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Israel suuri bordelli

http://pappa.20m.com/Ina_Friedman_Victoria.htm

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"Tuhansia naisia on kuljetettu Israeliin joka vuosi prostituoiduiksi. Monet heistä vastoin tahtoaan, välittäjien raiskaamina ja pahoinpiteleminä."

"Totuus uudesta työstä oli riipaiseva: Hänelle kerrottiin että "työnvälittäjä" oli myynyt hänet bordelliin, ja Victorian täytyi hankkia "työllään" oma ostohintansa 6.500 USD ennenkuin hän voisi päästä vapaaksi tai pitää tulonsa itsellään. Häneltä vaadittiin myös omistajan ja tämän ystävien palvelemista seksillä. Tyytyväisten asiakkaiden maksamat tipit hän saisi pitää."

""Meitä pidettiin lukkojen takana tai vartioituina koko ajan, ja meitä kuljetettiin paikasta toiseen", kertoo Victoria kun kysyn miksi hän ei paennut. "Eikä minulla olisi ollut rahaa eikä passia kotimatkaan."

Koska hän oli tullut Israeliin laittomasti, hän pelkäsi viranomaisia. Hänellä oli myös syitä epäillä, että paikallinen poliisi oli yhteydessä hänen "omistajiinsa". Poliiseja oli ollut asiakkaiden joukossa eräässä niistä paikoista joissa hän "palveli". "Heillä oli uniformut ja partioautot odottivat heitä ulkopuolella."
Eniten Victoria pelkäsi kuitenkin vangitsijoitaan. "He uhkailivat, että jos karkaan, he etsivät minut Moldovasta ja voin olla varma että he kostavat."

11 kuukauden aikana Victoria työskenteli useissa bordelleissa, asuinhuoneistoissa ja hotelleissa Beershebassa ja Tel Avivissa kello kymmenestä aamulla yhteentoista illalla, seitsemän päivää viikossa, palvellen 10-20 asiakasta päivässä. Viisi kertaa hänet myytiin parittajalta toiselle, ja jokainen näistä pakotti hänet hankkimaan ostohintaansa takaisin."

http://pappa.20m.com/valimerensuuribordelli.htm

"Itä-Euroopasta ihmiskaupatut naiset riisutaan ja myydään alastomina Tel Avivin orjamarkkinoilla, hintaan 500-1000 USD. Bordellien omistajat toimivat yhteistyössä poliisin kanssa naisten salakuljettamisessa maahan ja väärien papereiden järjestämisessä. Pahoinpitelyt ja seksuaalinen väkivalta kuuluvat tyttöjen tavanomaiseen kohteluun.

Women trafficked from Eastern Europe, were stripped and sold naked as slaves to Tel Aviv traders for US$500-1,000. Smuggling, fraudulent documents, collaboration between police and brothel owners are involved. There are routine brutal beatings and sexual abuse. ( New York Times 11.01.-98 )"

Jos bordellien laillistajat saavat tahtonsa lävitse, tämä juutalainen meno tulee Suomeenkin.
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Vanhimmat

Tarkempaa osoitetta siitä, missä näitä huoria pääsisi kokeilemaan. Jos menisikin seuraavalle reissulle Israeliin.. Kuulostaisi jopa kulttuurimatkalta.

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Jos olisit joskus Israelissa käynyt, niin tietäisit, että prostituutiosta ja kaikkeen siihen liittyvästä voi saada siellä 20 vuoden vankeustuomion. Maahan on käytännössä mahdotonta päästä ilman asianmukaisia papereita ja korruptio ei-muslimeiden piirissä on olematonta. Itse olen ollut Tel Avivissa ja Jerusalemissa yhteensä 11 vuotta ja tunnen kyllä maan tavat.

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  • Tiedän tuon itekkin. Taitaa olla pikku-aatu nyt kylvämässä juutalaisvihaa tännekin palstalle. Toivottavasti ylläpito poistaa tuon viestin, koska se on täysin asiaton.

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  • höpiset kirjoitti:

    Tiedän tuon itekkin. Taitaa olla pikku-aatu nyt kylvämässä juutalaisvihaa tännekin palstalle. Toivottavasti ylläpito poistaa tuon viestin, koska se on täysin asiaton.

    Israel on kaikkein tarkimmin vartioitu maa maailmassa - muutenhan palestiinalais- ja arabiterroristit olisivat jo räjäyttäneet Tel Avivin tuusan nuuskaksi. Ei sinne noin vain salakuljeteta naisia laittomiin bordelleihin. Eli aloitusjuttu oli täydellistä soopaa - ei totuuden hiventäkään.

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  • Malarek kertoi, miten raja ylitetään kamelikaravaanilla Egyptistä Isreliin, ja tytöt vain komennettiin hetkeksi makaamaan maahan, kun Isrelin rajavartijat partioivat ohi.
    raja on helppo kokeneen salakuljettajan ylittää.

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  • Malrekin lukija kirjoitti:

    Malarek kertoi, miten raja ylitetään kamelikaravaanilla Egyptistä Isreliin, ja tytöt vain komennettiin hetkeksi makaamaan maahan, kun Isrelin rajavartijat partioivat ohi.
    raja on helppo kokeneen salakuljettajan ylittää.

    Vai kamelikaravaanilla! Ja suunta otetaan tähdistä! Tuhannen ja yhden yön tarinoista voi lukea jatkon.

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  • Totta on että.Juutalainennenä.Haistaa rahanhajun
    5km vastatuuleenkin!

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  • Palturia kirjoitti:

    Vai kamelikaravaanilla! Ja suunta otetaan tähdistä! Tuhannen ja yhden yön tarinoista voi lukea jatkon.

    Sen kummemmin asiaan kantaa ottamatta voin sanoa, että Egyptin ja Israelin rajan yli kulkee yhtä sun toista laitonta kamelikaravaaneilla. Osa kameleista on jopa opetettu kulkemaan huumeiden salakuljetusreitit yksin, joten jos kameli jää kiinni kokolasti selässään, niin omistaja ei jää kiinni. Eli ei ole mitään tuhannen ja yhden yön tarinoita.

