure is noted in the back and posterior aspect of the arms and legs. A slight ecchymotic area is noted in the left hip and left side of lower back. The breast shows no significant lesion. There is a horizontal 3-inch long surgical scar in the right upper quadrant of the abdomen. A suprapubic surgical scar measuring 5 inches in length is noted. The conjunctivae are markedly congested; however, no ecehymosis or petechiae are noted. The nose shows no evidence of fracture. The external auditory canals are not remarkable:. No evidence of trauma is noted in the scalp, forehead, cheeks, lips or chin. The neck shows no evidence of trauma. Examination of the hands and nails shows no defects. The lower extremities show no evidence of trauma.

    Body cavity: The usual Y-shaped incision is made to open the thoracic and abdominal cavities. The pleural and abdominal cavities contain no excess of fluid or blood. The mediastinum shows no shifting or widening. The diaphragm is within normal limits. The lower edge of the liver is within the costal margin. The organs are in normal position and relationship.

    Cardiovascular system: The heart weighs 300 grams. The pericardial cavity contains no excess of fluid. The epicardium and pericardium are smooth and glistening. The left ventricular wall measures 1.1 cm. and the right 0.2 cm. The papillary muscles are not hypertrophic. The chordae tendineac are not thickened or shortened. The valves have the usual number of leaflets which are thin and pliable. The tricuspid valve measures 10 cm., the pulmonary valve 6.5 cm., mitral valve 9.5 cm. and aortic valve 7 cm in circumference. There is no septal defect. The foramen ovale is closed. The coronary arteries arise from their usual location and are distributed in normal fashion. Multiple sections of the anterior descending branch of the left coronary artery with a 5 mm. interial demonstrate a patent lumen throughout. The circumflex branch and the right coronary artery also demonstrate a patent lumen. The pulmonary artery contains no thrombus. The aorta has a bright yellow smooth intima.

    Respiratory system: The right lung weighs 465 grams and the left 420 grams. Both lungs are moderately congested with some edema. The surface is dark and red with mottling. The posterior portion of the lungs show severe congestion. The tracheobronchial tree contains no aspirated material or blood. Multiple sections of the lungs show congestion and edematous fluid exuding from the cut surface. No consolidation or suppuration is noted. The mucosa of the larynx is grayish white.

    Liver and biliary system: The liver weighs 1890 grams. The surface is dark brown and smooth. There are marked adhesions through the omentum and abdominal wall in the lower portion of the liver as the gallbladder has been removed. The common duct is widely patent. No calculus or obstructive material is found. Multiple sections of the liver show slight accentuation of the lobular pattern; however, no hemorrhage or tumor is found.

    Hemic and lymphatic system: The spleen weighs 190 grams. The surface is dark red and smooth. Section shows dark red homogeneous firm cut surface. The Malpighian bodies are not clearly identified. There is no evidence of lymphadenopathy. The bone marrow is dark red in color. Endocrine system: The adrenal glands have the usual architectural cortex and medulla. The thyroid glands are of normal size, color and consistency. Urinary system: The kidneys together weigh 350 grams. Their capsules can be stripped without difficulty. Dissection shows a moderately congested parenchyma. The cortical surface is smooth. The pelves and ureters are not dilated or stenosed. The urinary bladder contains approximately 150 cc. of clear straw-colored fluid. The mucosa is not altered.

