Ayatollah Khomeini's Teachings on sex with infants and animals
Islamic Teachings on sex with infants:
"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister."
The complete Persian text of this saying can be found in "Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom"
Islamic Teachings on sex with animals:
"The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold."
Editor's notes: I wonder if it is OK to sodomize a dead animal? What happens if the buyer brings the poor animal back into the city?
"If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it."
Editor's note: The poor animal first is sodomized and then killed and burned. What an Islamic justice towards animals? Where are the animal
rights group?
"It is forbidden to consume the excrement of animals or their nasal secretions. But if such are mixed in minute proportions into other foods their consumption is not forbidden."
"If a man (God protect him from it!) fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary."
Islamic Teachings on sex with infants:
"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister."
The complete Persian text of this saying can be found in "Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom"
Islamic Teachings on sex with animals:
"The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold."
Editor's notes: I wonder if it is OK to sodomize a dead animal? What happens if the buyer brings the poor animal back into the city?
"If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it."
Editor's note: The poor animal first is sodomized and then killed and burned. What an Islamic justice towards animals? Where are the animal
rights group?
"It is forbidden to consume the excrement of animals or their nasal secretions. But if such are mixed in minute proportions into other foods their consumption is not forbidden."
"If a man (God protect him from it!) fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary."
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Vanhimmat
bullshit. nyt sä puhut paska!
Khomeini joka puhuu p-aa?
kannattaa tutkia tarkemmin.
"oikea käsitys"?
Onko Saulin vaalikoneisto palkattu jonkin tahon uskonnolliseen vaalikampanjaan.
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
...ääliö,kö ?!?
Sillä Lontoon-taitajat lienevät kuitenkin vähemmistönä täällä(-kin),kö ?!?
lol
;-)
Suomennosta Ajatollah Khomeinin ajatuksista:
Ajatollah Khomeini
neuvoo kirjassaan Tahrirolvasyleh:
"Miehellä on lupa yhtyä sellaisiin eläimiin kuten lampaisiin, lehmiin ja kameleihin, mutta hänen on surmattava eläin saatuaan tyydytyksen.
Hän ei saa kuitenkaan myydä teurasta omille kyläläisilleen, mutta naapurikyläläisten kanssa kaupat voi tehdä."
Muistakaa Suomen muslimit, että ette myy kyseistä eläintä oman kylän väelle.
En nyt puutu viestin aitouteen... Joskin voisin lisätä että Raamattua lukemalla löytää kyllä ihan vastaavia ohjeita.
Mutta lähinnä hämmästyttää tuo asenne. Heti ollaan tuomitsemassa vierasta kulttuuria ja väittämässä että itse ollaan niin oikeassa, niin oikeassa.
Jyllands-Posten: The background to a provocation
The basic lie in the controversy over the caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published by Danish and European newspapers is the claim that the conflict is between free speech and religious censorship, or between Western enlightenment and Islamic bigotry.
The taz newspaper, which has close links to the German Greens, declared the conflict was about reducing the influence of all religions, including Christianity, “to a tolerable measure.” In Spiegel.online, Henryk M. Broder condemned the halfhearted apology made by the publishers of the Danish daily Jyllands-Posten, which unleashed the caricature controversy, as an “example of how democratic public opinion capitulates to a totalitarian standpoint.”
An examination of the prevailing political conditions in Denmark reveals how bogus such arguments are. One would be hard pressed to find another European country where political changes over the past few years have found such a clear—and repellent—expression.
In a country renowned for its tolerance and openness, the social crisis and the betrayals carried out by the old working class organizations have opened the way for the emergence of political forces which systematically encourage xenophobia and racism. The newspaper Jyllands-Posten has played a prominent role in this process.
Last autumn Jyllands-Posten assigned 40 prominent Danish caricaturists to draw the Prophet Muhammad. Twelve responded and the results were published on September 30. The project was deliberately designed to provoke.
According to the cultural editor of the newspaper, Flemming Rose, it was aimed at “testing the limits of self-censorship in Danish public opinion” when it comes to Islam and Muslims. He added: “In a secular society, Muslims have to live with the fact of being ridiculed, scoffed at and made to look ridiculous.”
When the anticipated reaction by the Muslim community failed to arise, the newspaper continued its campaign, determined to create a full-scale scandal. After a week had gone by without protest, journalists turned on Danish Islamic religious leaders who were well known for their fundamentalist views and demanded: “Why don’t you protest?” Eventually, the latter reacted and alerted their co-thinkers in the Middle East.
At this point the head of the Danish government, Andres Fogh Rasmussen, and the xenophobic Danish People’s Party, which is part of the ruling coalition, swung into action. Fogh Rasmussen demonstratively turned down appeals by concerned Arab ambassadors for talks to clarify the issue. Even after 22 former Danish ambassadors appealed to the prime minister to hold discussions with the representatives of Islamic states, Rasmussen maintained his stance, arguing that “freedom of the press” could not be a topic for diplomatic discussion.
