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>>.... mistä ihmeestä olette tuollaista saaneet päähänne.

Joku on saattanut vetää johtopäätösen esimerkiksi siitä, että 1917-1937 noin 75 % raamatuntutkijoista lähti kälkkimään, liittyen muihin liikeisiin. Syynä oli Rutherfordin lainvastainen omaisuuden kaappaaminen sekä keskusjohtoisen järjestelmän pakottaminen. Eli 25 % emäuskonnosta jatkoi jehovantodistajina. 1925-1927 muistonviettoon osallistuminen putosi noin viidenteen osaan. Syynä oli Russelin kärhämöinti ja omavaltaisuus.

Tunge peräaukkoon naurettava lahkosi. Mahtaa harmittaa kun kaikkien kenttävuosiesi jälkeen huomaat vain että olet palvellut kuollutta uskontoa! HAHHHHAAAHHHHAAHHHAAAH! Tuherruksesi on TÄYSIN TURHAA!

Käyppä levittämässä sanomaasi talebaneille, hekin väittävät olevansa ainoita oikeita. Ettekös te ole pakanoita? Vai tunnustatteko pyhän kolminaisuuden, kuten raamatussa mainitaan. Mihinkäs teistä loput menee, kun taivaspaikkoja on vain 400-tuhatta. Kuljette ovelta ovelle vain rahan takia, saattehan 3300€ jokaisesta käännytetystä? Kusetatte vanhuksia. HÄVETKÄÄ!!!!

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Käyppä levittämässä sanomaasi talebaneille, hekin väittävät olevansa ainoita oikeita. Ettekös te ole pakanoita? Vai tunnustatteko pyhän kolminaisuuden, kuten raamatussa mainitaan. Mihinkäs teistä loput menee, kun taivaspaikkoja on vain 400-tuhatta. Kuljette ovelta ovelle vain rahan takia, saattehan 3300€ jokaisesta käännytetystä? Kusetatte vanhuksia. HÄVETKÄÄ!!!!

Mistähän kohtaa Raamatusta löydät kolminaisuusopin tai luvun 400-tuhatta? Kolminaisuusdogmin kehittäminen suoritettin pääasiallisesti loppuun 300-luvulla. Länsimailla se valettiin Athanasiuksen tunnustuksen kaavoihin(Iso tietosanakirja). Ootko kuullu jonkun saavan rahaa saarnaamistyöstä vai keksitkö omasta päästä kun tiedät että tollaset valheet uppoo tosi hyvin herkkäuskoisiin jotka eivät vaivaudu itse ottamaan asioista selvää?

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Mistähän kohtaa Raamatusta löydät kolminaisuusopin tai luvun 400-tuhatta? Kolminaisuusdogmin kehittäminen suoritettin pääasiallisesti loppuun 300-luvulla. Länsimailla se valettiin Athanasiuksen tunnustuksen kaavoihin(Iso tietosanakirja). Ootko kuullu jonkun saavan rahaa saarnaamistyöstä vai keksitkö omasta päästä kun tiedät että tollaset valheet uppoo tosi hyvin herkkäuskoisiin jotka eivät vaivaudu itse ottamaan asioista selvää?

