http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/899363.html
Mischa Shauli sat at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., completely beside himself. It had been years since the first time he heard about the existence of a document said to prove that Stalin, not Hitler, bore the main responsibility for World War II, and for years he had searched for it with all his skills as a professional detective. Shauli's last position was as Commander Shauli, Representative of the Israel Police in Russia. Previous to that he had been head of the police fraud investigation unit for the Southern District.
A few years ago Shauli read "Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War," by Bogdan Rozen. Rozen, who now lives in England, wrote it under the pseudonym of Viktor Suvorov. Shauli, impressed by the book, translated it into Hebrew and saw to its publication here.
From out of the sea of details, a coherent thesis emerges: Stalin dragged Hitler into war to force Europe into chaos and facilitate a communist revolution on the continent. According to Shauli, there is evidence to back up this theory, including a speech by Stalin himself as well as a report obtained by the U.S. Consulate in Prague. The report has been mentioned here and there over the years, but it has never been published, because no one knows where it is today.
Shauli, 59, believed that the definitive evidence was out there, hiding somewhere. He believed, and did not give up, repeatedly setting out to find it, going as far as Washington. No one is happier than he is today: The document is in his possession, and now the history of World War II may have to be rewritten: It was Stalin's fault.
The document, from October 1939, consists of three pages in English that purportedly reflect a dialogue in Moscow between a delegation from Czechoslovakia and a senior Soviet Foreign Ministry official. The Czechs tried to find out why the U.S.S.R. had signed the nonaggression treaty with Nazi Germany, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939. A few days later the Germans invaded Poland, and World War II began.
The Soviet official, Alexandrov by name, explained to the Czech delegation that had the Soviet Union signed an agreement with the West, Hitler would not have dared to launch a war, and without that war there would have been no possibility of imposing communism in Europe. He also listed the benefits to the Soviet Union of the pact with Nazi Germany, and of the war.
The veracity of the document must be proved, and even if it turns out to be genuine, its significance is worthy of debate. Mischa Shauli is continuing his investigation. No, he said this week, he does not fear that shifting responsibility for the war from Hitler to Stalin "acquits" Hitler; he is responsible for other crimes.
Mischa Shauli sat at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., completely beside himself. It had been years since the first time he heard about the existence of a document said to prove that Stalin, not Hitler, bore the main responsibility for World War II, and for years he had searched for it with all his skills as a professional detective. Shauli's last position was as Commander Shauli, Representative of the Israel Police in Russia. Previous to that he had been head of the police fraud investigation unit for the Southern District.
A few years ago Shauli read "Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War," by Bogdan Rozen. Rozen, who now lives in England, wrote it under the pseudonym of Viktor Suvorov. Shauli, impressed by the book, translated it into Hebrew and saw to its publication here.
From out of the sea of details, a coherent thesis emerges: Stalin dragged Hitler into war to force Europe into chaos and facilitate a communist revolution on the continent. According to Shauli, there is evidence to back up this theory, including a speech by Stalin himself as well as a report obtained by the U.S. Consulate in Prague. The report has been mentioned here and there over the years, but it has never been published, because no one knows where it is today.
Shauli, 59, believed that the definitive evidence was out there, hiding somewhere. He believed, and did not give up, repeatedly setting out to find it, going as far as Washington. No one is happier than he is today: The document is in his possession, and now the history of World War II may have to be rewritten: It was Stalin's fault.
The document, from October 1939, consists of three pages in English that purportedly reflect a dialogue in Moscow between a delegation from Czechoslovakia and a senior Soviet Foreign Ministry official. The Czechs tried to find out why the U.S.S.R. had signed the nonaggression treaty with Nazi Germany, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939. A few days later the Germans invaded Poland, and World War II began.
The Soviet official, Alexandrov by name, explained to the Czech delegation that had the Soviet Union signed an agreement with the West, Hitler would not have dared to launch a war, and without that war there would have been no possibility of imposing communism in Europe. He also listed the benefits to the Soviet Union of the pact with Nazi Germany, and of the war.
