9/11 synnytti

osannut lukea kirjoitusta?!

ihmisiä on rangaistu puhelimen käytöstä koneessa jos ne eivät toimi. Ei kukaan pidä kännykkää kauaa auki, jos ei ole yhteyttä.

Sen verran voisin kommentoida tuota omaa kokeiluani, että sehän siis koski nimenomaan ns. digitaalista signaalia (GSM tms), toisin kuin mikä jenkeissä oli kyseiseen aikaan selvästi suositumpi, analoginen (vast. NMT).

Itselläni ei muutaman suurkaupungin alueella toiminut digitaalinen puhelin lainkaan vuonna 2000. Vielä vuonna 2005 pienempien kaupunkien alueella suomalaiset puhelimet eivät toimineet.

Voisi hyvin olettaa, että analogiset kännykät toimivat lentokoneissa digitaalisia selvästi paremmin.

Testi pitäisi siis suorittaa vuoden 2001 yleisimmillä jenkkipuhelimilla ja siis analogisella signaalilla.

artikkeli on oleellisesti luotettavamman tuntuinen kuvaus tilanteesta mikä vallitsi jenkeissä kyseessä olevana aikana.

Kas kun et edes yrittänyt sitä kommentoida.

mainittu kirjoitti:

artikkeli on oleellisesti luotettavamman tuntuinen kuvaus tilanteesta mikä vallitsi jenkeissä kyseessä olevana aikana.

Kas kun et edes yrittänyt sitä kommentoida.

... ei kyllä yhdessäkään kohtaa sanota, että kännyt toimivat lentokoneissa hyvin USA:ssa.

Jos tuollaisen tekstin varaan laskee todistelunsa siitä, että kännyillä saattoi soittaa lentokoneista USA:ssa 2001 ja vieläpä matkalentokorkeudelta ja harvaan asuttujen seutujen yllä, kuten osa väitetyistä *matkapuheluista* tehtiin, todistelu on kyllä aika heikolla pohjalla.

911 Bloggerin (http://www.911blogger.com) yhdessä keskustelussa nostettiin esiin seuraavia kysymyksiä matkapuheluiden toimivuudesta USA:ssa vuonna 2001:
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A few more doubts about Mark Bingham’s famous cell phone call on 9/11/01 (and other people’s calls that day also): Was there cell phone coverage throughout rural Pennsylvania back then? If any, wouldn’t it have been extremely erratic at best, with miles & miles of dead zones?
Since Bingham was based in California, would his phone service even work in the Northeast? (I believe most all phone plans were regional back then.) If possible, did it need to do some very unreliable “roaming” to work at all?
Weren’t East Coast cell networks severely overloaded by the time Bingham supposedly made his call?

Just one more about Bingham:
If he was at 33,000 feet, that's about 6 miles. I don't believe cell phones could reach anywhere near that distance. And we must include penetrating the plane's body, electrical interference, analog signals back then, and so on.

Looks like it's case closed to me.
http://www.physics911.net/projectachilles.htm
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Mark Bingham on se kaveri, jonka väitettiin soittaneen äidilleen sanoen "Mom? This is Mark Bingham."

Olen kopsannut jostain muistiooni alla olevan aiheeseen liittyvän viestin. En pysty ottamaan näihin sen kummemmin kantaa. Toivottavasti jollakulla on aikaa tutkia. Mm. tuo nettisivun pystytys heti seuraavana päivänä kuulostaa tosiaan vähän oudolta. Linkit eivät ole välittyneet oikein kopioinnissa, mutta annoin niiden jäädä tekstiin antamaan suuntimia sivustoihin, joilta voi hakea lisää materiaalia.
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The Discovery Channel documentary, 'The Flight That Fought Back', produced by London-based Brook Lapping Productions,is based on research evidence including the 9/11 Commission Report and voice recordings left by passengers and crew members of United flight 93, including the famous "Let's roll" call to action, from passenger Todd Beamer. There is only one problem: Todd Beamer does not exist.

Do a Social Security Death Index search for Todd
Beamer at :

http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

You get one record with the date of birth as SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH, 1968 and date of death as 6/10/97.

Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175 & 93, only 22%, 22%, 28%, 13% respectively are in the Social Security Death Index.