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  • Tietoviisas kirjoitti:

    Israel on kaikkein tarkimmin vartioitu maa maailmassa - muutenhan palestiinalais- ja arabiterroristit olisivat jo räjäyttäneet Tel Avivin tuusan nuuskaksi. Ei sinne noin vain salakuljeteta naisia laittomiin bordelleihin. Eli aloitusjuttu oli täydellistä soopaa - ei totuuden hiventäkään.

    "... Eli aloitusjuttu oli täydellistä soopaa - ei totuuden hiventäkään."

    Julkaistu alunperin "The Jerusalem Reportussa", jolla on hyvä maine luotettavana sanomalehtenä.

    Toimittaja Ina Friedman on mm.haastatellut pääministerejä ja kirjoittanut kirjoja Israelin politiikasta.

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Malarekin toinen painopistealue on Israel, jossa miljoona miestä ostaa seksiä viikoittain.
Israel on mielenkiintoinen siksi, että se edustaa ns. vanhan testamentin moraalia.

Vanhan testamentin moraalisäädösten mukaan mies ei syyllisty miniäkään syntiin maatessaan orjan, jalkavaimon tai prostituoidun kanssa. Sen sijaan israelilaisen naisen seksikäyttäytyminen on tarkasti vartioitu.

Toisaalta vanha testamentti antaa luvan pitää orjia, mutta sillä ehdolla, että nämä ovat naapurikansojen edustajia.

Victor Kallborrek kuvaa myös kirjassaan hyvin, miten ortodoksijuutalaiset miehet ovat vaikeuksissa, koska Vanha Testamentti kieltää jyrkästi siementen tuhlaamisen. Sen takia nämä miehet eivät saa masturboida, ja prostituoituja käyttäessään he yrittävät aina maksamalla lisää saada ilman kondomia.

Tässä nyt näkyy, miten prostituutio on hyvin riippuvainen kielteisestä suhtautumisesta seksiin. Mitä vapaamielisempi yhteiskunta on, sitä vähemmän on prostituutiota, kun seksiä saa muutenkin.

Valitettavasti Suomessa nyt lesbot ja naispoliitikot ovat purkamassa omia ahdistuksiaan liittoutumalla kaikkein konservatiivisempien uskonnollisten ryhmien kanssa ja kääntävät historian pyörää suomalaisessa vapaamielisyydessä kolmekymmentä vuotta taaksepäin.

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  • Kyllä se rajayhteistyö pelaa arabien ja israelilaisten kesken, kun siirtotavarana ovat nuoret naiset. Kaikkihan ne niitä panevat ja vielä kehuvat toisilleen kuinka hyviä he olivat. Niinhän minäkin tekisin. Sääli, että Laihian ja Vähänkyrön välillä ei vain kyseistä naissalakuljetusta esiinny. HUOM! ääliöt. tämä oli kännissä kirjoitettu provo. mulla ei ole paskankaan tietoa tilanteesta välillä Israel joku arabimaa. Mulla seisoo aina. Voiskohan se seisoa Israelilaisellakin ja jos vaimo ei anna johonkin syyhyn vedoten, niin aavikolla voi olla kivaa vaikka kamelin kanssa.

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tekstiä. Ja TÄYTTÄ PASKAA. Israelissa saa sutenöörit elinkautisen kiinni jäädessään. Olin rauhanturvaajana siellä aikoinaan. Siihen maahan ei pääse vahingossakaan, koko egyptin raja on miinoitettu ja muut rajat niin tarkasti vartioituja, että sinne on mahdotonta päästä. Poliisiratsioita vähän väliä jne. Rannikkokin on erittäin tarkasti vartioitu, on itsemurha yrittää pyrkiä sinne muita kuin normaaleja teitä.

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  • AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
    PRESS RELEASE

    Amnesty International Public document - AI Index MDE 15/024/2000 - News Service Nr. 91
    Embargoed for : 18/05/2000 00:01 GMT

    Israeli government must stop human rights abuses against trafficked women

    "I had a nervous breakdown. I wanted to escape from this place and asked a client to help me. He turned out to be one of them and I was beaten up by the owners. There was nowhere to run -- there were bars on the windows and bodyguards all the time, day and night." (Testimony of a woman trafficked from Moldova)

    The Israeli government is failing to protect the human rights of women and girls who are trafficked from countries of the former Soviet Union to work in Israel's sex industry, Amnesty International said today in a new report.

    "Many of these women and girls become 'commodities', literally bought and sold for thousands of dollars or held in debt bondage. They are locked up in apartments and have their passports and travel tickets confiscated. Many women are subjected to violence, including rape. Yet most of the people who commit such human rights abuses are never brought to justice by the Israeli government," the organization said.

    Anna, a 31-year-old physics teacher from the Russian Federation was lured to Israel by the promise of a job in the sex industry earning 20 times her Russian salary. When she arrived, her passport was taken from her and she was locked in an apartment with bars on the windows along with six other women from former Soviet Union countries. She was auctioned twice, on the second occasion for US$10,000. The women were rarely allowed to leave the apartment and never allowed out alone. Much of the money they earned was extorted from them by their pimps.

    The worldwide phenomenon of trafficking in human beings has attracted increased attention in recent years from governments and intergovernmental organizations. But governments have tended to ignore the human rights abuses to which trafficked persons are subjected, instead viewing trafficking primarily as an issue of organized crime and illegal immigration.

    Rather than taking action against human rights abuses experienced by the women, Israeli governmental agencies in effect treat them as criminals, by holding women in detention for extended periods, for example. In 1998, the UN Human Rights Committee expressed its regret that "women brought to Israel for the purposes of prostitution ... are not protected as victims of trafficking but are likely to bear the penalties of their illegal presence in Israel by deportation."

    Many trafficked women end up in detention in a police lock-up or Neve Tirza prison following raids on brothels and massage parlours by the police and they are rarely released on bail pending deportation. Others may be detained for longer, sometimes because the Ministry of Justice has issued an order preventing the woman from leaving the country until she has testified in a criminal case.