    Genital system: The external genitalia shows no gross abnormality. Distribution of the pubic hair is of female pattern. The uterus is of the usual size. Multiple sections of the uterus show the usual thickness of the uterine wall without tumor nodules. The endometrium is grayish yellow, measuring up to 0.2 cm in thickness. No polyp or tumor is found. The cervix is clear, showing no nabothian cysts. The tubes are intact. The right ovary demonstrates recent corpus luteum haemorrhagicum. The left ovary shows corpora lutea and albicantia. A vaginal smear is taken. Digestive system: The esophagus has a longitudinal folding mucosa. The stomach is almost completely empty. The contents is brownish mucoid fluid. The volume is estimated to be no more than 20 cc. No residue of the pills is noted. A smear made from the gastric contents and examined under the polarized microscope shows no refractile crystals. The mucosa shows marked congestion and submucosal petechial hemorrhage diffusely. The duodenum shows no ulcer. The contents of the duodenum is also examined under polarized microscope and shows no refractile crystals. The remainder of the small intestine shows no gross abnormality. The appendix is absent. The colon shows marked congestion and purplish discoloration. The pancreas has a tan lobular architecture. Multiple sections shows a patent duct.

    Skeletomuscular system: The clavicle, ribs, vertebrae and pelvic bones show fracture lines. All bones of the extremities are examined by palpation showing no evidence of fracture.

    Head and central nervous system: The brain weighs 1440 grams. Upon reflection of the scalp there is no evidence of contusion or hemorrhage. The temporal muscles are intact. Upon removal of the dura mater the cerebrospinal fluid is clear. The superficial vessels are slightly congested. The convolutions of the brain are not flattened. the contour of the brain is not distorted. No blood is found in the epidural, subdural or subarachnoid spaces. Multiple sections of the brain show the usual symmetrical ventricles and basal ganglia. Examination of the cerebellum and brain stem shows no gross abnormality. Following removal of the dura mater from the base of the skull and calvarium no skull fracture is demonstrated.

    Liver temperature taken at 10:30 A.M. registered 89 F

    Specimen: Unembalmed blood is taken for alcohol and barbiturate examination. Liver, kidney, stomach and contents, urine and intestine are saved for further toxicological study. A vaginal smear is made.

    T NOGUCHI, M.D. DEPUTY MEDICAL EXAMINER 8-13-62

    Marilyn Monroe was found dead
    as a result of a drug overdose
    in her bed in her Brentwood home,
    12305 Fifth Helena Dr Brentwood, CA,
    on the night of 8-4-62 ~ 8-5-62

    ?How and by whom her death was first noticed, what quantity of which drugs, administered in what fashion and by whom, how she ended up dead in that bed in that room, who did what? and other pertinent questions are unanswerable, given the lack of direct physical evidence, the contradictions within and between the witnesses' testimony, and the murking of the waters over time due to the retrospective suspicions cast on all involved.

    A variety of theories have evolved:

    1: Deliberate self-administered drug overdose.

    2: Accidental, self-administered drug overdose

    3: Accidental drug overdose administered by Eunice Murray by enema.

    4: Accidental death due to Dr Greenson giving her injection in heart.

    5: Deliberate overdose administered by Greenson or by Murray at Greenson's instruction.

    6: Deliberate overdose administered by Robert Kennedy and/or/with other accomplices (possibly federal agents) present.

    Marilyn herself, The Kennedys, the government, J. Edgar Hoover, the movie studio, the mafia, her housekeeper, her doctor, or any one of the above, alone, all, or in any combination with the others, have been suggested as suspects.

    Eight bottles of pills found in her bedroom by the coroner's representative, Guy Hockett, were itemized on the coroner's toxicology report as follows:

    1. 27 (out of a container of 50) LIBRIUM CAPSULES - 5 milligrams.

    2. 17 (out of a container of 100) LIBRIUM CAPSULES - 10 milligrams.

    3. 26 (out of a container of 36) SULFATHALLIDINE TABLETS

    4. Empty container (out of a container of 25) NEMBUTAL CAPSULES

    5. 10 (out of a container of 50) CHLORAL HYDRATE CAPSULES

    6. Empty container (out of a container of 50) NODULAR CAPSULES

    7. 32 pink/peach colored tablets named MDS, without label

    8. 24 (out of a container of 25) PHENERGAN, 25 milligrams

    Guy Hocket reportedly found 15 pill bottles and turned them over to the coroner's office, but only the 8 above were listed on the coroner's report.

