Mitä ihmettä avuksi kun mulle jäi ton USA:aan kohdistuneen terroristi hyökkäyksen jälkeen pirunmoinen paniikki päälle?! Pelkään koko ajan että uutisissa ilmoitetaan tulevasta maailmanlopusta...näen painajaisiakin jatkuvasti sodasta ja maailmanlopusta. Olenko ainut.....
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Asetetaan asiat mittasuhteisiin. Ainut mitä pitää nyt pelätä on jenkit. Ja eivät ne Suomeen hyökkää.
World Trade Center ei ollut loppujen lopuksi mitään - jos ajatellaan amerikkalaisten harrastamaa "pommitetaas kaikki maan tasalle"-toimintaa.
Tällä hetkellä Israelin valtio harjoittaa paljon pahempaa terrorismia USA:n tukemana lähes päivittäin.
Afrikassa kuolee kansanmurhissa valtavasti enemmän ihmisiä kuin WTC:ssä - ja ketä kiinnostaa?
Relaa vain. Ei maailma lopu.
"Ainut mitä pitää nyt pelätä on jenkit. Ja eivät ne Suomeen ."
-mitä pelättävää on jenkeissä? minun nyt varmaan pitäisi pelätä miestäni...?! juu, ei ne jenkit suomeen hyökkää.
"World Trade Center ei ollut loppujen lopuksi mitään - jos ajatellaan amerikkalaisten harrastamaa "pommitetaas kaikki maan tasalle"-toimintaa."
-sinäpä tunnut tietävän hyvin amerikkalaisten harrastuksia?
"Afrikassa kuolee kansanmurhissa valtavasti enemmän ihmisiä kuin WTC:ssä - ja ketä kiinnostaa?"
-ei sinua varmaan kiinnosta mikään niin kauan kuin se ei koske suomea?
ja by the way, kun puhut yleisesti ottaen "amerikkalaisista", tarkoittaa se siis kanadalaisia, yhdysvaltalaisia, meksikolaisia ja kaikkia etelä-amerikassa asuvia. :) amerikka on erittäin laaja käsite.
Ja pilkun-nussiminen on paha sairaus.
korjasin hänen väärinkäsityksen. ei se ole pilkun nussimista.
maailma lähestyy loppuaan, se on raamatussakin ilmoitettu. eli vaikka kuinka toivoo, haluaa ja uskoo maailman muuttuvan paremmaksi, se ei todellisuudessa tule käymään...
Kyllähän maailmanloppu tulee.
Kun aurinko lakkaa toimimasta...(Raamatullahan ei ole tämän asian kanssa mitään tekemistä)
Tuota...tämä SB tuntui ihmettelevän sitä paljonko tiedän usalaisten harrastuksista. Vastaus: seuraan uutisia ja katson mitä usalaisten vapailla ja REHELLISILLÄ vaaleilla valittu REHELLINEN presidentti puhuu ja haluaa. Kansalla on sellainen presidentti kuin se ansaitsee. Oli Suomellakin aikanaan Martti Ahtisaari.
Hirveästi tuntui suututtavan. Oijoi. Sattuiko niin pahasti kun WTC:n menetykset asetetaan koko maapallon perspektiiviin? Ja ne eivät siitä näkökulmasta olekaan niin valtavat...suurimmat menetykset taloudellisia ja imagollisia.
"Kyllähän maailmanloppu tulee.
Kun aurinko lakkaa toimimasta...(Raamatullahan ei ole tämän asian kanssa mitään tekemistä)"
-silla on nimenomaan raamatun kanssa tekemista.
"Tuota...tämä SB tuntui ihmettelevän sitä paljonko tiedän usalaisten harrastuksista. Vastaus: seuraan uutisia ja katson mitä usalaisten vapailla ja REHELLISILLÄ vaaleilla valittu REHELLINEN presidentti puhuu ja haluaa. Kansalla on sellainen presidentti kuin se ansaitsee. Oli Suomellakin aikanaan Martti Ahtisaari."
-sina naytat uskovan aivan kaiken mita teeveesta tulee? puhuisit sitten vasta kun itse asuisit USAssa, niin tietaisit mista puhutaan!