    Israeli officials maintain that it is difficult to bring to justice persons who commit human rights abuses against women in sex work who are illegally in the country. However, various Israeli laws and policies, in particular the strict enforcement of immigration laws against these women, actually make prosecutions difficult.

    Moreover, many women are afraid to file complaints with the Israel Police or testify in court because they fear they will be imprisoned, deported or be subjected to further human rights abuses in Israel or abroad. Despite these realistic fears, the government officials tend to blame the women for not cooperating with the police and the criminal justice system.

    As a result of lobbying by local non-governmental organizations, Israel has taken some steps that would help combat human rights abuses against women in these circumstances, particularly in the field of legislation. In March 2000 the Knesset (Israel's Parliament) passed the Equality of Women Law, which states that every woman is entitled to protection from violence, sexual harassment, sexual exploitation and trafficking in her person. The Ministry of Justice is said to be drafting a provision to criminalize the buying and selling of persons.

    Amnesty International believes that the steps taken by Israel are insufficient and it is urging the Israeli government to respect its obligations under international law to ensure the human rights of all who are in its territory. Amnesty International is recommending that the Israeli government should develop a strategy to ensure there is coordinated and effective action by key government agencies, such as the Ministry of the Interior, the Israel Police, the Israel Prisons Service and the Office of the State Attorney, to ensure the protection of these rights. NGOs should be consulted and invited to contribute to developing effective policies.

    The organization is also calling for increased international cooperation between Israel and the governments of former Soviet Union countries and transit states to combat these human rights abuses.
    "Both the government and the traffickers are treating these women as if they do not have human rights. The authorities have a responsibility to take action to protect the against enslavement, deprivation of liberty and violence," Amnesty International said.

    Background
    The human rights abuses experienced by women trafficked into Israel's sex industry include enslavement, including debt bondage; deprivation of liberty, for example by confiscating women's passports and other travel documents or threatening them with violence if they escape; violations of the right to bodily integrity, including subjection to violence including rape and other forms of coerced sexual activity; denial of health services and other risks to health rights such as exposure to HIV/AIDS because of coercive work conditions and denial of condom use. Many sex workers who have not been trafficked are subjected to human rights abuses.

    Amnesty International notes that although this report focuses on human rights abuses committed against women from the former Soviet Union working in the sex industry, women also face human rights abuses when they are trafficked for other purposes including domestic work, bonded labour and servile forms of marriage. ENDS.../

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  • Niin mikä olikaan "pas... kirjoitti:

    AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
    PRESS RELEASE

    Amnesty International Public document - AI Index MDE 15/024/2000 - News Service Nr. 91
    Embargoed for : 18/05/2000 00:01 GMT

    Israeli government must stop human rights abuses against trafficked women

    "I had a nervous breakdown. I wanted to escape from this place and asked a client to help me. He turned out to be one of them and I was beaten up by the owners. There was nowhere to run -- there were bars on the windows and bodyguards all the time, day and night." (Testimony of a woman trafficked from Moldova)

    The Israeli government is failing to protect the human rights of women and girls who are trafficked from countries of the former Soviet Union to work in Israel's sex industry, Amnesty International said today in a new report.

    "Many of these women and girls become 'commodities', literally bought and sold for thousands of dollars or held in debt bondage. They are locked up in apartments and have their passports and travel tickets confiscated. Many women are subjected to violence, including rape. Yet most of the people who commit such human rights abuses are never brought to justice by the Israeli government," the organization said.

    Anna, a 31-year-old physics teacher from the Russian Federation was lured to Israel by the promise of a job in the sex industry earning 20 times her Russian salary. When she arrived, her passport was taken from her and she was locked in an apartment with bars on the windows along with six other women from former Soviet Union countries. She was auctioned twice, on the second occasion for US$10,000. The women were rarely allowed to leave the apartment and never allowed out alone. Much of the money they earned was extorted from them by their pimps.

    The worldwide phenomenon of trafficking in human beings has attracted increased attention in recent years from governments and intergovernmental organizations. But governments have tended to ignore the human rights abuses to which trafficked persons are subjected, instead viewing trafficking primarily as an issue of organized crime and illegal immigration.

    Rather than taking action against human rights abuses experienced by the women, Israeli governmental agencies in effect treat them as criminals, by holding women in detention for extended periods, for example. In 1998, the UN Human Rights Committee expressed its regret that "women brought to Israel for the purposes of prostitution ... are not protected as victims of trafficking but are likely to bear the penalties of their illegal presence in Israel by deportation."

    Many trafficked women end up in detention in a police lock-up or Neve Tirza prison following raids on brothels and massage parlours by the police and they are rarely released on bail pending deportation. Others may be detained for longer, sometimes because the Ministry of Justice has issued an order preventing the woman from leaving the country until she has testified in a criminal case.

    Israeli officials maintain that it is difficult to bring to justice persons who commit human rights abuses against women in sex work who are illegally in the country. However, various Israeli laws and policies, in particular the strict enforcement of immigration laws against these women, actually make prosecutions difficult.

    Moreover, many women are afraid to file complaints with the Israel Police or testify in court because they fear they will be imprisoned, deported or be subjected to further human rights abuses in Israel or abroad. Despite these realistic fears, the government officials tend to blame the women for not cooperating with the police and the criminal justice system.

    As a result of lobbying by local non-governmental organizations, Israel has taken some steps that would help combat human rights abuses against women in these circumstances, particularly in the field of legislation. In March 2000 the Knesset (Israel's Parliament) passed the Equality of Women Law, which states that every woman is entitled to protection from violence, sexual harassment, sexual exploitation and trafficking in her person. The Ministry of Justice is said to be drafting a provision to criminalize the buying and selling of persons.

    Amnesty International believes that the steps taken by Israel are insufficient and it is urging the Israeli government to respect its obligations under international law to ensure the human rights of all who are in its territory. Amnesty International is recommending that the Israeli government should develop a strategy to ensure there is coordinated and effective action by key government agencies, such as the Ministry of the Interior, the Israel Police, the Israel Prisons Service and the Office of the State Attorney, to ensure the protection of these rights. NGOs should be consulted and invited to contribute to developing effective policies.