89 proofs of a Divine Trinity

   What I mean by Divine Trinity is that there are three separate and distinct persons in the Godhead, each one having His own personal spirit body, personal soul, and personal spirit in the same sense each human being, angel, or any other being has his own body, soul, and spirit. What I mean by body is, whether a spirit body or a flesh body, the house for the indwelling of the personal soul and spirit. The soul is that which feels and the spirit is that which knows.
   The doctrine of the Trinity can be clearly seen, being understood by the visible things that are made, even to His eternal power and Godhead (Rom. 1:20). What on earth was created in the image and likeness of God? Man (Gen. 1:26-28). Does God's image and likeness consist only of moral and spiritual powers? If so, it can be concluded that man is only a moral and spiritual being. Is God bodiless? If so, we can conclude that man is also bodiless. Is God only one being made up of several persons or beings in the one being? If so, we can conclude that man is one person or being made up of many. Does God need a flesh body in order to have any kind of body? No! There are such things as spirit and heavenly bodies. See 1 Cor. 15:35-38. From this passage I learn that all things in creation - grain, fish. birds, beasts, man, angels, and even the planets have bodies, sizes, shapes, and forms.
   The Bible declares that God has a body, shape image, likeness, bodily parts, a personal soul and spirit, and all other things that constitute a being or a person with a body, soul, and spirit. Angels, seraphim, and all other spirit beings have spirit bodies and personal souls and spirits. They have been seen with the natural eyes of men over 100 times in Scripture. If all other spirit beings have spirit bodies, could not the members of the Trinity also have spirit bodies? The 284 passages on spirits in Scripture prove that spirit bodies are just as real and capable of operation in the material worlds as are flesh beings. There Is no such thing as a world of creations made up of invisible substances. The so-called spirit-world must be understood simply a s spirit beings inhabiting materia1 worlds created by God. Heaven itself is a material planet(Gen. 1:1; Heb. 11: 10- 16), having cities, mansions, furniture, inhabitants, living conditions, etc.
   God has been seen bodily by human eyes many times(Gen. 18:1-33; 19~ 24; 32 :24-30;Ex. 24:11; 33 :11-23;Jos .5:13-15; Judg.6:l1-23; 13:3-25; 1 Chr. 21:16-17; Job 42:5; Isa. 6; Ezek. 1:26-28; 10:1,20; 40:3; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5- 10; Acts 7: 56-59; Rev. 4:2-5; 5:1, 5-7,11-14; 6:16; 7:9-17; 19.4; 21:3-5; 22:4)
   In over 20,000 references about God in Scripture we get to know all we need to know about the subject. If we will take the Bible literally as to what it says about Him, as we do with other things the subject will be very clear; but If we make God a mystery, ignore the plain statements of Scripture about Him, and refuse to believe the many descriptions of God given by those who have seen one, two, and three separate persons called "God," then we will remain in ignorance.
   It is true there are a few figurative statements about God In Scripture, as there are about man and other things, but shall we do away with the reality of man and these other things because of a few figures of speech? Let us make man mere salt and llghts (Mt. 5:13-14), if we are going to do away with God because of a few figures of speech.
   I submit the following facts in Holy Writ to prove a Divine Trinity of separate persons in the Godhead:

1) The word ONE means one in unity as well as one in number. It means unity in 1 John 5:7, as it does in John. 17: 1-23, and yet these three persons, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, are spoken of as one each in number and individuality in Scripture. There is one God the Father, one Lord Jesus Christ, and one Holy Ghost (1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 4: 3-6). That there are three separate persons in divine individuality and divine plurality. The Father is called God, (1 Cor. 8:6), the Son is called God (Isa. 9:6-7; Heb. 1:8; Jo, 1:1-2; 28), and the Holy Spirit is called God (Acts 5:34). As individual persons each can be called God and collectively they can be spoken of as one God because of their perfect unity. The word God is used either as a singular or word, like god.
   Everything that could been of God collectively applies equally to each member of the Godhead as an individual, but there are some things that are said of each person of the Deity as to position, office, and work that could not be spoken as of the other members of the Godhead. The Father is the head of Christ (1 Gor. 11:3); the Son is the only begotten of the Father (2 Jn.3), and the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father ano the Son (Jn.14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15; Acts 2:34)

2) Names of God prove plurality of persons. The Hebrew word Elohim is the word for God. In Gen. 1:1 and in over 2700 other places in the 0. T. It is a uri-plural noun meaning Gods and is so trans. 239 times (Gen. 3:5; 22:28; l Sam.4-8; Dan. 2:11; 4:6-9; 5:11,14; etc. ). Sometimes Elohim Is used with plural verbs and pronouns, "the Gods they caused me to wander" (Gen. 20: there the Gods they appeared unto him" (Gen. 35:7)

3) Plural pronouns are used of God, proving plurality of persons(Gen. 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa. 6:8; Jn 14:23; 17:11, 22-23)

4) FIrst, second, and third personal pronouns are used hundreds of times in Scripture, referring to one, two, and three persons of the Godhead in the same sense they are used of men. Sometimes the different members of the Deity use them to and of one another in the same sense man uses them. In Jn.17 alone Jesus uses them 162 times in speaking to and of His Father. Couple this with Jn 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15. Sometimes singular pronouns are used of the whole Godhead of three members as a unity (Ex.20:3;Isa. 44:6,8; 45:5, 21; 46:9; Hos. 13:4), just like the whole church as a unit is spoken of as a man and he (Eph, 2:14-15; 4:13; 5:26; 2 Thes 2:7-8)

5) Man Is become as one of US proves plurality of persons (Gen. 3:22)

6) Two and three persons called God have been seen by the same men at the same time and places as being seperate persons(Dan. 7:9-14; Mt. 3: 16-17; jn. 1:31-34;Acts 7:54-60; Rev. 6:16; 7:9- 17; 21:22; 22:3)

7) Two Lords are mentioned in Gen.19:24, one on earth and one in heaven.