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  • moonman kirjoitti:

    Marilyn Monroe was found dead
    as a result of a drug overdose
    in her bed in her Brentwood home,
    12305 Fifth Helena Dr Brentwood, CA,
    on the night of 8-4-62 ~ 8-5-62

    ?How and by whom her death was first noticed, what quantity of which drugs, administered in what fashion and by whom, how she ended up dead in that bed in that room, who did what? and other pertinent questions are unanswerable, given the lack of direct physical evidence, the contradictions within and between the witnesses' testimony, and the murking of the waters over time due to the retrospective suspicions cast on all involved.

    A variety of theories have evolved:

    1: Deliberate self-administered drug overdose.

    2: Accidental, self-administered drug overdose

    3: Accidental drug overdose administered by Eunice Murray by enema.

    4: Accidental death due to Dr Greenson giving her injection in heart.

    5: Deliberate overdose administered by Greenson or by Murray at Greenson's instruction.

    6: Deliberate overdose administered by Robert Kennedy and/or/with other accomplices (possibly federal agents) present.

    Marilyn herself, The Kennedys, the government, J. Edgar Hoover, the movie studio, the mafia, her housekeeper, her doctor, or any one of the above, alone, all, or in any combination with the others, have been suggested as suspects.

    Eight bottles of pills found in her bedroom by the coroner's representative, Guy Hockett, were itemized on the coroner's toxicology report as follows:

    1. 27 (out of a container of 50) LIBRIUM CAPSULES - 5 milligrams.

    2. 17 (out of a container of 100) LIBRIUM CAPSULES - 10 milligrams.

    3. 26 (out of a container of 36) SULFATHALLIDINE TABLETS

    4. Empty container (out of a container of 25) NEMBUTAL CAPSULES

    5. 10 (out of a container of 50) CHLORAL HYDRATE CAPSULES

    6. Empty container (out of a container of 50) NODULAR CAPSULES

    7. 32 pink/peach colored tablets named MDS, without label

    8. 24 (out of a container of 25) PHENERGAN, 25 milligrams

    Guy Hocket reportedly found 15 pill bottles and turned them over to the coroner's office, but only the 8 above were listed on the coroner's report.

    jos minä tuon oikein tajusin, niin oli sille syötetty tai hän oli itse syönyt aika monta pilleriä. hyi, oli inhottavaa lukia kuu tyyppi oli tonkinu marilynin aivoja, sydäntä ja "hänen pyhimpäänsä". hyh, ihnottavaa, en ikinä vois alkaa patologiksi.

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itsemurhan kourallisella unilääketabletteja.
Ruumiinavauksessa mahasta löytyi tabletteja.
Avattu purkki oli yöpöydällä sängyn vieressä.
Ei ole mitään syytä epäillä,että Marilyn murhattiin.

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jack 28

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jumpperin Marilyn kuihtui pois.

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Sen teki murhaaja ja syy oli saada Marilyn hengettömäksi!

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  • Olet todella taitava! Noin vähistä johtolangoista keksit ja selvitit kaikkien meidän mieltä vaivanneen mysteeriön.
    Onneksi olkoon!!! :-D

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syystä että Monroella oli suhde erääseen Suomalaiseen (!!?) herraan.

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  • Marilyn ei tehnyt itsemurhaa!!!! Hyi teitä jotka niin kuvittelette. Marilyn murhattiin..ja vaikka Marilynin ruumiista pillereitä löytyi, olisihan hänet voitu pakottaa ne ottamaan...kuten tiedätte..esim JFK:lla olisi ollut kyllä valtaa ja mammonaa hoitaa hänet pois tieltä. Mutta auttaako tämä kaivelu näin monen vuoden jälkeen mitään? Ei se Marilynia takaisin tuo!

    Marilynkin varmasti tahtoisi meidän vaan muistaa häntä, ja hyviä aikojaan..ilman kliseitä!

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surullinen... kirjoitti:

ja miksi???

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