Yksi sotilas ampui 5000 jenkkiä?

tuli tv:stä

enää.
Luulen että Talvisodassa oli useampi Suomalainen kk ampuja joka pääsi myös koviin lukuihin.
Yksi edesmennyt pappa puheli aseen edessä olleen yhden hyökkäyksen jälkeen jo 380 vainajaa.
"Ison aukean takaa tulivat ja meinasivat kävellä yli". Lunta oli lähes vyötäisille.
Eipä nämäkään kaverit itseään mainostaneet, itse kestivät aaveensa.

Hein Severloh

Severloh tosiaan oli miehen nimi, mutta 5000 on aika rajusti yläkanttiin.

Satoja jenkkejä "Beast of the Omaha Beach" kuitenkin suolasi.

Tuossahan siitä on juttua kovastikin:

http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/servlets/search?start=0&q=severloh


Tarkennusta tappiolukuihin
Kirjoittanut: Vähän jyvällä asiasta 19.8.2005 klo 14.41

http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=114&conference=4000000000000028&posting=22000000010092445&view_mode=flat


Normandian maihinnousussa liitoutuneilla tappiot 1. päivänä kaatuneina oli jotain 5000-10000 luokkaa yhteensä kaikilla maihinnousukohdilla. Jenkkityperykset menettivät OmahaBeach:lla muutaman sinnikkään saksalaisen kk-ampujan takia yli 2000 kaatunutta. Taisi olla se Severloh josta oli dokumenttiohjelma telkkarissakin taannoion.

http://www.jippii.fi/jsp/forum/thread.jsp?b=armeija&t=8 664&p=11


Lisää infoa Google Severloh!

http://www.historynet.com/wwii/bldesperatehoursomahabea ch/index1.html

tuolla on 3 sivun juttu tapahtumista.


http://www.spiegel.de/sptv/special/0,1518,302244,00.htm l

Siinä kuvan kanssa tämä "lahtarien eliittiä" oleva vanha mies.

http://www.916gr.co.uk/severloh.shtml

Unit History - 352 Veterans

Gefreiter Hein Severloh
Severloh was a farmer’s son from Metzingen near Celle. Severloh was present at Dieppe during the landings in 1942 but was not called into action. Later he served in Russia with Art. Rgt. 321 until the division was sent to Normandy to form the 352 ID in the autumn of 1943. Veteran's Photographs
Leutnant Hans Heinze
Gefreiter Hein Severloh
Sanitats-Obergefreiter Heinrich Wismer
Severloh became the runner for Oberleunant Freking with AR 352 who had an OP at WN62 near Colleville. Severloh spent much of his time organising butter and eggs from the local farmers who were friendly towards him because of his youth (19 years old) and farming background. On the morning of 6th June 1944, Severloh was looking out from his post at WN62 and was the first man to spot the invasion fleet.

Severloh operated an MG42 and in his own words; ‘Nobody can imagine the slaughter’. Severloh fired 12,000 rounds through his MG42 until it was damaged by shrapnel; he then continued firing with a K98k rifle until he was wounded. On June 7th, Severloh fell into captivity and was sent to Boston USA as a POW until May 1946. In December 1946 Severloh was sent with 500 other POW’s to Bedfordshire in England to build roads. Severloh was released in May 1947 after an appeal from his elderly father who was unable to cope alone with the family farm.


http://wuff.me.uk/

HE WOULD be a war hero if he were British or American. Yet Hein Severloh is nicknamed the Beast of Omaha Beach for the carnage he inflicted on D-Day. He is reputed to be the German soldier who killed and wounded the most enemy troops in a single day during the whole of the Second World War.
Four thousand, one hundred and eighty-four Americans were shot in front of his bunker WN 62, above Omaha Beach on 6 June 1944. Hein Severioh was responsible for at least half of those deaths. He fired his machine gun at advancing GIs, almost without a break, for nine hours. The heat from the gun barrels he had to keep changing set the grass on fire around his bunker as American bodies bobbed and floated towards him on a flood tide stained pink with their blood.