8) Two persons are referred to in the O.T. See Ps. 8:5-6 with Heb. 2:5-18; Ps,16: 8-10 with Acts 2:25-36;Ps. 22:1- 22 with Mt. 27:35,39-43,45-46; Heb.9:14; 10. 5-12;Ps. 40:6-10 with Heb.10:5-7; and Ps. 45:6-7 with Heb. 1:8-9

9) Two LORDS are mentioned sitting side by side (Ps. 110:1, 5; Mt. 22:44;26:64; Acts 2:33-34; 7:54-56; Rom. 8:34; Eph, 1:20; Cot, 3:1; Heb. 1:3, 13;8:1; 10'.12; 12:2; iPet. 3:22; Rev. 22:3)

10) Two persons are mentioned and required in order to understand the plain language of Ps. 2;8- 19; 132: 17;Pr. 30:4; Isa. 4:2; 10:16-17; 28:16; 49~.1-10;50:4-11; 52:13-53d2; 62:11; Mic. 5:1-5; Jer. 23:4-8; 33:14-26; Zech,3:8- 10; 6:12-13. In these passages one is anointed, becomes the son of, is sent by, is taught by, and becomes the servant of the other and both are called Lord!

ll) Three self-acting persons-the Lord God, the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit, are referred to as a blessing, anointing, sending, and doing things for one another in lsa. 11:2; 42:1-7; 48:16; 59:21; 61:1-2; 63:1-14; Zech. 12:10-13:2

12) ln Zech, 1:7-21 the Lord of Hosts and the angel of the Lord (also called Lord, 1:19-20; 2:1-13) are talking together. One Lord says of the other Lord that He has sent Him to Israel (2:8-13). One Lord refers to Himself as Me and to theLordof HostsasHis and H~(2:8-11). This conference continues throughout Zechariah until 13:6-7 where both Lords are called fellows or associates

13) Jesus Christ is called the son of Abraham, David, Mary, and of God (Mt. 1:1; Mk. 1:1; 6:3), He is just as much a separate person from God as He Is of these other persons

14) Two persons are referred to many times in the N.T. (Mt. 11:27; Lk. 23:46;Jn. 1:1-2, 18; 5:19-20; 14:1-9; 16:15; 17:3, 10; Acts 2:38-39; 3:13-26; Phil.. 2:5-11; Eph. 3:5; Col. 1:15; 2 Thess 2:16-17; TIt. 2:13; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev.20:6; 22:3)

15) Two and three persons are mentioned in N.T. books (Rom. 1:1-4, 7; 1 Cor. 1:3; Jas. 1.~ 1; 1 Pet.1: 1-3;2 Jn.3; Rev. 1: 1-6;etc.)

16) God is the head of Christ and thus greater than Him position but not in nature(l Cor.3: 23; 11:3; 1 Chr. 29:11; Jn. 14:28)

17) Christ is the mediator between God and man, not between Himself and man (1 Tim. 2:5)