The veracity of the document must be proved, and even if it turns out to be genuine, its significance is worthy of debate. Mischa Shauli is continuing his investigation. No, he said this week, he does not fear that shifting responsibility for the war from Hitler to Stalin "acquits" Hitler; he is responsible for other crimes.
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Vanhimmat
kommunisti-änkyrä -siipikään ei vielää ole ottanut asiaan mitään kantaa. Kovin on hiljaisiksi pojat menneet.
Minulle itselleni tuossa ei ole mitään uutta. Enemmänkin päivänselvä asia, sillä 2MS:n alkuun vaikutti suurelta osaltaan Euroopan etupiirijako Hitlerin ja Stalinin kanssa. Tällöin Stalin on ollut jo ainakin osallisena sodan syttymiseen.
Ilmeisesti tähän rikkomattomaan hiljaisuuteen vaikuttaa voimakkaasti myös se, että tuossa viestissäsi syytettiin suoraan Stalinia. Nythän punikit vaikenevat tuollaisen tilanteen kohdatessa vaistonvaraisesti, sillä normaalisti tuollaisia puhunut kaveri joutuu välittömästi Siperiaan. Tällöin aloitetaan välittömästi puhdistukset myös kaveripiiriä/sukulaisia myöten ja kommentoimalla tuollaista avausta saattaisi politrukki tulkita myös kommentoijan kätyriksi. Niin kuin vastaavissa tapauksissa useimmiten tekikin.
On aika yksisilmäistä vierittää maailmansodan syttymisen syy pelkästään Stalinin osalle, ja että Hitlerillä ei olisi ollut osaa, eikä arpaa koko sotkussa.
Naurettavia väitteitä!
Nämä ahkerasti mainitut diktaattorit olivat aikakautenaan tietyistä prosesseista ja maailmantilanteista "kypsyneitä" hedelmiä. En menisi heitä sen enempää demonisoimaan kuin ihailemaankaan. Yksin, ilman kannattajia, palvojia, silmänsä sulkijoita, opportunisteja, pelkureita, heitä ei vaikuttajina koskaan olisi ollutkaan.
Sitäpaitsi puhuisin vain yhdestä maailmansodasta, jossa vuoden 1918 jälkeen oli jonkinlainen välivaihe.
Totta, ensimmäinen maailmansota lopetti pitkähkön lähes-rauhan kauden (ellei ajatella asiaa siirtomaiden kannalta). Sen jälkeisetr tapahtumat olivat suoraa jatkoa I maailmansodalle, ei vain Euroopassa, vaan myös Aasiassa.
Ennen sodan alkua Stalin kuitenkin tarjosi Ranskalle ja Englannille I ms:n tapaista liittosopimusta johon EI kuitenkaan saapunut vastausta.
Eikö tämän nojalla voitaisi siis myös yhtälailla väittää, että syylliset sodan alkamiseen olivat Stalinin lisäksi myös Ranksan ja Englannin johtohahmot saamattomuutensa/tyhmyyden vuoksi?.
Mitkä olivat Englannin tavoitteet Saksan tai sodan suhteen? Tai mitkä Stalinin? Entäs amerikkalaiset tai puolalaiset sitten?
Englannin selkeänä tavoitteena oli tuhota Saksa, jotta se ei uhkaisi Englannin maailmanvaltiutta ja kilpailukykyä Euroopassa. Tuhoaminen tuli tällä kertaa tapahtua lopullisesti.
Syyn hakeminen siihen ja tähän on toki yhteiskunnallisella tasolla tärkeää. Ja "menneen" totuudellistaminen yksilötasolla monelle.
Historia toimii "ilman muuta" loistavana vertailupohjana.
Kuka on "syyllinen" nykytilanteeseen, jossa "hidas sota" elinympäristöä kohtaan alkaa koskettaa jokaista?
Voiko sodan luonne muuttua, ja voiko olla että yksi jos toinen sota ei olekaan loppunut?