    The organization is also calling for increased international cooperation between Israel and the governments of former Soviet Union countries and transit states to combat these human rights abuses.
    "Both the government and the traffickers are treating these women as if they do not have human rights. The authorities have a responsibility to take action to protect the against enslavement, deprivation of liberty and violence," Amnesty International said.

    Background
    The human rights abuses experienced by women trafficked into Israel's sex industry include enslavement, including debt bondage; deprivation of liberty, for example by confiscating women's passports and other travel documents or threatening them with violence if they escape; violations of the right to bodily integrity, including subjection to violence including rape and other forms of coerced sexual activity; denial of health services and other risks to health rights such as exposure to HIV/AIDS because of coercive work conditions and denial of condom use. Many sex workers who have not been trafficked are subjected to human rights abuses.

    Amnesty International notes that although this report focuses on human rights abuses committed against women from the former Soviet Union working in the sex industry, women also face human rights abuses when they are trafficked for other purposes including domestic work, bonded labour and servile forms of marriage. ENDS.../

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Niin mikä olikaan "pas... kirjoitti:

    AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
    PRESS RELEASE

    Amnesty International Public document - AI Index MDE 15/024/2000 - News Service Nr. 91
    Embargoed for : 18/05/2000 00:01 GMT

    Israeli government must stop human rights abuses against trafficked women

    "I had a nervous breakdown. I wanted to escape from this place and asked a client to help me. He turned out to be one of them and I was beaten up by the owners. There was nowhere to run -- there were bars on the windows and bodyguards all the time, day and night." (Testimony of a woman trafficked from Moldova)

    The Israeli government is failing to protect the human rights of women and girls who are trafficked from countries of the former Soviet Union to work in Israel's sex industry, Amnesty International said today in a new report.

    "Many of these women and girls become 'commodities', literally bought and sold for thousands of dollars or held in debt bondage. They are locked up in apartments and have their passports and travel tickets confiscated. Many women are subjected to violence, including rape. Yet most of the people who commit such human rights abuses are never brought to justice by the Israeli government," the organization said.

    Anna, a 31-year-old physics teacher from the Russian Federation was lured to Israel by the promise of a job in the sex industry earning 20 times her Russian salary. When she arrived, her passport was taken from her and she was locked in an apartment with bars on the windows along with six other women from former Soviet Union countries. She was auctioned twice, on the second occasion for US$10,000. The women were rarely allowed to leave the apartment and never allowed out alone. Much of the money they earned was extorted from them by their pimps.

    The worldwide phenomenon of trafficking in human beings has attracted increased attention in recent years from governments and intergovernmental organizations. But governments have tended to ignore the human rights abuses to which trafficked persons are subjected, instead viewing trafficking primarily as an issue of organized crime and illegal immigration.

    Rather than taking action against human rights abuses experienced by the women, Israeli governmental agencies in effect treat them as criminals, by holding women in detention for extended periods, for example. In 1998, the UN Human Rights Committee expressed its regret that "women brought to Israel for the purposes of prostitution ... are not protected as victims of trafficking but are likely to bear the penalties of their illegal presence in Israel by deportation."

    Many trafficked women end up in detention in a police lock-up or Neve Tirza prison following raids on brothels and massage parlours by the police and they are rarely released on bail pending deportation. Others may be detained for longer, sometimes because the Ministry of Justice has issued an order preventing the woman from leaving the country until she has testified in a criminal case.

    Israeli officials maintain that it is difficult to bring to justice persons who commit human rights abuses against women in sex work who are illegally in the country. However, various Israeli laws and policies, in particular the strict enforcement of immigration laws against these women, actually make prosecutions difficult.

    Moreover, many women are afraid to file complaints with the Israel Police or testify in court because they fear they will be imprisoned, deported or be subjected to further human rights abuses in Israel or abroad. Despite these realistic fears, the government officials tend to blame the women for not cooperating with the police and the criminal justice system.

    As a result of lobbying by local non-governmental organizations, Israel has taken some steps that would help combat human rights abuses against women in these circumstances, particularly in the field of legislation. In March 2000 the Knesset (Israel's Parliament) passed the Equality of Women Law, which states that every woman is entitled to protection from violence, sexual harassment, sexual exploitation and trafficking in her person. The Ministry of Justice is said to be drafting a provision to criminalize the buying and selling of persons.

    Amnesty International believes that the steps taken by Israel are insufficient and it is urging the Israeli government to respect its obligations under international law to ensure the human rights of all who are in its territory. Amnesty International is recommending that the Israeli government should develop a strategy to ensure there is coordinated and effective action by key government agencies, such as the Ministry of the Interior, the Israel Police, the Israel Prisons Service and the Office of the State Attorney, to ensure the protection of these rights. NGOs should be consulted and invited to contribute to developing effective policies.

    The organization is also calling for increased international cooperation between Israel and the governments of former Soviet Union countries and transit states to combat these human rights abuses.
    "Both the government and the traffickers are treating these women as if they do not have human rights. The authorities have a responsibility to take action to protect the against enslavement, deprivation of liberty and violence," Amnesty International said.

    Background
    The human rights abuses experienced by women trafficked into Israel's sex industry include enslavement, including debt bondage; deprivation of liberty, for example by confiscating women's passports and other travel documents or threatening them with violence if they escape; violations of the right to bodily integrity, including subjection to violence including rape and other forms of coerced sexual activity; denial of health services and other risks to health rights such as exposure to HIV/AIDS because of coercive work conditions and denial of condom use. Many sex workers who have not been trafficked are subjected to human rights abuses.

    Amnesty International notes that although this report focuses on human rights abuses committed against women from the former Soviet Union working in the sex industry, women also face human rights abuses when they are trafficked for other purposes including domestic work, bonded labour and servile forms of marriage. ENDS.../

    Katso tekstin päiväys

    Seksi on kiellettävä Suomessa, koska maailman nopeasti muuttuessa ihmissalakuljetuksen muotoihin ei reagoitu salamannopeasti.

