Eilen postasin tänne keskustelun "Chavezin puhe" ja nyt en näe sitä täällä enään? Poistettu?
Voiko sabotoida toisten kokonaisia keskusteluja vastaamalla niihin kirjoittamalla esm karkeaa pornografiaa niin että sheriffi poistaa koko keskustelun?
Tässä taas puhe videona:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-c5PPIEziA
Ja tekstinä:
http://www.counterpunch.com/chavez09202006.html
Ja tässä Noam Chomsky'n mainio selitys joka mielestäni sopii mukaan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cHrEbrBEfc
Chavezin puhe oli mielestäni aika ok. Media tietysti fokusoi siihen että Chávez kutsui Bushia "paholaiseksi".
"The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It's not that we are extremists. It's that the world is waking up. It's waking up all over. And people are standing up."
Voiko sabotoida toisten kokonaisia keskusteluja vastaamalla niihin kirjoittamalla esm karkeaa pornografiaa niin että sheriffi poistaa koko keskustelun?
Tässä taas puhe videona:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-c5PPIEziA
Ja tekstinä:
http://www.counterpunch.com/chavez09202006.html
Ja tässä Noam Chomsky'n mainio selitys joka mielestäni sopii mukaan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cHrEbrBEfc
Chavezin puhe oli mielestäni aika ok. Media tietysti fokusoi siihen että Chávez kutsui Bushia "paholaiseksi".
"The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It's not that we are extremists. It's that the world is waking up. It's waking up all over. And people are standing up."
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Chavezin puhe oli pelkkää asiaa. Ja arvostettua: 5 min raivoisat suosionosoitukset puheelle.
Sitoutumattomat maat ovat alkaneet tosissaan laittaa kampoihin nykymenolle. Saa nähdä kuinka pitkälle USA antaa Etelä-Amerikan kansojen vapaasti valita johtajansa puuttumatta sotilaallisesti asioihin? Vieläpä kun Ortegakin tekee kovasti paluuta Nicaraguan presidentiksi.
Viestien poistoista: sheriffi sensuroi puolueellisesti, siitä ei ole enää mitään epäilystä.
Tietyt henkilöt saavat huoletta laittaa muilta sivuilta kopioimaan tekstejä, ilman että niitä poistetaan. Pääasia on, että teksti on sheriffin perussuomalaisten mielipiteiden mukainen, ts. mielellään rasistinen tai muslimivastainen.
CHAVEZ veljeni armaani SANOIT SEN NAPPIIN
hyvä Chavez!
Oli kiinnostavaa nähdä Chavezin suosittelevan Chomskyn kirjaa ja miten ihmiset kikattelivat siitä. Todella poliittisesti inkorrekti kirja, mutta musta tuntuu että todentuntuinen.
Chomsky tosin taitaa olla eräänlainen gatekeeper.
"Saa nähdä kuinka pitkälle USA antaa Etelä-Amerikan kansojen vapaasti valita johtajansa puuttumatta sotilaallisesti asioihin?"
No USA:lla taitaa nyt olla vaikeuksia saada Etelä-Amerikan ja Iranin haltuunsa, mukaan uuteen maailman järjestykseen.
Mutta vaikeetahan se on oikeasti ymmärtää miten asiat on...
Niinkun Chomsky sen selitti:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cHrEbrBEfc
USAlla on ollut kaks keinoa kontrolloida maita, yks on väkivalta ja toinen on "ekonominen kuristus-ote": IMF, jolta lainaaminen on vähän kun lainaisi mafialta, mutta viel huonompi idea. (Koulukirjat jne propaganda tosin selittää toisin.)
IMF:
http://100777.com/node/304
http://100777.com/node/1406
Olisi kiinnostavaa tietää sensuroitiinko keskustelu minun, ensimmäisen viestin takia, vai postasiko joku siihen jotain mistä sheriffi ei pitänyt.
Chávez endorsement results in a best-seller
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/22/news/chomsky.php
Chávez made headlines for his United Nations speech on Wednesday calling President George W. Bush "the devil himself," but a reading suggestion he made in the same speech created a best-seller.
Chávez began his UN speech by displaying a copy of the U.S. writer Noam Chomsky's book "Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance" and recommended that Americans read it instead of watching Superman and Batman movies, which he said "make people stupid."...
http://www.williamlkatz.com/Essays/CurrentEvents/HugoChavez.php
The Meaning of Hugo Chavez
by William Loren Katz
To the sputtering fury of a Bush administration who has repeatedly conspired
with Venezuela¹s elite to drive Hugo Chavez from power, the Black Indian
President of this oil-rich nation has scored a decisive 59% victory over a
recall effort.