Today his victims lie buried in the vast American cemetery above Omaha Beach that President George Bush will visit this weekend. They account for nearly a quarter of the 9,368 white stone crosses and Stars of David that cover the graveyard.

Hein Severloh was a raw 20 year old Wehrmacht private on D-Day, and the invasion was his first real taste of action. He is now a frail and bespectacled pensioner of 81, who lives in a timbered farmhouse in the village of Metzingen near Hamburg. He speaks with a lisp, the result of a stroke he suffered years ago. Last week, he nervously slapped his thigh in an attempt to fight back his tears as his mind went back to that day of slaughter. He wept as he said: "What should I have done? I thought I would never get out of there alive. I thought I am fighting for my life; it's them or me, that's what I thought."

This weekend, Chancellor Gerhard Schroder will become the first post-war German leader to attend D-Day anniversary celebrations. Opinion polls show more than 70 per cent of Germans are glad he is going. The German Chancellor said the decision to invite him to the D-Day celebrations "shows that the postwar period is over and done for good". On D-Day, he was two months old.

But that day is all too real for Hein Severloh. He is plagued by a recurring nightmare, not from when he was mowing down Americans 600 yards away on Omaha Beach. "At that distance, the enemy look like ants," he said. It happened when he reached for his rifle during a lull in the fighting. A young GI who had survived the onslaught in the sea was running up the beach. Mr Severloh took aim and fired. The round smashed into the GI's forehead and sent his helmet spinning. The soldier slumped dead on the sand. Mr Severloh still remembers the man's contorted expression. "It was only then I realised I had been killing people all the time," he said, "I still dream of that soldier now. I feel sick when I think about it."

For Hein Severloh, the war began and ended that day. His bunker was knocked out by a grenade which killed his commanding officer. He was taken prisoner by the Americans and sent to the United States five days later. He spent three years as a prisoner-of-war. By 1959, his story had become well known in the United States. The Americans called him the Beast of Omaha Beach. Mr Severloh was too ashamed to tell his four children about his experiences, yet he was desperate to meet Americans who had survived. Eventually, he found David Silva, a GI wounded three times on Omaha Beach. When the men met in Germany in the 1960s they hugged each other for five minutes. "He never asked me to forgive him, but I have done so all the same," Mr Silva says today. "It is important for him

'Beast of Omaha' weeps as he recalls slaughter of thousands on beach

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/international.cfm? id=643752004

MURDO MACLEOD

FOR Hein Severloh the ‘Longest Day’ meant nine hours constantly machine-gunning American soldiers as they attempted to land on Omaha Beach.

One image still brings tears to his eyes. A young American had run from his landing craft and sought cover behind a concrete block. Severloh, then a young lance-corporal in the German army in Normandy, aimed his rifle at the GI. He fired and hit the enemy square in the forehead. The American’s helmet flew away and rolled into the sea, his chin sank to his chest and he collapsed dead on the beach.

Tormented by the memory, Severloh now weeps at the thought of the unknown soldier’s death.

Severloh was safe in an almost impregnable concrete bunker overlooking the beach. He had an unimpeded view of the oncoming Allied forces. He was the last German soldier firing, and may have accounted for about 3,000 American casualties, almost three-quarters of all the US losses at Omaha. The Americans came to know him as the Beast of Omaha.

He had been saved from the waves of Allied bombing by the poor weather. The US aircrews were worried that if they allowed their bombs to fall too soon they might destroy their own landing ships. As they flew over they lingered before releasing their weapons, meaning the bombs often landed far behind the Nazi bunkers.

The Germans joked that the ‘Amis’ - their slang for the US forces - had merely bombed French cows and farmers rather than the German installations.

Alerted by the bombers, Severloh and the 29 others in his bunker rushed to their firing holes and prepared for the onslaught. Severloh, then just 20, gasped when he saw the ocean. He was confronted by what seemed to be a wall of Allied ships. He said: "My God. How am I going to get out of this mess?"