18) Two and three persons are referred to in every NT. book (Mt. 5:16-17; 12:31-32; 17:5; 22:43-45; 28:10; Mk.1:1-2, 10; 13:32; Lk. 1:32-35; 2:40, 52; 5:22; 4:1; 4:18; k35; 25:46; 24:39I with Jn 4:24; Jn.1:1-3, 14. 18; 5:17-I 23, 31-38; 6:37,46, 57; 7:16-18,28,37-39; 8:13-19,26-38,42,54; 10:15-18,24, 29, 36; 12: 26-31, 44,49-50;14:1-26,28-30; 15:1-26; 16: 1-33; 17:1-26; 18:11; 20:17, 21; Acts 1:7-8; 2:24-36; 3:13-26; 4:10, 26-31; 5:29-3;7:37, 55-56; 8:12-17; 17; 10:38-48;17:31; Rom.1:3,7, 9; 5:1-11; 8:1-13, 26-39; 1 Cor. 1:3-9; 2:10; 3:23; 8:6;11:3; 12:3; 15:57; 2 Cor.1:2-3; 5:1?-21; 13:14; Gal. 1:1-3; Eph. 1:2-3; 3:14;4:3-6; 6:23; phil. 1:2; 2:5-11;Col. 1:2-3, 13-19; 3:1; 1 Th. 1:1-10; 3:13; 1 Tim. 1.2; 2:5; 5.21; 6:14-16; 2 Tim. 1:2; 4:1; Tit. 1:4; 2:13; Phil 3; In no conceivable way can we force a meaning of three persons as one person; three beings in one being; or three manifestations of only one person in any of these or any other scripture.

19) There are and separate witnesses that bear witness of Christ (1 Jn. 5:5-11, 13, 20). Both God and man require this many personal and separate witnesses to confirm any point (Mt. 18:16; 2 Cor. 13:1). The water and blood of 1 Jn. 5:8 could not b e accepted as accredited personal witnesses in themselves. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are the only personal witnesses of this passage. If we consider these to be only one person, then there are not the required number of witnesses to establish the truth of the Sonship of Jesus Christ. We are forced by facts to admit all of 1 Jn. 5: 7-8 as inspired Scripture and therefore, the fact that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three separate and personal witnesses instead of being only one person or witness.

Many scriptures confirm these three witnesses:
1)The Father(Jer. 29:23; Mal. 3: 5; Jo. 5:31-37, notes; Rom, 1:9: Heb. 1:1-2; 2:3-4)
2)The Son(Isa. 55:4; Jo. 18:37; 1 Tim, 6:13; Rev, 1:5)
3)The Holy Spirit(Rom. 8:16; Jn, 15:26; Heb. 10: 15; iJo, 3:6)

   If all three are witnesses, then they must be separate persons. The water and the blood simply confirm the intelligent testimonies of the three persons of the Godhead and give additional weight to the Sonship of Jesus

20) The words THROUGH and BY, used of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, but not once of the Father prove God to be a separate person and the Head and Director of all things done BY and THROUGH them (1 Cor. 3:23; 11:3; Jo. 10:29:14:28; 14:16-17,26; 15:26; 16:7-15; Acts 2:33-34):
(1)   THROUGH Jesus Christ (Acts 4:2;Rom 1:8; 5:1,11; 6:23; 7:25; 15:17;16:27; 1 Cor. 15:57; 2 Cor. 3:4; Gal 3:14; 4:7; 5:10; Eph, 2:7, 18; Phil, 4:7,13; Tit. 3:6; Heb. 13:21; 1 Pet. 1:22;
(2)   Jesus Christ (Jo. 1:3, 10, 17;10:9;Acts 4:10; 10:36;Rom. 2:16; 3:22;5:17, 21; Gal. 1:1; Eph,. 1:5; 3:9; Col.1:15-20; 3:17; Heb. 1:1-3; 1 Pet, 2:5;5:10)
(3)   THROUGH the Holy Spirit (Acts 1.2; 21:4; Rom. 8:13; 15:13, 19; Gal 5:5; Eph. 2:22; Heb. 9:14)
(4)   BY the Holy Spirit (Ezek. 11:24;Mic.3:8; Zech.4:6; Mt. 12:28; Lk, 2:27; 4:1; Acts 11:28; Rom. 5:5; 15:19;1 Cor, 2:10; 6:11; 12:3, 13)the Father: time Jesus was on eatth (Mt. 5:16,48)

Proofs that Jesus is not the Father

21) The Father was in heaven all the time Jesus was on earth (Matt 5:16-48)

22) Christ now sits at the right nand of the Father (see note 9, above)

23) Jesus said He would confess men BEFORE MY FATHER, proving He is not the Father (Mt. 10:32; Rev. 3:5)

24) Jesus always prayed to the Father as a separate person(Mt. 11:25; Jn. 17)

25) The Father existed OUTSIDE the body of Jesus, so He could not be Jesus(Mt. 2:22; 3:17; 17:5; jn. 12:27-30)

26) Both Jesus and Satan refer to a God separate from "Jesus" (Mt. 4:6-10)