The chairperson of the Danish People’s Party, Pia Kjaersgaard, insulted Danish Muslims who complained about the caricatures, publicly denouncing them as national traitors because they supposedly placed their religious beliefs above free speech.
From the start, the campaign had nothing to do with “free speech” and everything to do with the political agenda of the Fogh Rasmussen government, comprising of a coalition of right-wing neo-liberals and conservatives, together with the Danish People’s Party.
The latter rose to prominence in the 1990s when all of the country’s bourgeois parties—including the then-governing Social Democrats—responded to a mounting social crisis with xenophobic campaigns. The People’s Party declared at the time that Islam was a “cancerous ulcer” and “terrorist movement.” Kjaersgaard, notorious for her racist outbursts, declared that the Islamic world could not be regarded as civilized. “There is only one civilization, and that is ours,” she said.
Fogh Rasmussen, at that time the chairman of the right-wing Venstre party, adopted much of the racist demagogy of the People’s Party. In the election campaign of 2001he demanded, among other things, that “criminal foreigners” be thrown out of the country within 48 hours.
His campaign utilized an election poster featuring pictures of Muslim criminals to suggest that all Muslims were violent. Venstre won the election and, together with the traditional conservative party, formed a minority government, which was supported by the extremist People’s Party.
Danish politics lurched far to the right. The country’s immigration laws were drastically tightened, while spending for development aid was cut back. In the Iraq war, which was opposed by the majority of the Danish population, Fogh Rasmussen lined up behind the Bush administration and sent a contingent of Danish troops to help occupy the country.
The campaign unleashed by Jyllands-Posten is a continuation and intensification of this reactionary trajectory, aimed at bolstering the xenophobic policies of the government and strengthening its support for US imperialism.
The caricatures themselves are patently racist. They suggest that every Muslim is a potential terrorist. Reports and pictures of outraged Muslims protesting the defamation of their prophet are used to reinforce this slander.
Official politics and the media throughout Europe are increasingly preoccupied with such agitation. Muslims are collectively held responsible for acts carried out by terrorist groups, although they bear no responsibility for them. In the German state of Baden-Württemberg, Muslims seeking to stay in the country must answer a catalog of questions probing their religious beliefs.
Television news presenters regularly malign Muslims for being prepared to protest against the defamation of Muhammad, but not against acts carried out by terrorist groups in the name of Islam, suggesting that they secretly support such acts.
A campaign is emerging to depict Islam as an inferior culture that is incompatible with “Western values.” There are clear parallels here to the anti-Semitic caricatures that were spread in the 1930s by fascist newspapers such as the Nazi Stürmer. The depiction of Jews as sub-humans served as the ideological preparation for the Holocaust.
Today the systematic defamation of Muslims is being used to prepare public opinion for new wars against countries such as Iran and Syria—wars which will be even more brutal than the Iraq war, and could well involve the use of nuclear weapons.
It is no coincidence that it was the Jyllands-Posten that took up this initiative. The newspaper is notorious for its declarations of support for the Nazis in the 1930s, and has played a key role in Denmark’s recent shift to the right.
With editorial offices in the rural area of Arhus, Jyllands-Posten remained a relatively insignificant provincial newspaper until the beginning of the 1980s. At that time it began an aggressive policy of expansion. It bought up smaller regional and local newspapers and launched a price war with the two established newspapers in the Danish capital—Berlingske Tidende and Politiken—and rapidly built up its circulation to 170,000, becoming the biggest circulation newspaper in the country.
In the 1990s the decidedly conservative paper increasingly developed into a mouthpiece for openly xenophobic, right-wing forces. Nearly a quarter of the editorial board was dismissed, and the quality of the paper sank as its aggressiveness rose.
Shortly before the publication of the Muhammad cartoons, Jyllands-Posten ran a headline reading, “Islam is the Most Belligerent.” The newspaper ran an exposé about an alleged Muslim death-list of Jewish names—until it emerged that the whole thing was a fabrication.
One year ago the editor-in-chief resigned because the newspaper carried a report, in the midst of an election campaign, alleging the systematic abuse of welfare rights by asylum-seekers. The sensational charges were published against his will.
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WSWS
Että kehtaatkin valehdella ja keksiä mitä sattuu.
Raamatussa ei varmasti kehoteta ihmistä sekaantumaan eläimiin!
Päinvastoin semmoinen kielletään jyrkästi,niinkuin kaikki muukin saasta ja riettaus.
Raamatussa kielletään homous,ja toisen vaimon himoitseminen, sekä sukurutsa.
Sietäisi sinuakin antaa oikein karttakepillä korville,että tulet keksimään omia luulojasi Raamatusta, ja puolustelet siinä vielä muslimien eläimellisyyttä.
Katsokaa maailmaa tänään ja verratkaa näihin säädöksiin:
2. Moos. 22:19
Jokainen, joka sekaantuu eläimeen, rangaistakoon kuolemalla.