The veteran explained: "What could I do? I just thought that I was never going to make it to the rear. I thought that I was going to shoot for my very life. It was them or me - that is what I thought."

As the landing ships neared the beach, Severloh listened to the final orders from his commander, Lieutenant Berhard Frerking. They wanted to stop the Americans while they were still in the water and could not move easily. But if he fired too soon - while the soldiers were still some way out in the water - he risked missing them.

Frerking explained: "You must open fire when the enemy is knee-deep in the water and is still unable to run quickly."

Severloh had seen little action before. His previous stint on the Eastern Front had been cut short by tonsillitis. But he was anything but enthusiastic. Severloh said: "I never wanted to be in the war. I never wanted to be in France. I never wanted to be in that bunker firing a machine gun.

"I saw how the water sprayed up where my machine gun bursts landed, and when the small fountains came closer to the GIs, they threw themselves down. Very soon the first bodies were drifting in the waves of the rising tide. In a short time, all the Americans down there were shot."

He fired for nine hours, using up all the 12,000 machine-gun rounds. The sea turned red with the blood from the bodies. When he had no more bullets for the machine-gun, he started firing on the US soldiers with his rifle, firing off another 400 rifle rounds at the terrified GIs.

A leading German historical expert of the Second World War, Helmut Konrad Freiherr von Keusgen, believes Severloh may have accounted for 3,000 of the 4,200 American casualties on the day.

Severloh is less sure about the number, but said: "It was definitely at least 1,000 men, most likely more than 2,000. But I do not know how many men I shot. It was awful. Thinking about it makes me want to throw up. I almost emptied an entire infantry landing craft. The sea was red around it and I could hear an American officer shouting hysterically in a loudspeaker."

Lt-col Stuart Crawford, formerly of the Royal Tank Regiment, and a defence consultant, said it was entirely possible that a single German soldier had killed so many GIs.

He said: "I have fired that machine-gun. I did it as part of my training, and it has an extremely high rate of fire. He was in a position which was almost impervious to the weapons which the Americans could bring to bear on him. The Americans made the mistake of not landing tanks with the first wave of troops, so they had no support or protection

Jossakin mättää luvut tosi paljoan!

week's fighting casualties had mounted to 5,846 of which 1,225 were killed in action; more than half of these casualties came in the first day

Mistä ne saatiin ne 2000 kaatunutta?
Vai laskeeko jenkit kotiinpäin tässäkin?

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwii/100-11/100-11.htm

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwii/100-11/ch9.htm

CONCLUSION

AT 0125 ON 13 JUNE, V Corps received instructions from First Army, immediately communicated to subordinate units, which had the effect of marking the end of the Omaha beachhead operation (Map No. XVI). For the time being V Corps was to hold in its present positions, employing aggressive action by strong patrols to keep the enemy uncertain of our intentions. The First Army's offensive effort was concentrated on the right flank, where VII Corps continued its drive toward Cherbourg. XIX Corps was to become operational at noon, 14 June; consisting of the 30th and 29th Divisions, its missions was to secure and enlarge the CarentanIsigny corridor. First Army's instructions were confirmed by V Corps Field Order No. 5, published at 2100 on 13 June. The operations already under way on 13 June, in the Caumont and Hill 192 sectors, had been allowed to proceed during the day; the effect of Field Order No. 5 was to stop the effort toward Hill 192 at the positions reached that evening.

Starting from the smallest of footholds on D Day, V Corps had in one week driven inland 15 to 20 miles on a broad front. Junction had been firmly established with Allied forces on both flanks. The crisis of the whole operation had come at the very start, when unexpected enemy strength was met at the beach and the American troops had been called on for their utmost effort. Thereafter, the task of V Corps became progressively easier; the German 352d Division was pushed south at increasing speed and given no time to organize a defense. V Corps' advance had halted by decision of the higher command in view of overall tactical considerations. Its mission of capturing an adequate beachhead had been achieved.

