Talmud ja kristilliset totuudet

Mitähän kristittyjen teokset samalta ajalta sanovat juutalaisista? Kun kerran olet tietäväinen, voisitko valistaa meitä?

http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/jesusnarr.html

Talmudissa ei puhuta lainkaan siitä Jeesuksesta, josta tuli kristittyjen Jumala. Mainitsemasi kohdat käydään tuolla sivulla läpi.

Johdannossa:There are four main passages in the Talmud that are alleged by some to discuss the story of Jesus' life and death. What we will do here is to analyze closely these passages and see the reasons one may or may not attribute these stories to the life of Jesus. We will also look at another two passages that help us identify our protagonist(s). We will quickly realize that there are great difficulties in stating that any of these texts refer to Jesus. We will see that a large number of historians and talmudists have addressed these issues and have concluded that either none of these passages refer to Jesus or that they refer to a proto-Jesus, whose life was later obfuscated by the theologically motivated rewriting of history.

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..Conclusion:

It seems clear by now that there is no consensus whether Jesus is mentioned at all in the Talmud. Most of the supposed "blasphemies" of Jesus and Mary in the Talmud do not refer to them at all. However, there can be no denying, and no rabbi would deny this, that the authors of the Talmud did not believe in Jesus' messiahship or his divinity. If you are looking for Christian fellowship then Jewish literature is not the place to look. However, there is no basis at all to state unequivocably that the Talmud calls Jesus a bastard or that Mary was a prostitute who had sex with many men. As has been shown, those passages definitely do not refer to Jesus.


Esimerkiksi tässä on artikkeli kohdasta johon viittaat että "että Jeesuksen äiti oli huora." (Sanhedrin 106b; Aboth v. 19):

http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/jesus.html

The Accusation
Insults Against Blessed Mary, Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

"Jesus was a bastard born of adultery." (Yebamoth 49b, p.324).
"Mary was a whore: Jesus (Balaam) was an evil man." (Sanhedrin 106a &b, p.725).
"Jesus was a magician and a fool. Mary was an adulteress". (Shabbath 104b, p.504).

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Noin väitetään, mutta: KAIKKI väitteet kumotaan. Joka haluaa tutustua kristinuskoon, tutkikoon kristittyjen kirjoituksia.

ja tendenssimäinen ote asiaan. Voihan tuo miespoloinen olla erehtynytkin!

nuo ns.judaistien väitteet kristinuskon synnystä vaikuttivat paljon uskottavammilta kuin kristittyjen sellaiset.
Panthera oli yleinen roomalaissotilaan nimi Jeesuksen aikaan.Väitetään ,että Saksasta olisi löytynut Jeesuksen aikainen hauta,jossa olisi ollut kirjoituksen mukaan Panthera-niminen roomalainen sotilas,kotoisin Sidonista läheltä Galileaa.
Panthera-juoru on paljon vanhempi kuin yleisesti uskotaankaan ,se juontuu juurensa jopa Jeesuksenkin aikaan.