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  • Mistäs siten johtuu.seksiklubi ym,,ilmoitukset
    ulkomaisissa alan"lehdissä".Jokainen voi itse
    tarkistaa,tilanteen.Joku vuosi suomalainen"alalehti"kertoili paikat ja hinnat,
    siellä.Tosiasiahan on että,ennen LIBANONIN SOTAA
    mm libanon ,oli lähiidän HUORAKEIDAS.

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  • xxx kirjoitti:

    Mistäs siten johtuu.seksiklubi ym,,ilmoitukset
    ulkomaisissa alan"lehdissä".Jokainen voi itse
    tarkistaa,tilanteen.Joku vuosi suomalainen"alalehti"kertoili paikat ja hinnat,
    siellä.Tosiasiahan on että,ennen LIBANONIN SOTAA
    mm libanon ,oli lähiidän HUORAKEIDAS.

    on muslimimaa. hieman eri asia kuin juutalaismaa.

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tää on taas yksi bellan ystävien "totuuksista" :)

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  • Terv. Ei femu, ei lesbo, vaan tavis heteronainen, joka kyllä uskoo Amnestya.

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  • tekstin? kirjoitti:

    Terv. Ei femu, ei lesbo, vaan tavis heteronainen, joka kyllä uskoo Amnestya.

    Titenkin Malarek, joka on ukrainalaista syntyperää, yritää todistaa, että eivät ne miljoona naista, jotka Ukrainasta ovat lähteneet seksityöhön ole lähteneet vapaasta tahdostaan, vaan kaikki on ovelasti huijattu kierojen ulkomaalaisten toimesta.

    Israel on saanut lisäksi hyvän luokittelun USA:n ihmiskauppaa ja sen rajoittamista koskevassa maakohtaisissa arvioinneissa.

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  • tekstin? kirjoitti:

    Terv. Ei femu, ei lesbo, vaan tavis heteronainen, joka kyllä uskoo Amnestya.

    siinä oli muutama epäilyttävä seikka, jotka ovat ristiriitaisia yleisesti tunnettujen asioiden kanssa.

    1) Päivämäärä muotoa 18/5/2000 eikä 5/18/2000 kuten anglosaksisissa maissa.

    2)Lähde uupuu, yritin googlettaa eikä löytynyt alkuperää mistään

    3) Tarinan mukaan naiset HOUKUTELLAAN (=lure) Israeliin. Aiemmissa teksteissä puhuttiin jostain kamelikaravaaneista ja salakuljetuksesta. Houkutteluun liittyvä tuleminen vapaaehtoista.

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  • tekstin ja kirjoitti:

    siinä oli muutama epäilyttävä seikka, jotka ovat ristiriitaisia yleisesti tunnettujen asioiden kanssa.

    1) Päivämäärä muotoa 18/5/2000 eikä 5/18/2000 kuten anglosaksisissa maissa.

    2)Lähde uupuu, yritin googlettaa eikä löytynyt alkuperää mistään

    3) Tarinan mukaan naiset HOUKUTELLAAN (=lure) Israeliin. Aiemmissa teksteissä puhuttiin jostain kamelikaravaaneista ja salakuljetuksesta. Houkutteluun liittyvä tuleminen vapaaehtoista.

    The Jerusalem Reportin sivuilta Ina Friedmanin artikkelia ei enää löydy, mutta googletuksella löytää mirroreita pilvin pimein.

    Tässä yksi:

    "Victoria's, and Israel's, Ugly Secret
    By Ina Friedman, The Jerusalem Report

    Of the thousands of women brought to Israel each year to work as prostitutes, many are enslaved, beaten and raped by their pimps. Now, one of them is fighting back...

    If you were to pass her on the street, there's nothing particular about Victoria that would catch your eye. She could be your daughter, your sister, or your wife. In fact, before her ordeal began, she was a law student in the small Republic of Moldova, and she still has hopes of resuming her studies there. It is only when she begins to speak - barely above a whisper, in grammatically tortured Hebrew picked up "on the job" - that you sense, even become infected by, the fear in her voice, the sadness in her eyes, the exhaustion broadcast by her very posture. And only when you hear her story do you understand that this intelligent, un-assuming 21-year-old - one of the millions of people around the world who have been trafficked as prostitutes this year (see box) - is a heroine, not of some abstract international struggle for human rights but of a very private struggle to rise above the status of victim and take charge of her life again.

    Ironically, it was a similar impetus that led Victoria (who asks that her last name not be published) into the nightmare she has been living for the past 16 months. In mid-1999, when she ran out of funds to continue her studies and found that her family would not help her, she was lured by the offer of a job in Israel as a masseuse. The promised monthly salary was $1,000 (astronomical compared to the $30 a month she was earning in Moldova), and she was assured that she could return there whenever she chose.

    Victoria's suspicion that something was awry arose at the last moment, when the "job recruiter" equipped her with a false passport to travel via Romania. But it was only after she arrived in Israel, in August 1999, that she learned the truth about her new "job" from the man who met her at the airport, took the passport from her, and drove her to a town in the Negev. And the truth was harrowing: The "recruiter," she was told, had sold her into prostitution and debt bondage - meaning that she would have to work off her purchase price ($6,500) before she could be released or even start earning a wage. She would also be required to have sex with her "owner" and his friends for free. The best she could expect for herself was tips from satisfied clients, which she soon discovered averaged $4 to $8 per john.

    "We were locked in an apartment or under guard every time we moved from place to place," Victoria explains when asked why she didn't flee. "And even if I could get away, I had no passport, I had no money for a ticket to go back." Because she had entered Israel illegally, Victoria feared the law. She also had reason to suspect that local policemen were in cahoots with her "owners," because they were among the clients being "serviced" in one of the places in which she worked. ("They showed up in uniform," she relates, "with a squad car parked outside waiting for them.") But most of all she feared reprisal by her pimps. "They threatened that if I ran away, their people would track me down in Moldova and make sure I was punished."