"Hirveästi tuntui suututtavan. Oijoi. Sattuiko niin pahasti kun WTC:n menetykset asetetaan koko maapallon perspektiiviin? Ja ne eivät siitä näkökulmasta olekaan niin valtavat...suurimmat menetykset taloudellisia ja imagollisia"
-ei, en suuttunut. en minua se itse kuolleiden lukumaara niin hirvita, mutta se teko/tapahtuma oli kauhea, tapahtui se kenelle tahansa. mutta sina taidat olla yksi niista, joka ajatteli sen olevan sallittua ja hyva koska se tapahtui nimenomaan yhdysvaltalaisille, vaikka tuskinpa sina yhtakaan yhdysvaltalaista tunnet? ja niinkuin sanoin, tule ensin tanne maahan, USAan asumaan joksikin aikaan, niin tietaisit mista puhutaan.
Vai mitä?
Kerro minulle, mitä Raamattu puhuu auringosta?
Kun tunnet Raamatun niin hyvin - vakuuta minut?
Väitellään nyt kunnolla!!!
Uskon televisiosta sen mitä kuulen herra puskan (anteeksi - tuota en voi isolla kirjoittaa) itsensä sanovan. Vai luuletko että maailmanlaajuinen salaliitto on pannut herra presidentti puskan kaksoisolennon puhumaan televisiolähetykseen sitä paskaa mitä sieltä tosiaan tulee?
Niin...tapahtuma on kauhea - mutta haluaisin tietää kuinka paljon sinua satuttaa ne lukuisten siviilien kauheat kohtalot Irakissa, Afganistanissa, Palestiinassa - vai eikö niitä sieluja lasketa - nehän ovat arabeja!!!
Vielä lisäksi - USA:n kansalaisuus olisi minulla luultavasti 90% helpommin saatavilla kuin sinulla - jos sen haluaisin. Geneologia merkitsee nimittäin siinä hieman...
sina minulle vaahtoat? mita mina olen sinulle tehnyt?!
no, raamattu ei itsessaan paljoa puhu auringosta, se sanoo, etta lopunaikana se pimenee. ja pieni vinkki, en halua vaitella. miksi sina haluat vaitella?
"Niin...tapahtuma on kauhea - mutta haluaisin tietää kuinka paljon sinua satuttaa ne lukuisten siviilien kauheat kohtalot Irakissa, Afganistanissa, Palestiinassa - vai eikö niitä sieluja lasketa - nehän ovat arabeja!!!"
-miksi luulet, etten valita siita mita muille ihmisille tapahtuu? tottakai valitan! johan olet akainen kuin ampiainen! kyse oli siita viimevuotisesta iskusta new yorkissa, ja siita kuinka tuo eras henkilo sanoi, ettei valita siita periaatteessa patkan vertaa ja oli oikein USAlle.
"Vielä lisäksi - USA:n kansalaisuus olisi minulla luultavasti 90% helpommin saatavilla kuin sinulla - jos sen haluaisin. Geneologia merkitsee nimittäin siinä hieman... "
-vai on sinulla amerikkalaista geneettia? jaa. mistas sina tiedat minun taustoista ja taman hetkisista tilanteista yhtaan mitaan? ja miten tama amerikankansalaisuus ylipaatansa liitty tahan asiaan? mutta siita puheen ollen, mainittakoon, etta mina olen amerikan kansalainen.
jos olet tosissasi, lopeta uutisten katsominen.
Tuo WTC homma oli pelkästään USA:n hallinnon jäjestämä julkisuusjippo jonka avulla he saivat korvattua kylmän sodan loppumisen jättämän jännitetyhjiön, joka mm. rasitti maan öljy- ja sotatarviketeollisuuden taloudellista tilaa.
WTC:n tarkoituksena oli luoda uusi ulkoinen uhkakuva joka korvasi kommareiden katoamisen ... "terroristit" ovat mainio, diffuusi uhka, jonka varjolla voi tehdä suurinpiirtein mitä haluaa.
Lisää on odotettavissa ainoastaan jos "sota terrorismia" vastaan joutuu USA:n sisäiseen, tai kansainväliseen poliittiseen vastatuuleen.
Sotiahan asian tiimoilta käydään ja tullaan käymään vastakin mutta ne ovat pelkkää taloudellista toimintaa sellaisissa maissa joissa USA:lla on "poliittisia tai taloudellisia intressejä" eivätkä uhkaa Suomea.
Tavallisen tallaajan elämää tämä uusi tilanne tulee koskettamaan niissä 50-60 maassa jotka ovat Bushin taustalla hääräävän gangsterijengin tähtäimessä.
Samoin USA:ssa tullaan piakkoin näkemään "poliittisesti ei-toivottujen" henkilöiden katoamisia niihin yli 600 keskitysleiriin jotka on rakennettu tätä tilannetta silmälläpitäen jo vuosia sitten.
...ja Missähän nämä keskitysleirit sitten mahtavat sijaita?