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=2. Moos. 22:19&rnd=1140812604266
3. Moos. 18:23
Älä sekaannu mihinkään eläimeen, ettet siten itseäsi saastuttaisi. Älköönkä nainen tarjoutuko eläimelle pariutuaksensa sen kanssa; se on iljettävyys.
ja kokonaisuudessaan
3. Mooseksen kirja 18
1 Ja Herra puhui Moosekselle sanoen:
2 "Puhu israelilaisille ja sano heille: Minä olen Herra, teidän Jumalanne.
3 Älkää tehkö, niinkuin tehdään Egyptin maassa, jossa te asuitte, älkääkä tehkö, niinkuin tehdään Kanaanin maassa, johon minä teidät vien; älkää vaeltako heidän tapojensa mukaan.
4 Vaan seuratkaa minun säädöksiäni ja noudattakaa minun käskyjäni vaeltaaksenne niiden mukaan. Minä olen Herra, teidän Jumalanne.
5 Noudattakaa minun käskyjäni ja säädöksiäni, sillä se ihminen, joka ne pitää, on niistä elävä. Minä olen Herra.
6 Älköön kukaan teistä ryhtykö veriheimolaiseensa paljastaakseen hänen häpyänsä. Minä olen Herra.
7 Isäsi häpyä ja äitisi häpyä älä paljasta. Hän on sinun äitisi, älä hänen häpyänsä paljasta.
8 Älä paljasta äitipuolesi häpyä, se on sinun isäsi häpy.
9 Älä paljasta sisaresi häpyä, olipa hän isäsi tytär tai äitisi tytär, kotona tai ulkona syntynyt; älä paljasta heidän häpyänsä.
10 Älä paljasta poikasi tyttären tai tyttäresi tyttären häpyä, sillä se on sinun oma häpysi.
11 Älä paljasta äitipuolesi tyttären häpyä, tyttären, joka on sinun isällesi syntynyt; hän on sinun sisaresi.
12 Älä paljasta isäsi sisaren häpyä; hän on sinun isäsi veriheimolainen.
13 Älä paljasta äitisi sisaren häpyä, sillä hän on sinun äitisi veriheimolainen.
14 Älä paljasta setäsi häpyä, älä ryhdy hänen vaimoonsa; hän on sinun tätisi.
15 Älä paljasta miniäsi häpyä; hän on sinun poikasi vaimo, älä paljasta hänen häpyänsä.
16 Älä paljasta veljesi vaimon häpyä; se on sinun veljesi häpy.
17 Älä paljasta vaimon ja hänen tyttärensä häpyä, äläkä ota vaimoksi hänen poikansa tytärtä tai tyttärensä tytärtä paljastaaksesi hänen häpyänsä, sillä he ovat veriheimolaisia; se on sukurutsausta.
18 Älä ota vaimosi eläessä hänen sisartansa vaimoksesi ja paljasta hänen häpyänsä, sillä se tuo riidan.
19 Älä ryhdy vaimoon paljastaaksesi hänen häpyänsä, kun hän on saastainen kuukautisaikanansa.
20 Älä makaa lähimmäisesi vaimon kanssa, ettet siten itseäsi saastuttaisi.
21 Älä anna lapsiasi poltettaviksi uhrina Molokille, ettet häpäisisi Jumalasi nimeä. Minä olen Herra.
22 Älä makaa miehenpuolen kanssa, niinkuin naisen kanssa maataan; se on kauhistus.
23 Älä sekaannu mihinkään eläimeen, ettet siten itseäsi saastuttaisi. Älköönkä nainen tarjoutuko eläimelle pariutuaksensa sen kanssa; se on iljettävyys.
24 Älkää saastuttako itseänne millään näistä, sillä näillä kaikilla ovat itsensä saastuttaneet ne kansat, jotka minä karkoitan teidän tieltänne.
25 Ja maa tuli saastaiseksi, ja minä kostin sille sen pahat teot, niin että maa oksensi ulos asujamensa.
26 Sentähden noudattakaa minun käskyjäni ja säädöksiäni älkääkä mitään näistä kauhistuksista tehkö, älköön maassa syntynyt älköönkä muukalainen, joka asuu teidän keskellänne-
27 sillä kaikkia näitä kauhistuksia ovat tehneet tämän maan asukkaat, jotka olivat ennen teitä, niin että maa tuli saastaiseksi-
28 ettei maa teitäkin oksentaisi, jos te sen saastutatte, niinkuin se on oksentanut ulos sen kansan, joka oli ennen teitä.
29 Sillä jokainen, joka tekee minkä tahansa näistä kauhistuksista, hävitettäköön kansastansa, kaikki, jotka semmoista tekevät.
30 Sentähden noudattakaa minun määräyksiäni, ettette seuraisi niitä kauhistavia tapoja, joita on seurattu ennen teitä, ettekä saastuttaisi itseänne niillä. Minä olen Herra, teidän Jumalanne."
passaako mennä edes saunaan perheen kanssa?mä kyllä vähän epäilen tuon viisaan miehen sanoja ON SE NIIN PARANOIJJAA TKSTIÄ