    AND SO, OVER THE COURSE OF 11 months, Victoria worked in various brothels, apartments and hotels in Beersheba and Tel Aviv from 10 a.m. to 11 p.m., seven days a week, "servicing" between 10 and 20 clients a day. Five times she was sold by one pimp to another, each new "owner" requiring her to work off her purchase price. Along the way, she was raped and sodomized by three of her "owners" and one's son, as well. When a brothel in which she was working was raided and she was taken to the police station, she produced the forged Israeli identity card given to her by her "owner" and claimed - as she had been instructed - that she had been in the country for three years. Seeing the identity card, the police asked no further questions, and Victoria was released back into slavery.

    It was only on July 27, 2000, the second time she was arrested in a raid, that the police bothered to interrogate Victoria. "I showed them the forged identity card again, but this time they asked me detailed questions about my family - the family I supposedly had, according to the forged card - and I couldn't answer them. So although I was frightened, I told them the truth," she recalls.

    Thus ended one ordeal and began another. As an illegal alien, Victoria was held for about a month in a local lock-up and then another two in the Neveh Tirzah Women's Prison in Ramlah, awaiting deportation, before she was discovered by the Hotline for Foreign Workers, a Tel Aviv NGO that focuses on the plight of illegal foreign workers. At first all she wanted was the Hotline's help in obtaining a proper travel document so that she could leave the country. But at some point Victoria also remembered that wronged people have a right to be angry.

    "After more than a year of absolute hell, I'm going to be going back without a penny to show for everything that's happened!" she grumbled to Sigal Rozen, the director of the Hotline. So Rozen promptly suggested an idea she had been promoting to women in a similar situation for two years - without any takers.

    "Why not get your deportation postponed - with the Hotline's help - so that you can stay and fight for your due?" Rozen proposed to Victoria. "Not only justice for those who have victimized you but just compensation for your labors."

    So were born the three court cases currently being waged in Victoria's name or with her help. The first is a criminal case against three of her six "owners" and the errant son. The charges against them, it turns out, do not include trafficking in women, as Victoria was last "sold" a month before the amendment to the Penal Code made trafficking in human beings a crime in Israel. They do, however, include crimes equally as evil: rape and sodomy, in aggravated circumstances, among others.

    The second is a civil case filed in the Beersheba District Labor Court in which Victoria, represented by the Hotline's energetic legal adviser, Nomi Levenkron, is suing all six of her "owners" for a combined total of almost $200,000 in back wages, interest, and compensation for the pain, suffering, and anguish she endured while enslaved by them.

    The third is a petition to the Supreme Court for an injunction ordering the minister of internal security, the interior minister, and the Israel Police to pay for Victoria's upkeep ($1,500 a month, though there are legal precedents for demanding twice that amount) until she can testify in the criminal case.

    Since being released from the Neveh Tirzah Prison early last November, Victoria has been living, in hiding from her former enslavers and with no police protection, off the kindness of strangers. She is not getting the medical attention she wants. She is not receiving the psychological counseling she needs. "There are times when I'd just like to go window shopping in a mall to cheer up a bit," she says. "But that would only remind me how utterly destitute I am."

    "The terms of her release from detention prohibit Victoria from working during the remainder of her stay in Israel," Levenkron explains. "So who's taking care of her? Well, if having our volunteers stand up at the end of a law class, tell Victoria's story, and pass around the hat is 'seeing to her needs,' then yes, I suppose you can say we're taking care of her."

    VICTORIA'S CIVIL SUIT AND Supreme Court appeal for maintenance are unprecedented in Israel. But many aspects of her plight are so common to the thousands of trafficked women engaged in prostitution in Israel that one must wonder why the phenomenon has been allowed to continue for so long.

    Indeed, Chief Superintendent Avi Davidovich, head of the Investigations Division in the national headquarters of the Israel Police and head of a new interministerial committee on trafficking in women, notes that the problem has been growing since the beginning of the 1990s.

    "Four factors have fostered it," Davidovich explains: "The rapid growth of Israel's population and thus the number of men who seek sexual services; the growth in the number of foreign workers, mostly single men, who have become major consumers of such services; the opening of borders and freer movement worldwide, especially migration from the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS); and an erosion of social norms in Israel."

    "Israelis have simply grown used to the idea that women can be bought," concurs Leah Gruenpeter-Gold, co-director of the Awareness Center in Tel Aviv, which specializes in research on trafficking in women and prostitution. "I wouldn't say sex trafficking has burgeoned here largely because of the foreign workers - show me one who can afford $60 an hour for a prostitute. It's far more because of the changed norms of young Israelis - both married men and single men who don't want to enter into a relationship so they purchase sex."

    The influx of 1 million immigrants from the CIS over the past decade has also made it easier for the crime syndicates operating there - whose tentacles reach deep into Israel - to traffic women with forged documents. "Some prostitutes come in under the forged identities of Jewish women in Russia and the Ukraine," explains Hagay Herzl, an advisor to the internal security minister on foreign-workers issues. "They even receive the rights and benefits accorded to immigrants by the Law of Return."

    Yet even though the problem is a veteran and particularly ugly one, trafficking in women has only hiccupped its way through the discussion of Israel's struggle with a growing population of illegal foreign workers. "It crops up from time to time, the press gives it a blast of coverage - like when the four Russian prostitutes were burned to death in a locked brothel, with bars on the windows, in Tel Aviv last August - and then it goes back to sleep again," says Gruenpeter-Gold.

    One reason for the lack of sustained attention by the government and media is that prostitution, per se, is not illegal in Israel (and neither was trafficking in human beings until last July). What is criminal is "procurement," which the law defines as taking some or all of the profits of a woman so engaged. In short, it is pimps who stand to spend up to five years in prison (seven under aggravated circumstances) for their actions. Yet in the case of trafficked women, it is the prostitutes who have been consistently punished by Israel's law-enforcement agencies - as illegal aliens - by being arrested, detained for weeks, and deported, while the owners of brothels have gotten off scot-free.

    Another reason for the lack of vigor in attacking the problem is that Israeli officials, to this day, seem somewhat ambivalent about just how victimized the trafficked women are.