Paskapuhetta.
Kerro se jenkeille.
Ihan kaikella ystävyydellä; ota edes hiukka selvää asioista ennenkuin alat paasaamaan täällä ... tuolla tyylillä teet vain itsesi naurunalaiseksi ... vaikka sehän on toki oma asiasi.
Congress of the United States
March 24, 1997
"Enclosed is the information you requested pertaining to the Army's policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison camps on Army installations. This information has not yet been published (it is currently at the printers), however, it has been funded, staffed, and does reflect current Army policy."
-- Bill Hefner
Member of Congress
Alla joitakin paikkakuntia.
ALABAMA
Opelika - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
ALASKA
Wilds of Alaska - east of Anchorage. No access by road, but there is a railway system. Facility holds 500,000 people. Projection: forced labor camp.
ARIZONA
Ft. Huachua - 20 miles from Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales Rex 84 Program. Projection: emergency custodial facility.
Pinal County, Gila River - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention facility.
12/9/99 Sedona - Top-secret United Nations (and/or U.S. military) secret military activity near the small tourist town of Sedona, Arizona.
Yuma County, Colorado River - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention facility.
ARKANSAS
Berryville FEMA facility - east of Eureka on Hwy 62. [near Tyson's property.]
Blytheville AFB - was closed; now a camp. Newly constructed wooden barracks surrounded by high barbed wire-topped fencing and guard towers.
Ft. Chaffee - has new aircraft runway and detention facility for 20,000 prisoners.
Jerome, Chicot/Drew Counties - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention facility.
Omaha FEMA facility - on Hwy 65, south of old wood processing plant, on a dirt road that leads to a toxic waste dump.
Rohwer, Descha County - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center.
CALIFORNIA
Ft. Irwin - Irwin is a remote mountain region south of Death Valley National Monument. Designated as inactive, there is a camp at this facility aprox. 30 miles from I-15 in Barstow.
Manzanar Camp, Inyo County - Deserted WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center
Oakdale - Rex 84 Program Emergency custodial facility. 90 miles east of San Francisco on Hwy 120. Holds a minimum of 15,000 people.
Tulelake, Modoc County - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center.
Vandenberg AFB - Rex 84 Program Emergency custodial facility. Midway between San Lonis Obispo and Santa Barbara on Hwy 1, close to Hwy 101.
COLORADO
Granada, Prowers County - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center.
Trinidad - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
FLORIDA
Camp Krome - near Miami Dept of Justice detention and interrogation facility.
Elgin AFB - Rex 84 Program Emergency custodial facility. Over 50 miles long, extending from Pensacola Bay to Hwy 331 in De Funiak Springs, adjacent to I-10 on the north, and Ft. Walton Beach vacation spot.
GEORGIA
Camilla, Mitchell County - FEMA facility on mount Zion road aprox. 5.7 miles south of Camilla. From Camilla, take Hwy 19 south, go 5.4 miles from 37/19 Junction to Mount Zion Road, turn left (east) on Mount Zion Road. Not manned or staffed yet.
Ft. Benning - Rex 84 Program Emergency custodial facility east of Columbia, near Georgia/Alabama state line. Prisoners may be brought in via Lawson Army airfield.
Morgan, Calhoun County - FEMA facility. Take I-75 Exit 32 to 300 South to Albany; then Hwy 234 to Morgan; go through Morgan on Hwy 45 South. Facility is 1.5 miles on right (west) side of Hwy 45. Fully manned and staffed, but no prisoners yet.
Oglethorpe, Macon County - FEMA facility 5 miles from Montezuma, 3 miles from Oglethorpe, on west side of Hwy 49. No staff or prisoners yet.
Unadilla, Macon County - FEMA facility on East Railroad Street 1.5 miles from Unadilla on County Rd 230. Plunket Road leads into the facility. Manned and staffed, but no prisoners yet.
IDAHO
Kooskia - 50 plus miles east, near Lolo Pass and Moose Creek, near a landing strip and a national forest. Unmanned.
Minidoka, Jerome County - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center.
ILLINOIS
Marseilles - small facility on the Illinois River, on Hwy 6, off I-80, relatively close to Chicago. Holds 1400 prisoners. Surrounded by high barbed wire-topped fencing and guard towers.
INDIANA
Ft. Benjamin, Harrison - U.S. Army facility on the outskirts of Indianapolis.
Ft. Wayne - FEMA detention facility.
12/9/99 Grissom Air Force Base - The facility is surrounded by high barbed wire, and lights. These structures are readily visible from US 31.