In the course of a week's fighting casualties had mounted to 5,846 of which 1,225 were killed in action; more than half of these casualties came in the first day. Heaviest losses had fallen to the 29th Division, with 2,440 for the period; the 1st Division had 1,744 casualties, and the 2d Division 855. Enemy prisoners amounted to about 2,500, and casualties of the 352d Division had reduced that offensive unit to a shadow of its former strength.

Weeks of hard fighting were ahead, but the foundation for the final success of the Allied campaign in France had been firmly set. Scene of one of the hardest assault landings in military history, Omaha Beach was now part of a solid base for offensive operations which three months later reached the borders of Germany.

Kyllähän niissä Normandian taisteluissa saksalaisiakin kaatui paljon.

Kun länsiliittoutuneet pääsivät useiden tuntien vedessä, mudassa ja hiekassa rämpimisen jälkeen (ja valtavien tappioidenkin jälkeen) nousemaan sinne Normandian kallioille, niin silloin alkoikin jo olla sakuilla tukalat oltavat, tuli nimittäin taas se liittoutuneiden ylivoima eteen. Ei nimittäin pidä myöskään unohtaa liittoutuneiden laskuvarjojoukkojen valtavaa määrää Normandiassa, mitkä pudotettiin saksalaisten linjojen taakse. Jälleen oli liittoutuneilla ylivoima aseena.

Siis länsiliittoutuneiden tappiot kaatuneina arvioitiin siinä dokumentissa 11 000, ja saksalaisten 7 000 Normandian taisteluissa?
Jotain tuollaista minäkin muistan lukeneeni............

Ei jumalauta mikä idiootti alla olevassa linkissä kirjoittelee.

Usa tappoi pommituksissaan noin 1,2 miljoonaaa saksalaista siviiliä (enkut tais auttaa vähän) ja tämä aivovammainen jenkki valittaa kun Severkoh puolusti omaa maataan (vaikkakin Ranskan puolella)


http://velvelonnationalaffairs.blogspot.com/2004/07/heroization-of-german-who-shot.html

Kylläpä on mies ollut kova tappamaan. Mutta totuus on teiltä unohtunut.

Liittoituneitä ei edes kuollut 5000 miestä Normandissa, joten miten yksi mies olisi voinut tappaa 5000 jamppaa?

Esim The National D-Day Memorial sanoo että tappioita tuli lähes 4500.

http://www.dday.org/html/Honor_their_Sacrifice.html

Ja yksi mieskö oli tappanut lähes kaikki? Legendat Omahan kk-miehestä ovat todella paljon liioittelua.

Omaha-rannallako tuo tapahtui? Luku 5 000 taitaa olla legendaa, ehkä enintäin 500.

"Ovatko jenkit ja neuvostoliittolaiset/venäläiset pyytäneet anteeksi Wilhelm Gusthoffin upottamista, Saksan kaupunkien pommittamisia tai Hirosiman ja Nagasakin atomipommeja. Niiden uhrit olivat kuitenkin lähes 100% siviilejä: naisia ja lapsia, eivät hyökkääviä vihollissotilaita."

Sotia on vaikea voittaa ilman voiman käyttöä.

Kaatuneita amerikkalaisia Omaha Beachilla oli arvion mukaan 777, "killed" ei tosin välttämättä tarkoita kaatuneita, eli" killed in action", vaan voi sisältää myös haavoihin kuolleet.


Casualties at Omaha Beach on D-Day: Total casualty figures for D-Day were not recorded at the time and are difficult to confirm in full. The US Army has lost 3,686 casualties including around 777 killed. Other Allied losses include 539 naval and 10 air forces casualties. The German have lost over 1,000 casualties

Serbi maajussi ampui haulikolla alas jenkkien stealth hävittäjän Jugoslavian sodassa.