Chavez now sits more comfortably than ever atop a fourth of the world oil
supplies‹equal to that of Iraq‹and he supplies a fifth of US oil needs. In
addition, he is current leader of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting
Countries, or OPEC. George W. Bush would prefer his friends in Saudi Arabia
rather than Chavez set global oil prices.
US attacks on Chavez caricature him as a tyrant in the class of Saddam
Hussein, or a Marxist, or a ferociously anti-American clone of Castro.
Actually, his populist uprising springs from multicultural grass roots that
pre-date the foreign invasion of the Americas that began in 1492.
Like four-fifths of Venezuelans, Chavez was born of poor Black and Indian
parents. Since the days of Columbus descendants of the Spanish
conquistadores who supplied the governing classes of the Americas, have
denied indigenous people a say in their future. Chavez represents a strong
challenge.
Chavez is not only proud of his biracial legacy, but has begun to use oil
revenues to help the poor of all colours improve their education and
economic standing. He also flatly rejects Bush administration efforts to
isolate Cuba, counts Castro a friend, and has repeatedly accused the US of
meddling in his country and around the world.
Chavez rules a country where three percent of the population, mostly of
white European descent, own 77% of the land. In recent decades millions of
hungry peasants have drifted into Caracas and other cities, and live in
barrios of cardboard shacks and open sewers. Chavez has begun to transfer
fields from giant unused or abandoned haciendas to peasant hands, and as
landlords have responded with howls of alarm, he has promised further
distributions.
But he has repeatedly held out an olive branch to his foes. He recently
stated, "All this stuff about Chavez and his hordes coming to sweep away the
rich, it's a lie. We have no plan to hurt you. All your rights are
guaranteed, you who have large properties or luxury farms or cars."
Chavez has begun to target the foreign oil giants who keep about 84% of
Venezuela¹s oil profits. To attack the problems of his people in health,
illiteracy and poverty, he has demanded 30%.
In 1998 and 2000 Chavez won the Presidency by majorities Republicans and
Democrats here can only dream about. In 2002 he defeated a two-day coup
attempt engineered by his local elite in alliance with US interests, and in
the recent recall vote, 90% of voters turned out. Chavez¹s strength rests
with his poorest citizens who have mobilized behind a broader agenda than
his, one which includes participatory democracy and elevating the status of
women.
http://i.am/jah/democra.htm
Using rising oil revenues, Chavez has brought education to almost a million
children who never sat in a classroom. And with 10,000 Cuban doctors, a gift
from Fidel Castro, he has opened 11,000 medical clinics primarily in
barrios.
Over the centuries South Americans have endured a crop of caudillos, or
military dictators. Many who began office sounding a radical note were
overthrown by the CIA or other instruments of foreign governments. Others
remained in power by listening to American ambassadors. Though it is too
early to tell, this former paratrooper seems to spring from an earlier age
when Africans and Indians united to fight the first European invaders, and
then continued the struggle for self-determination by political means.
For inspiration Chavez can reach back to the misty dawn of the foreign
landings when heroic Black Indian ancestors first rose to battle
colonialism. In 1819 Simon Bolivar, of African and Indian lineage and the
victorious revolutionary leader of South America, became the first elected
President of Venezuela. Vicente Guerrero, a guerrilla General in the Mexican
Revolution helped liberate his country from Spain. Though the ruling elite
denounced him as a ³triple-blooded outsider,² in 1829 he became Mexico¹s
first Black Indian President, wrote its constitution, emancipated its
slaves, ended racial discrimination and banished the death penalty.
http://i.am/jah/syst.htm
Though his white foes also denounce Chavez as a racial outsider, the faces
of his millions of supporters refute the claim. He continues to triumph at
the polls, speak truth to power, and use oil revenues to meet his peoples¹
needs. He appears unconcerned that he has excited the fury of the giant to
the north, and at times seems to relish this role.
Time will tell if Chavez¹s programs and supporters can protect him from the
machinations of his US enemies allied with his foes at home. Venezuelans
have begun their own cultural revolution, and though it undergirds Chavez¹s
political and economic advances, it may take some different directions.
Hugo Chavez and his people may yet write another chapter in the audacious
book begun by Simon Bolivar, Vicente Guerrero and millions of other
Venezuelan Africans and Indians.
"The Meaning of Hugo Chavez" has appeared in The Black World Today, Black
Star News, Global Black News and Counterpunch.