Saruman....... hetkinen...

Jos todellakin luulette, et Jackson on LEIKANNUT Sarumanin osan leffasta, erehdytte suuresti!!!
Lee ei edes näyttele leffassa!!! Vain Jackson ja Lee tietää syyn... Ja jos luulette, et tää on vaan jonkun teinin päähänpisto, niin erehytte.... Luin sen nimittäin jippii.fi uutisista...
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Jippii ei silloin oikein tiedä mistä puhuu. Sarumanin kohtalo, eli kohta jossa Gandalf ja kumppanit tulevat juttusille Sarumanin kanssa, tämän lymyillessä tornissaan, kuvattiin ja se tulee olemaan extended DVD:llä.

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  • Peter Jacksonin itse kirjoittama juttu:

    We have decided to save the Saruman sequence for the DVD. It's a great little scene. 7 mins long. Chris is wonderful, as usual. Brad is in about 6 shots. It was a film maker decision - nothing to do with the studio.

    The problem is that the sequence was originally shot for The Two Towers, as it is in the book. Since The Two Towers couldn't sustain a 7 min "wrap" after Helm's Deep, we thought it would be a good idea to save it for the beginning of the Return of the King. The trouble is, when we viewed various ROTK cuts over the last few weeks, it feels like the first scenes are wrapping last year's movie, instead of starting the new one. We felt it got ROTK off to an uncertain beginning, since Saruman plays no role in the events of ROTK (we don't have the Scouring later, as the book does), yet we dwell in Isengard for quite a long time before our new story kicks off.

    We reluctantly made the decision to save this sequence for the DVD. The choice was made on the basis that most people will assume that Saruman was vanquished by the Helm's Deep events, and Ent attack. We can now crack straight into setting up the narrative tension of ROTK, which features Sauron as the villian.

    It was a very similar situation to last year when we decided to take a nice Boromir/Denethor flashback out of The Two Towers, and put it in the DVD. It was causing us pacing problems in the theatrical version, but with the Extended Cut just coming out now, fans can see this great little scene. Thank God for DVD, since it does mean that a version of the movie, which has different pacing requirements, can be released later. The Saruman sequence will definately be a highlight of the Extended ROTK DVD.

    We have a lot of great DVD material this time around. As we crafted the movie, we reduced it from an over 4 hour running time, down to 3.12 (without credits - about 8 mins long). This was done by us. There were no studio cutting notes. We now have a movie with a pace that fells ok for it's theatrical release. One more week to go. We are nearly there. Will we still be standing? It's going to be a close run thing.

    Cheers,

    Peter J

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    Peter Jacksonin itse kirjoittama juttu:

    We have decided to save the Saruman sequence for the DVD. It's a great little scene. 7 mins long. Chris is wonderful, as usual. Brad is in about 6 shots. It was a film maker decision - nothing to do with the studio.

    The problem is that the sequence was originally shot for The Two Towers, as it is in the book. Since The Two Towers couldn't sustain a 7 min "wrap" after Helm's Deep, we thought it would be a good idea to save it for the beginning of the Return of the King. The trouble is, when we viewed various ROTK cuts over the last few weeks, it feels like the first scenes are wrapping last year's movie, instead of starting the new one. We felt it got ROTK off to an uncertain beginning, since Saruman plays no role in the events of ROTK (we don't have the Scouring later, as the book does), yet we dwell in Isengard for quite a long time before our new story kicks off.

    We reluctantly made the decision to save this sequence for the DVD. The choice was made on the basis that most people will assume that Saruman was vanquished by the Helm's Deep events, and Ent attack. We can now crack straight into setting up the narrative tension of ROTK, which features Sauron as the villian.

    It was a very similar situation to last year when we decided to take a nice Boromir/Denethor flashback out of The Two Towers, and put it in the DVD. It was causing us pacing problems in the theatrical version, but with the Extended Cut just coming out now, fans can see this great little scene. Thank God for DVD, since it does mean that a version of the movie, which has different pacing requirements, can be released later. The Saruman sequence will definately be a highlight of the Extended ROTK DVD.

    We have a lot of great DVD material this time around. As we crafted the movie, we reduced it from an over 4 hour running time, down to 3.12 (without credits - about 8 mins long). This was done by us. There were no studio cutting notes. We now have a movie with a pace that fells ok for it's theatrical release. One more week to go. We are nearly there. Will we still be standing? It's going to be a close run thing.