Indianapolis - massive concentration camp facility on thousands of acres just outside Indianapolis. Includes barracks, razor wire-topped fencing, guard towers, turnstiles, railroad, helicopter landing pads; and what appears to be 3 large furnaces with 3-inch mains on one of the buildings. Under construction.
Terre Haute - FEMA detention facility.
KANSAS
Concordia - WWII German/Italian POW Camp. Under renovation.
Eldorado - Federal prison to be converted to UN forced labor facility. There are 2 that are run by the state: an honor camp by the lake, and a maximum security prison aprox. 1 mile east on US-54. Somewhere in the area is a WWII prison camp, but it has not been located yet.
Leavenworth - U.S. Marshall Federal Holding facility PFP.
Topeka - 80 acres converted to a holding camp for prisoners.
KENTUCKY
Lexington - FEMA detention facility.
Lonisville - FEMA detention facility.
LOUISIANA
Livingston - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
MAINE
Houlton - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
MASSACHUSETTS
Fort Devens - New prison a factory facilities and reservoir that have been built around the camp. It was constructed last year and the railroad had to reconstruct tracks into the prison from Canada and from Boston. Livingston
MICHIGAN
Bay City - on Saginaw Bay surrounded by high barbed wire-topped fencing and guard towers. Connected to Lake Huron. Prisoners may be brought in by water from either the U.S. or Canada.
Central MI - FEMA detention facility.
Detroit - FEMA detention facility.
12/9/99 Fort Custer (near Battle Creek, Michigan) - has a "Prison camp". Also have received reports of FEMA "Box cars" riding the rails through Battle Creek and making stops in or around Fort Custer.
12/9/99 Grayling, National Guard training base - reports of Latvian troops in large numbers (700 ) stationed at Camp. All reportees are considered by this Intelligence officer as "very reliable".
Southwest MI - FEMA detention facility.
MISSISSIPPI
Hancock County - NASA facility on old toxic waste dump with 2 camps: one at the end of Kiln Road at Waveland, then the next road after Ammo Road at the Post Office; and one in the center of a rest station back from the Interstate.
[Inmates from the Hancock County Jail claim they have worked details involving the delivery of food to these camps under the supervision of UN guards. One individual claims that one of these camps is full of European men, women and children, all at the same compound. He said that the UN guards were severely beating prisoners, who appeared to be involved in forced labor. It is impossible to verify this information at this time.
MISSOURI
Richards Gebaur AFB, Grandview - large civilian internment facility. AFB personnel are restricted from the area.
12/9/99 Warsaw - Unconfirmed report of a large concentration camp facility.
NEBRASKA
Northeast corner NE - FEMA detention facility.
Northwest corner NE - FEMA detention facility.
Scottsbluff - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
South-central Hastings - FEMA detention facility.
NEVADA
Elco - prison facility 10 miles from Elco.
Las Vegas - From Range Road and Las Vegas Blvd North, across from Nellis AFB, go west on Range Road aprox. 7 miles. Go under I-15 and you'll see a new 6-foot high chain link fence and sliding road gate. Signs say "RESTRICTED AREA. AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY". Approx. 1 mile after that is the Nevada National Guard compound, and the camp is on the right next to the RR tracks.
Reno - 150 miles south on east side of road, 150 yards from road.
Wells - 40 miles north of Wells in O'niel Basin Area, 25 miles west off Hwy 93.
Winnemucca - at I-80 mile marker 112, 3/4 miles off the road on the south side, near the base of the mountains.
New Mexico
12/9/99 Fort Stanton - currently being used as a youth detention facility approximately 35 miles north of Ruidoso, New Mexico. We do not have a great deal of information concerning the Lordsburg location. However, we have been informed by several people at Holloman AFB near Alamogordo, NM that a new facility was just completed there a few months ago.
12/9/99 White Sands - Missile Range: is being used as a storage facility for United Nations Vehicles and equipment. We have seen them bring this material in on the Whitesands rail spur in Oro Grande New Mexico about thirty miles from the Texas, New Mexico Border.
12/9/99 Holloman AFB - is being very quickly taken over by the German Luftwaft, and they have been doing extensive building, destroying many of the USAF building that have been there for several years.
NEW YORK
Albany - FEMA detention facility.
Buffalo - FEMA detention facility.
Ft. Drum - upstate New York near St. Lawrence River and Lake Ontario, close to Canada. Probable location for eastern processing for prisoners. Both waterways may be used for transport.
Watertown - FEMA detention facility.
OHIO
Cincinnati - FEMA detention facility
Cleveland - FEMA detention facility.