27) God was the Father of Jesus, not Jesus, Himself (Eph. 1:3, 17; 3:14)

28) In parables Jesus illustrates His relationship to the Father as that of separate persons (Mt. 21: 33-48; Jn. 15:1-8)

29) Men are taught to go directly to the Father and not to pray to Jesus (Jn.14:12-15; 15:16; 16:23-26)

30) The Father knew things Jesus did not know (Mk. 13:32; Acts 1:7)

31) Others saw Jesus as a separate person from the Father (Dan. 7:9-14; A cts 7:56)

32) Jesus committed His own spirit to the Father, not to Himself (Lk. 23:46)

33) Jesus claimed that He came FROM God and WAS GOING BACK TO God (Jn. 8:42; 16:5; 10:36; 17:8)

34) God is a Spirit and not flesh and blood,like Jesus was (Jn. 4:24; 19:34; Mt. 16:17; Lk. 24:39)

35) Men on earth with Jesus heard God speak as a separate person FROM heaven(Mt. 3:17; 17:5; 2 Pet. 1:16-18)

36) Jesus claimed to be the Son of God not the Father, Himself (Jn. 5:17-35)

37) Jesus called the Father MY God even after the resurrection (Jn. 20:17; Rev. 3:12)

38) Jesus called God My Father 57 times (Tn. 15:1; Rev. 2: 27). How could He be His own God and Father and beget Himself?

39) When Jesus was born on earth angela and men still recognized God in heaven (Lk. 2:7-16). Were they mistaken about God? Was the child all of God on earth and was He in heaven also?

40) Mary and Joseph acted with utmost ignorance if the baby Jesus was all of God, for they presented Him to the Lord whe was someone other than Jesus (Lk. 2:22)

41) Simeon had a revelation and guidance from the Holy Spirit that Jesus was not the only member of the Godhead(Lk. 2:26-33)

42) John the Baptist knew the Father, but he did not know the Son (Jn. 1:31-34)

43) The Son died, not the Father (1 Cor. 15:3; 1 Pet. 2:24)

44) Jesus was the only begotten Son of the Father so he could not be the begetter of Himself (Jn. 1:14)

45) Jesus claimed that He could not and did not do any thing of Himself, but that the Father worked through Him(Jn. 5:19, 30; 6:38; 8:28; 12:49-50)

46) He did not come to do His own will but that of the Father who sent Him on. 5:30; 6:38)

47) His doctrine was not His, but the Father's (Jn. 7:16-17; 8:26)

48) He did not speak of Himself, but of the Father who had sent Him (Jn. 7: ji16-18; 8:26-40)

49) He did not please Himself, but the Father (in. 8: 29)

50) He was a son, not a Father over the house of God (In. 8:35-36; Heb. 3:6)

51) He had the same relation to His Father that men have with Satan (Jn. 8:16, 35-44; 9.4)

52) He honored the Father as all men should (Jn. 8:49)

53) He did not seek His own glory, but that of the Father (Jn. 8:50-54; 17:4)

54) He knew the Father, but was not the Father(Jn. 8:55; 10:15)

55) He was loved of the Father as a separate person (Jn. 10:17-18)

56) He kept the Father's commandments and they were not His own (Jn.12:49-50; 15:10)

57) His disciples were given to Him by the Father (Jn 10:29; 17:1-25)

58) He was equal with the Father in some things, but not in others (Mt.13:32;Jn. 5:17-39; 8:13-19, 29-42;19 18- 29; Acts 1:7; 1 Cor. 11:3; Rev. 1:1).

59) He and the Father werein unity and in each other in the same sense believers are to be in unity and in God (Jn.10:38; 14:10-11, 23; 17:11, 21-23)

60) He was the only way to the Father(Jn.15:1; 14:6)

61) He said, I am not alone or the only witness of My sonship. The Father is another witness (Jn.5:36-38; 8:13-19; 12:49-50; 14:10-11)

62) Over 80 times Jesus affirmed that He was not the Father and not the only person in the Godhead. Christ was the speaker, but not the one spoken of or to(Mt. 7:21; 11:27; 18:10, 35;Lk. 2:49; Jn.5:17-43; 8:19-49;10:17-37; 14:7-28; 15:1-26; Rev. 1:1; etc.). Is It any wonder that the Godhead, the Trinity, and the unity of God are so mysterious when we force separate persons to become only one person, all because we do not want to recognize the true meaning of the word one as referring to unity, not to individuality in some scriptures? Men would be just as great a mystery if we forced the meaning of all men to refer to one person