    "From talks with hundreds of women awaiting deportation in Neveh Tirzah, I can tell you that only an isolated number claim they were deceived about what awaited them here - meaning they had answered an ad for a job as an au pair or a model or something similar," says Herzl. "The overwhelming majority came here knowing what they would be doing and how much they were likely to earn," which is an estimated $700-$1,000 a month. Many of these women, Herzl concedes, failed to anticipate the harsh physical conditions or how hard they would be required to work. "But the great majority of the women who have come here to work in prostitution do get paid for it," he stresses. "Before being deported, quite a few have even told me that they intend to come back, as this is the only way they can improve their economic situation."

    Activists dispute this overview, saying that while they simply don't know what proportion of the women are here against their will, it's a far from isolated phenomenon. Still, testimonies like those cited by Herzl

    probably made it easier to turn a blind eye to the egregious violations of human rights often entailed in the sex trafficking business. And typically, perhaps, it took an outside party to rub Israel's nose in this problem.

    That service was provided last May by Amnesty International, which issued a blistering 23-page report on trafficking in women in Israel that slammed the government for "[failing] to take adequate measures to prevent, investigate, prosecute and punish human rights abuses against trafficked women" from the former Soviet Union. The report included a list of specific recommendations, among them: making slavery and trafficking unlawful; establishing a special unit to deal with the investigation and prosecution of abuses; treating women as victims rather than criminals; opening a hostel for trafficked women (detaining them in prison, pending deportation, only as a last resort); and providing them with legal aid, counseling, and medical services, as well as tools to request asylum when they face danger if returned to their native lands.

    Clearly, official Israel was stung by the reproof. On June 13, 2000, the Knesset established a special commission of inquiry into trafficking in women, headed by Meretz Knesset member Zahava Gal-On. At the end of July, the Penal Code was amended to making trafficking in human beings a crime whose perpetrators are liable to up to 16 years in prison (20 for trafficking in a minor). And most recently, an interministerial committee, composed of representatives of the Justice, Interior, Internal Security, and Labor and Social Affairs ministries, has begun to address many of the issues spotlighted by the Amnesty Report.

    Perhaps most telling of all, officials like Davidovich and Herzl are now clearly speaking of trafficked women as "victims" and of the need to prosecute the traffickers and pimps, rather than the women they victimize.

    Expectations of what this thrust of interest and activity can accomplish, given budgetary constraints, vary. "We're not talking about eradicating [sex trafficking], just containing its spread and reducing its scope," says Davidovich. "And it's clear that the police cannot take on the establishment of hostels or other aspects of a witness-protection program to encourage these women to testify in criminal cases."

    But Herzl is far more upbeat, saying that he intends to raise the idea of a witness-protection program with the incoming minister. He also reports that the police have been directed to embark on "quality, in-depth investigations - not against the women but against the importers, the pimps, the people who run the whole business." And he promises that "in the near future, you'll see the results of these activities. We are determined to deal with the phenomenon head on," he says, "with the aim of reducing it to the point of elimi-nating it."

    MEANWHILE, OUT IN THE field, the hue has yet to turn rosy. The Knesset's commission of inquiry held only two sessions before its six-month mandate expired, and now there are procedural obstacles to automatically renewing it. A judge in Beersheba has been known to assign trafficked women to be held in detention, until their deportation, in the very brothel where they worked - stipulating, of course, that they must not engage in prostitution! And the Awareness Center has learned that the City of Rishon Lezion, south of Tel Aviv, has been issuing business licenses to brothels; the city had not responded by press time to an inquiry on this from The Report.

    Even more dismaying is the fact that the first trial based on the new anti-trafficking clause of the Penal Code ended in mid-February with a whimper: a plea bargain - proposed by the prosecution - in which the offender received a mere two-year sentence. The case would probably not have come to trial at all had it not been for the fact that one of the victim's johns - a kibbutznik - fell in love with her (and vice versa), tried to redeem her from bondage by paying off her "owner," shelled out an advance, and then got stung by the greedy pimp, who proceeded to "sell" her elsewhere. Only then - and after the love-struck kibbutznik had managed to "kidnap" his prospective bride from her captor - was the matter taken to the police.

    "Evidently the State Attorney's Office also has to be educated about the new outlook on trafficking," says Gruenpeter-Gold bitterly, while the Hotline's Levenkron has registered an official protest with the Tel Aviv district attorney over the plea bargain.

    Speaking of education, Gruenpeter-Gold suggests that the Education Ministry also be represented on the interministerial committee dealing with trafficking, and Levenkron would add the Foreign Ministry to its list of members, explaining that an Israeli information campaign in the CIS could go a long way toward attacking the problem at its source.

    All in all, press clippings over the past six months seem to suggest a slightly heightened awareness of the problem, and talks with officials suggest that the state is finally beginning to address it. But the apparent change of attitude is still nowhere near the energetic campaign that the organ-izations grappling with the issue of trafficking would like to see adopted.

    "Neglect, sheer neglect is why we've reached this point," says Levenkron, and Gruenpeter-Gold adds: "I wish I could say that something has seriously changed since the law was amended last July, but I can't."

    "Just two months ago, we had a hard time getting the police interested in even hearing Victoria's testimony," reports the Hotline's Rozen. "They said it would be her word against that of her pimps, and they couldn't build a case on that. It was only after I had testified before the Knesset inquiry commission that the police called back to say they would like to see her. They were shamed into it. And we should all be ashamed that things like this exist in our 'enlightened,' democratic society and we still prefer to turn the other way."

    http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/victoria.html

    Höpötit tälläistä:

    "1) Päivämäärä muotoa 18/5/2000 eikä 5/18/2000 kuten anglosaksisissa maissa. "

    Kerrotko missä tämä oli??

    "2)Lähde uupuu, yritin googlettaa eikä löytynyt alkuperää mistään."

    Opettele käyttämään hakurobotteja. Hakusanat laitetaan siihen pieneen ikkunaan, ja painetaan nappia. Lapsikin osaa.