Columbus - FEMA detention facility.
Lima - FEMA detention facility.
OKLAHOMA
McAlester - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
Tinker AFB, Oklahoma City - civilian detention facility. AFB personnel are prohibited from going near the area, which is under constant guard.
Will Rogers Airport - new FEMA facility. Probable processing center for prisoners west of the Mississippi River.
OREGON
12/9/99 Sheridan - FEMA detention center
12/9/99 Portland - reports that rail boxcars are being built in by FMC corp. that are prisoner transport cars with 144 shackle stations per car.
12/9/99 Umatilla - Prison cells spotted.
PENNSYLVANIA
Camp Hill - off I-15, close to Cumberland Army Depot and Camp Hill correctional facility, across the navigable Susquehanna River from Harrisburg.
Ft. Indiantown Gap Military Reservation - WWII POW camp north of Harrisburg. Renovated by President Jimmy Carter for Cubans during the Mariel boatlift.
TENNESSEE
Crossville - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
12/9/99 Nashville - There are two buildings in Nashville, TN built on State property - that are definitely built to hold prisoners. They are identical buildings - side by side.
TEXAS
Amarillo - FEMA detention facility.
12/9/99 Beaumont Port Arthur area - thousands of acres of federal camps already built on the order of detention camp sesign complete with the double row chain link fencing with the razor styled concertina wire on top of each row. Some but not all of these facilities are currently being used for low-risk prisoners who require a minimum of supervision. However, any of these facilities could be returned into an armed internment detection center within a 24-hr. period.
12/9/99 Ft. Bliss, El Paso - Been undergoing extensive renovation of buildings and from what we have been able to see, many of these buildings that are being renovated are being surrounded by razor wire.
Ft. Hood - newly constructed concentration camp. Surrounded by high barbed wire-topped fencing and guard towers.
Mexia - WWII German/Italian POW camp. Under renovation.
Princeton - WWII POW camp on north side of Denton Hwy. Under renovation.
12/9/99 Ft. Worth - Federal prison under construction on the old Carswell AFB.
UTAH
Millard County - in central Utah, Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center.
Camp Williams, Skull Valley - west of the old bombing range in the south/southwestern portion of Camp Williams. Discovered by a man and his son while rabbit hunting. They were discovered and apprehended.
Utah Lake - 15 miles south of Saratoga Recreation Center 200-300 yds off the road. Surrounded by 40-50-foot high black wire. Made to look something like a golf driving range.
VIRGINIA
Camp A.P. Hill
WASHINGTON STATE
Okanogan County - site for massive concentration camp, bordering Canada. Will be capable of holding hundreds of thousands of prisoners.
12/9/99 Seattle/Spokan West of Vantage - Prison cells spotted.
WISCONSIN
Central WI - FEMA detention facility.
Ft. McCoy - Rex 84 Program Emergency custodial facility in western WI, 30 miles east of Lacrosse, between the point where 90 and 94 intersect.
WYOMING
East Yellowstone - manned facility. Investigators were apprehended by Foreign soldiers. They were unable to identify the language used by the soldiers.
North-central WY - FEMA detention facility.
Park County, Hart Mountain - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center.
Southeastern WY - FEMA detention facility.
Southwestern WY - FEMA detention facility.
The 10 Federal Regions
Region I: Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont Regional Capitol: Boston
Region II: New York, New Jersey, Puerto Rico, Virgin Island
Regional Capitol: New York City
REGION III: Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, District of Columbia.
Regional Capitol: Philadelphia
REGION IV: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, Tennessee
Regional Capitol: Atlanta
REGION V: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Wisconsin
Regional Capitol: Chicago
REGION VI: Arkansas, Lonisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas
Regional Capitol: Dallas-Fort Worth
REGION VII: Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska
Regional Capitol: Kansas City
REGION VIII: Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Wyoming Regional Capitol: Denver
REGION IX: Arizona, California, Hawaii, Nevada
Regional Capitol: San Francisco
REGION X: Alaska, Oregon, Washington, Idaho
Regional Capitol: Seattle
Supplementing these 10 Regions, each of the States is, or is to be, divided into subregions, so that Federal Executive control is provided over every community. Then, controlling the budgeting and the programming at every level is that politico-economic system known as PPBS. The President need not wait for some emergency such as an impeachment ouster. He can declare a National Emergency at any time, and freeze everything, just as he has already frozen wages and prices. And the Congress, and the States, are powerless to prevent such an Executive Dictatorship, unless Congress moves to revoke these extraordinary powers before the Chief Executive moves to invoke them.
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