Todd Beamer's marriage:
I prepared for our wedding on May 14,1994. I had
always wanted to move back East, ... Our wedding took place at the First Baptist Church
in Peekskill, New York pg 97 "Let's Roll" by Lisa Beamer

Do a marriage license search at:

http://www.genlookups.com/ny_marriages/

There are no marriage license records for Todd Beamer and Lisa Brosious!

Look at the date this website was setup- 9/12/01!!! and he is not in the SSDI nor has any "family" member applied to the September 11th Compensation Fund of 2001

Domain ID:D77223487-LROR

Domain Name:MARKBINGHAM.ORG

Created On:12-Sep-2001 17:06:44 UTC

http://markbingham.org/
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Of the 266 people that we were told died on these
jets, only 11 relatives applied for compensation!

Flight 11: of the 92 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 20 are listed in the SSDI (22%)

Of these 92 people, only three are on the 9-11
Compensation Fund list:

Judy Larocque
Laurie Neira
Candace Lee Williams

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Flight 77: of the 64 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 14 are listed in the SSDI (22%)

Of these 64 people, only five on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:

William Caswell
Eddie Dillard
Ian Gray
John Sammartino
Leonard Taylor

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Flight 175: of the 65 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 18 are listed in the SSDI (28%)

Of these 65 people, only three are on the 9-11
Compensation Fund list:

Michael C. Tarrou
Gloria Debarrera
Timothy Ward

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Flight 93: of the 45 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 6 are listed in the SSDI (13%)

Of these 45 people, none are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:

No one

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Maybe this is why:

Plane Lands In Cleveland; Bomb Feared Aboard
Reported by: 9News Staff
Web produced by: Liz Foreman
9/11/01 11:43:57 AM

"A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline [didn't] say how many people were aboard the flight. United said it was also "deeply concerned" about another flight, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was bound from Boston to Los Angeles.

On behalf of the airline CEO James Goodwin said: "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved.

"United is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights," he said." -WCPO-TV (09/11/01)

http://web.archive.org/web/20021...al/story14.html

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/m...php?storyid=323
http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/vic...imcompensation/
http://911digitalarchive.org/obj...g/objects/ 3.pdf
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001...11.victims.html
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001...77.victims.html
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001...93.victims.html
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001...75.victims.html


The 911 phone calls:

The following shows the passengers aboard the four flights who we were told made telephone calls on 9/11/01. Only one death was reported to the Social Security Death Index. And none of the caller’s families applied to the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund of 2001. Maybe the "callers" should not have wasted airtime on their "family".

Caller/Death Reported to SSDI /Application to September 11th Victim Compensation Fund of 2001


Flight 11
Betty Ong NO NO

Madeline Sweeney NO NO

Flight 77
Barbara Olson NO NO

Flight 175
Peter Burton Hanson NO NO

Flight 93
Todd Beamer NO NO

Thomas E. Burnett Jr. NO NO

Mark Bingham NO NO

Jeremy Glick NO NO

Linda Gronlund NO NO

Joseph F DeLuca* YES NO

Marion Britton NO NO

Sandy Bradshaw NO NO

Edward Felt NO NO

Honor Wainio NO NO

CeeCee Lyles NO NO

Sandra Bradshaw NO NO


* Linda Gronlund was flying to San Francisco aboard United Flight 93 with her boyfriend, Joseph F DeLuca. Linda was a sailor, a scuba diver, A BROWN BELT IN KARATE, a lawyer, a car mechanic, a gardener, a photographer, a gourmet cook, a guitarist, an emergency medical technician and a volunteer with autistic children. Why wasn't Wonder Woman using her skills to help stop those mean nasty Arabs?

"Joseph Deluca called his dad. His girlfriend, Linda Gronlund, called her sister, telling her THE
COMBINATION TO HER SAFE DEPOSIT BOX and how much she loved her." page 206 of "Let's Roll: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Courage" by Lisa Beamer

Another book quotes Linda's call to her sister as, "I want to let you know how much I love you; please tell Mom and Dad", Linda said. "I don't know if I'll be able to tell you again IN PERSON how much I love you. I hope I will. I'M REALLY GOING TO MISS YOU." page 161 of "Among the Heroes: United Flight 93 and the Passengers and Crew Who Fought Back" by Jere Longman.

Does this sound like a woman who is about to die? Or does this sound like a lawyer who has to go away for a long time and take a new identity?