63) He was not as great as His Father(but not in reference to individual natures) (Jn. 10.29; 14:28. cp. with 1 Cor. 11:3)

64) The Father(Mt. 3: 17),Jesus(jn. 10:38), angels(Lk. 1:32-35), demons(Mk.1:14) apostles(Mt. 16:16; Jn. Rom, 8:32; 2 Jn. 3), all declare the sonship of Jesus, but not once do they declare a Christ-fatherhood

65) The Father and the Son spoke to each other in audible voices at the same time and place being heard by many witnesses(Mt. 3:16-17; 17:5; jn. 12:27-30; 2 Pet. 1: 17). In no single instance could such speaking be explained as the voice of one individual or be used to prove one person in the Deity.

66) The word both is used of the Father and the Son, proving two persons Jn. 15:24; 2 jn. 9)

67) The word also is used of the Father and the Son, proving two persons (Jn. 5:19, 27; 8:19; 13:32; 14:1)

68) The statement, "They have not known the Father, NOR ME" proves two persons (Jn. 16:3, 5)

69) Christ received all power in heaven and in earth (Mt. 28:18). Someone had to be greater than He was to give Him that power. Who was it (Jn. 14:28)?

70) Jesus was resurrected and exalted by the Father, so He could not be the Father (Eph.1:20-23; Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 12:2; 1 Pet. 3:22)

71) God made Jesus both Lord and Christ (Acts 2:33-36)

72) Six times in Jn. 14:1-9 Jesus made it clear that He was not the Father Holy Spirit not Jesus or the Father

73) The Holy Spirit is another from both the Father and the Son (Jn. 5:32; 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15)

74) It was necessary that Jesus go away so that the Holy Spirit could come (Jn.16:5-15)

75) He has been seen with the natural eyes as a separate person from the Father and the Son (Mt. 3:16-17; jn. 1:31-34; Rev. 4:5; 5:6)

76) He is symbolized as a separate person with Christ. Both of them before God who sits on a throne (Rev. 1:4-5; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6)

77) He could not be sent from God until Christ was glorified, but would then be sent from both the Father and the Son (in. 7:37-39; Acts 2:33-34)

78) He was sent from the Father to endue Jesus with power, which required three persons the one who sent Him, the one being sent, and the one who received Him (Acts 10:38; Isa. 11:2; 42:1-7; 61:1-2)

79) A clear distinction is made of the names of all three persons (Mt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14; 1 jn. 5:7)

80) A clear distinction is made between the Son who prays, the Father to whom He prays, and the Holy Spirit to for whom He prays (Jn. 14:16)

81) A clear distinction is made between the Son on the right hand of the Father, the Father on the left hand of the Son, and the Holy Ghost who is sent from the Father and the Son(Acts 2:33-36; 7:56; jn. 14:16-17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15)

82) The Son was already given (Jn. 3:16), when the Spirit was not yet given (Jn. 7:39)

83) The son can be blasphemed with forgiveness posslble; but if the Spirit be blasphemed no forgiveness is possible. This proves two distinct persons (Mt.12:31-32; Mk. 3:29-30; Lk. 12:10)

84) The Samaritans received Jesus, but had not yet Holy Ghost (Acts 8:5-25)

85) Jesus could do no miracle by Himself (Jn. 5:19), but by the Holy Ghost He did many miracles (Jn. 2:11; Acts lO:38)

86) The Holy Spirit came not to speak of or glorify Himself, but to speak of and glorify Jesus (Jn. 16:7-15)

87) The descent of the Holy Spirit proved the arrival of Jesus in heaven to sit at the right hand of God, thus proving three persons (Acts 2:33-34; jn. 7:39)

88) Jesus claimed even after the resurrection that He was not a spirit being, so He could not be the Father or the Holy Spirit who are spirit brings (Lk.24:39 Jn. 4:24; 14:16-17. 26; 15:26;
16:7-15)

89) In the last book of the Bible the Trinity is seen as working together in all things (Rev. 1:4-6; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6; 21:10; 22:17)