    Cheers,

    Peter J

    LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- In "The Fellowship of the Ring," Christopher Lee appeared as the traitorous elder wizard Saruman, whose snowy white beard and robe hid his black-hearted intentions for Middle-earth.

    In "The Two Towers," Saruman watched his power fade as enormous walking trees laid waste to his army of ugly orcs and trapped him in his stone skyscraper.

    The final installment, "The Return of the King," reveals that Saruman is ... well, where is he? Certainly not in the movie.

    All of the 81-year-old Lee's closing scenes were cut from "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy, a move that has angered thousands of hard-core fans and may confuse the casual moviegoer who wonders why one of the story's main villains has simply disappeared.

    In the books by J.R.R. Tolkien, Saruman escapes his tower and overtakes the Shire, a peaceful Hobbit homestead. His death comes at the end of the books when Frodo and company try to eject him from their village.

    That particular subplot was never filmed by Jackson. Instead, he shot an alternate climax for the wicked wizard character that he intended to place at the end of "The Two Towers."

    But that didn't work out either.

    "It seemed like an anticlimax," Jackson said. After that film's elaborate battle sequence in the mountain stronghold of Helm's Deep, the director said he felt audiences would want "to finish that film off as quickly as we could."

    'It didn't work'
    The seven-minute sequence that ends Saruman's story line was held for use near the beginning of "The Return of the King."

    "As it is, it didn't work in the theatrical cut of 'Return of the King' either, because it felt like we were finishing off last year's movie instead of jumping in and setting up the tension for the new film," Jackson said.

    Instead, the characters mention perfunctorily that Saruman is powerless -- then they move on to the rest of the story.


    Filmmaker Peter Jackson tried to fit Saruman's scenes in the new film, but they "didn't work," he says.
    That explanation hasn't satisfied many fans. An Internet petition asking Jackson to reinstate the Saruman footage has gathered more than 40,000 signatures.

    "I believe this cut will hurt 'The Return of the King,' " wrote petition founder Matt Shuster. "Please Peter Jackson, at least consider putting this scene back into the theatrical version, and give us Saruman fans/haters some much needed closure."

    Shuster has since posted an addendum, acknowledging it was too late to change the film. "Signing the petition now will only serve to breed ill will against the filmmakers and that is not my intent."

    Jackson promised fans that the sequence would be included in the extended DVD edition of "The Return of the King," which is expected to be released next fall.

    "It will ultimately take its place as part of the greater package," Jackson said. "The scene is perfectly fine. Christopher is good in the scene and there's nothing wrong with it."

    'At least it is not lost'
    Lee, who also plays the villain Count Dooku in last year's "Star Wars: Episode II -- Attack of the Clones," has appeared in about 250 movies. The 6-foot-4 actor is best known for his suave, calculating evildoers in the Hammer horror films of the 1960s, and is ranked along with Bela Lugosi among the actors most remembered for playing Count Dracula.

    The scene is perfectly fine. Christopher is good in the scene and there's nothing wrong with it.
    -- Peter Jackson


    The British actor did not respond to a request for comment on his cut scenes, but he told Britain's ITV-1 last month he was dismayed by Jackson's decision. "Of course I am very shocked, that's all I can say," he said, citing confidentiality agreements that required him to hold his tongue.

    Lee, who was an acquaintance of Tolkien's, has said he has read the trilogy every year for the past five decades.

    Ian McKellen, who as the good wizard Gandalf had magical duel with Saruman in "Fellowship," said he doubted that Lee had any lingering hurt feelings.

    "It would have been nice to see Saruman dealt with, wouldn't it," McKellen said. "He hasn't told me there was a problem. I can't imagine that a man who has made as many movies as Christopher is surprised that sometimes what you've shot doesn't make it into the final movie.

    "At least it is not lost," McKellen added, smiling. "It will be there on the DVD, and people will be able to say to Peter, 'You should have put it into the movie!' "

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  • Saruman kirjoitti:

    LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- In "The Fellowship of the Ring," Christopher Lee appeared as the traitorous elder wizard Saruman, whose snowy white beard and robe hid his black-hearted intentions for Middle-earth.

    In "The Two Towers," Saruman watched his power fade as enormous walking trees laid waste to his army of ugly orcs and trapped him in his stone skyscraper.

    The final installment, "The Return of the King," reveals that Saruman is ... well, where is he? Certainly not in the movie.

    All of the 81-year-old Lee's closing scenes were cut from "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy, a move that has angered thousands of hard-core fans and may confuse the casual moviegoer who wonders why one of the story's main villains has simply disappeared.