    Haulla "Victoria's, and Israel's, Ugly Secret
    By Ina Friedman, The Jerusalem Report" löytyi

    http://www.google.fi/search?client=
    firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:fi-FI:official
    _s&hl=fi&q=Victoria's, and Israel's, Ugly Secret&meta
    =&btnG=Google-haku

    Haulla "Of the thousands of women brought to Israel each year to work as prostitutes" löytyi:

    http://www.google.fi/search?hs=wci&hl=fi&client=firefox-a&rls
    =org.mozilla:fi-FI:official_s&q=Of the thousands of women brought to Israel each
    year to work as prostitutes&btnG=Hae&meta=

    "
    3) Tarinan mukaan naiset HOUKUTELLAAN (=lure) Israeliin. Aiemmissa teksteissä puhuttiin jostain kamelikaravaaneista ja salakuljetuksesta. Houkutteluun liittyvä tuleminen vapaaehtoista."

    ???? Mitä yrität selittää??

    Kun et ehkä opi googlettamaan, mene suoraan Amnestyn sivulle:

    http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engMDE150172000

    Auf Wiedersehen!

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Uskovalta juutalaismieheltä on masturbointi kielletty. Siemenen hukkaaminen on suuri synti. Tämän takia ortodoksijuuttilaiselle miehelle syntyy hirvittäviä paineita, jos vaimo ei suostu seksiin.

Tämän takia Israelissa miljoona miestä ostaa viikoittain seksiä.

Suomessa asia on ratkaistu toisin. Miljoona suomalaista kuuluu lahkoihin, jotka noudattavat samaa ankaraa onanoinnin kieltoa, kuin juutalaiset. Suomessa miehen ei kuitenkaan tarvitse mennä prostituoidun luokse, koska näissä uskonnollisissa yhteisöissä on asia ratkaistu siten, että nainen ei saa kieltäytyä seksistä. Koko uskonnollinen yhteisö painostaa naista alistumaan miehen haluille, siemenen hukkaamisen kielto on laajennettu myös naiseen. Jos nainen kieltäytyy yhdynnästä, hän tekee syntiä.

Todellinen seksiorjuus Suomessa tapahtuu uskonnollisissa lahkoissa. Naiset ovat niissä pakotettu suostumaan yhdyntään siinäkin tapauksessa, että ilman ehkäisyä harjoitettu seksi johtaa raskauteen, jonka nainen tietää koituvansa omaksi kuolemakseen lääkärin varoitusten mukaan.

Päivi Istala on Suomen Yleisradion feminismitoimittaja. Tähän seksiorjuuteen Päivi Istala ei ohjelmissaan ole koskaan puuttunut.

Seksin ostokielto Suomessa äänestetään eduskunnassa uskonnollisten ääriainesten äänillä voimaan. Moni lestadiolainen poliisi on jo hakenut prostituutioyksikköön.

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  • Pahalta näyttää tämä touhu:

    Tyttöjä pidetään vangittuina, pakotetaan seksiin, ja ihmisiä myydään a´ 5000 USD.

    Tähän bordellien laillistaminen johtaa.

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Zwi Migdal kirjoitti:

http://pappa.20m.com/Ina_Friedman_Victoria.htm

Linkistä luettua:
"Tuhansia naisia on kuljetettu Israeliin joka vuosi prostituoiduiksi. Monet heistä vastoin tahtoaan, välittäjien raiskaamina ja pahoinpiteleminä."

"Totuus uudesta työstä oli riipaiseva: Hänelle kerrottiin että "työnvälittäjä" oli myynyt hänet bordelliin, ja Victorian täytyi hankkia "työllään" oma ostohintansa 6.500 USD ennenkuin hän voisi päästä vapaaksi tai pitää tulonsa itsellään. Häneltä vaadittiin myös omistajan ja tämän ystävien palvelemista seksillä. Tyytyväisten asiakkaiden maksamat tipit hän saisi pitää."

""Meitä pidettiin lukkojen takana tai vartioituina koko ajan, ja meitä kuljetettiin paikasta toiseen", kertoo Victoria kun kysyn miksi hän ei paennut. "Eikä minulla olisi ollut rahaa eikä passia kotimatkaan."

Koska hän oli tullut Israeliin laittomasti, hän pelkäsi viranomaisia. Hänellä oli myös syitä epäillä, että paikallinen poliisi oli yhteydessä hänen "omistajiinsa". Poliiseja oli ollut asiakkaiden joukossa eräässä niistä paikoista joissa hän "palveli". "Heillä oli uniformut ja partioautot odottivat heitä ulkopuolella."
Eniten Victoria pelkäsi kuitenkin vangitsijoitaan. "He uhkailivat, että jos karkaan, he etsivät minut Moldovasta ja voin olla varma että he kostavat."

11 kuukauden aikana Victoria työskenteli useissa bordelleissa, asuinhuoneistoissa ja hotelleissa Beershebassa ja Tel Avivissa kello kymmenestä aamulla yhteentoista illalla, seitsemän päivää viikossa, palvellen 10-20 asiakasta päivässä. Viisi kertaa hänet myytiin parittajalta toiselle, ja jokainen näistä pakotti hänet hankkimaan ostohintaansa takaisin."

http://pappa.20m.com/valimerensuuribordelli.htm

"Itä-Euroopasta ihmiskaupatut naiset riisutaan ja myydään alastomina Tel Avivin orjamarkkinoilla, hintaan 500-1000 USD. Bordellien omistajat toimivat yhteistyössä poliisin kanssa naisten salakuljettamisessa maahan ja väärien papereiden järjestämisessä. Pahoinpitelyt ja seksuaalinen väkivalta kuuluvat tyttöjen tavanomaiseen kohteluun.

Women trafficked from Eastern Europe, were stripped and sold naked as slaves to Tel Aviv traders for US$500-1,000. Smuggling, fraudulent documents, collaboration between police and brothel owners are involved. There are routine brutal beatings and sexual abuse. ( New York Times 11.01.-98 )"

Jos bordellien laillistajat saavat tahtonsa lävitse, tämä juutalainen meno tulee Suomeenkin.

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