    In the books by J.R.R. Tolkien, Saruman escapes his tower and overtakes the Shire, a peaceful Hobbit homestead. His death comes at the end of the books when Frodo and company try to eject him from their village.

    That particular subplot was never filmed by Jackson. Instead, he shot an alternate climax for the wicked wizard character that he intended to place at the end of "The Two Towers."

    But that didn't work out either.

    "It seemed like an anticlimax," Jackson said. After that film's elaborate battle sequence in the mountain stronghold of Helm's Deep, the director said he felt audiences would want "to finish that film off as quickly as we could."

    'It didn't work'
    The seven-minute sequence that ends Saruman's story line was held for use near the beginning of "The Return of the King."

    "As it is, it didn't work in the theatrical cut of 'Return of the King' either, because it felt like we were finishing off last year's movie instead of jumping in and setting up the tension for the new film," Jackson said.

    Instead, the characters mention perfunctorily that Saruman is powerless -- then they move on to the rest of the story.


    Filmmaker Peter Jackson tried to fit Saruman's scenes in the new film, but they "didn't work," he says.
    That explanation hasn't satisfied many fans. An Internet petition asking Jackson to reinstate the Saruman footage has gathered more than 40,000 signatures.

    "I believe this cut will hurt 'The Return of the King,' " wrote petition founder Matt Shuster. "Please Peter Jackson, at least consider putting this scene back into the theatrical version, and give us Saruman fans/haters some much needed closure."

    Shuster has since posted an addendum, acknowledging it was too late to change the film. "Signing the petition now will only serve to breed ill will against the filmmakers and that is not my intent."

    Jackson promised fans that the sequence would be included in the extended DVD edition of "The Return of the King," which is expected to be released next fall.

    "It will ultimately take its place as part of the greater package," Jackson said. "The scene is perfectly fine. Christopher is good in the scene and there's nothing wrong with it."

    'At least it is not lost'
    Lee, who also plays the villain Count Dooku in last year's "Star Wars: Episode II -- Attack of the Clones," has appeared in about 250 movies. The 6-foot-4 actor is best known for his suave, calculating evildoers in the Hammer horror films of the 1960s, and is ranked along with Bela Lugosi among the actors most remembered for playing Count Dracula.

    The scene is perfectly fine. Christopher is good in the scene and there's nothing wrong with it.
    -- Peter Jackson


    The British actor did not respond to a request for comment on his cut scenes, but he told Britain's ITV-1 last month he was dismayed by Jackson's decision. "Of course I am very shocked, that's all I can say," he said, citing confidentiality agreements that required him to hold his tongue.

    Lee, who was an acquaintance of Tolkien's, has said he has read the trilogy every year for the past five decades.

    Ian McKellen, who as the good wizard Gandalf had magical duel with Saruman in "Fellowship," said he doubted that Lee had any lingering hurt feelings.

    "It would have been nice to see Saruman dealt with, wouldn't it," McKellen said. "He hasn't told me there was a problem. I can't imagine that a man who has made as many movies as Christopher is surprised that sometimes what you've shot doesn't make it into the final movie.

    "At least it is not lost," McKellen added, smiling. "It will be there on the DVD, and people will be able to say to Peter, 'You should have put it into the movie!' "

    Voit ihan hyvin kirjottaa ton omasta päästäs.....

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  • Periannath kirjoitti:

    Voit ihan hyvin kirjottaa ton omasta päästäs.....

    Ai että se on keksinyt omasta päästään usean sivun pituisen englanninkielisen artikkelin? Hyvää päättelyä.

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    Ai että se on keksinyt omasta päästään usean sivun pituisen englanninkielisen artikkelin? Hyvää päättelyä.

    Kyllä useansivun englanninkielisen artikkelin voi hyvinkin keksiä päästään, mutta eiköhän se asia nyt ole kuitenkin pääasiassa niin, että Saruman pätkät lisätään kolmosen dvd:lle ja ne kyllä ovat olemassa... Eivätkä nämä artikkelit nyt ole ne ainoat tietolähteet....

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Periannath kirjoitti:

Jos todellakin luulette, et Jackson on LEIKANNUT Sarumanin osan leffasta, erehdytte suuresti!!!
Lee ei edes näyttele leffassa!!! Vain Jackson ja Lee tietää syyn... Ja jos luulette, et tää on vaan jonkun teinin päähänpisto, niin erehytte.... Luin sen nimittäin jippii.fi uutisista...

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