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>Miksi muuten kun muslimimies kuolee hän pääsee paratiisiin
>jossa 72 neitsyttä odottaa...

Missä Koraanissa kirjoittaa että '72 neitsyttä odottaa?!'
(Sama kysymys on lähetetty tomittaja Hanna Vesalallekin. Koska hänellä oli artikeeli, Iltasanomatilla/ 28.1.2004, sivu 14).

Näytät se '72' minulle?

>Miksei musliminainen saa samaa kohtaloa..

Kuka sanoi niin?

Paratiisissa ei ole seksia kuin maailmassa on! Miksi?: Koska, Aatemi ja Eeva olivat Paratiisissa ja heilla ei ollut seksisuhde siella! Kun seksin ajatus on alkanut, Paratiisin elämä on loppunut! He tulivat mailmaan!

Seksi elämä on tässä maailmassa ja se on sukupuolen jatkaminen varten.. Meille tulee partneri(jos haluamme) mutta minkälainen elämä odotaa meidät?Emme tiedä!

Islam on ihmisten uskontoa! Koraani puhuu samana aikana naisille seka miehille!

Quran,33/35:"35. Verily, the Muslims (those who submit to Allâh in Islâm) men and women, the believers men and women (who believe in Islâmic Monotheism), the men and the women who are obedient (to Allâh), the men and women who are truthful (in their speech and deeds), the men and the women who are patient (in performing all the duties which Allâh has ordered and in abstaining from all that Allâh has forbidden), the men and the women who are humble (before their Lord Allâh), the men and the women who give Sadaqât (i.e. Zakât, and alms, etc.), the men and the women who observe Saum (fast) (the obligatory fasting during the month of Ramadân, and the optional Nawâfil fasting), the men and the women who guard their chastity (from illegal sexual acts) and the men and the women who remember Allâh much with their hearts and tongues (while sitting, standing, lying, etc. for more than 300 times extra over the remembrance of Allâh during the five compulsory congregational prayers) or praying extra additional Nawâfil prayers of night in the last part of night, etc.) Allâh has prepared for them forgiveness and a great reward (i.e. Paradise). "

Quran,42/37-38:" And those who avoid the greater sins, and Al-Fawâhish (illegal sexual intercourse, etc.), and when they are angry, they forgive . And those who answer the Call of their Lord [i.e. to believe that He is the only One Lord (Allâh), and to worship none but Him Alone], and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and who (conduct) their affairs by mutual consultation, and who spend of what We have bestowed on them;"

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Yakup kirjoitti:

>Miksi muuten kun muslimimies kuolee hän pääsee paratiisiin
>jossa 72 neitsyttä odottaa...

Missä Koraanissa kirjoittaa että '72 neitsyttä odottaa?!'
(Sama kysymys on lähetetty tomittaja Hanna Vesalallekin. Koska hänellä oli artikeeli, Iltasanomatilla/ 28.1.2004, sivu 14).

Näytät se '72' minulle?

>Miksei musliminainen saa samaa kohtaloa..

Kuka sanoi niin?

Paratiisissa ei ole seksia kuin maailmassa on! Miksi?: Koska, Aatemi ja Eeva olivat Paratiisissa ja heilla ei ollut seksisuhde siella! Kun seksin ajatus on alkanut, Paratiisin elämä on loppunut! He tulivat mailmaan!

Seksi elämä on tässä maailmassa ja se on sukupuolen jatkaminen varten.. Meille tulee partneri(jos haluamme) mutta minkälainen elämä odotaa meidät?Emme tiedä!

Islam on ihmisten uskontoa! Koraani puhuu samana aikana naisille seka miehille!

Quran,33/35:"35. Verily, the Muslims (those who submit to Allâh in Islâm) men and women, the believers men and women (who believe in Islâmic Monotheism), the men and the women who are obedient (to Allâh), the men and women who are truthful (in their speech and deeds), the men and the women who are patient (in performing all the duties which Allâh has ordered and in abstaining from all that Allâh has forbidden), the men and the women who are humble (before their Lord Allâh), the men and the women who give Sadaqât (i.e. Zakât, and alms, etc.), the men and the women who observe Saum (fast) (the obligatory fasting during the month of Ramadân, and the optional Nawâfil fasting), the men and the women who guard their chastity (from illegal sexual acts) and the men and the women who remember Allâh much with their hearts and tongues (while sitting, standing, lying, etc. for more than 300 times extra over the remembrance of Allâh during the five compulsory congregational prayers) or praying extra additional Nawâfil prayers of night in the last part of night, etc.) Allâh has prepared for them forgiveness and a great reward (i.e. Paradise). "

Quran,42/37-38:" And those who avoid the greater sins, and Al-Fawâhish (illegal sexual intercourse, etc.), and when they are angry, they forgive . And those who answer the Call of their Lord [i.e. to believe that He is the only One Lord (Allâh), and to worship none but Him Alone], and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and who (conduct) their affairs by mutual consultation, and who spend of what We have bestowed on them;"

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Miksi valehtelet tältä osin??
Muslimifasistien mukaan jokaista jihadissa mm kuollutta "muslimisotilasta" odottaa 72 neitsyttä..

Miksi valehtelet kieltämällä tämänkin ??

Samoin valehtelet itsellesi kieltämällä muslimimaissa suoritettavat raat teot ihmisoikeuksia ja naisten oikeuksia vastaan!!

onhan siitä ollut todisteita mm TV:ssäkin..
Naisten teloituksia etc..

Kyllä islam on todella sisäistä pahoinvointia luova pimeyden uskonto jota sinäkin koet..

Observer kirjoitti:

Miksi valehtelet tältä osin??
Muslimifasistien mukaan jokaista jihadissa mm kuollutta "muslimisotilasta" odottaa 72 neitsyttä..

Miksi valehtelet kieltämällä tämänkin ??

Samoin valehtelet itsellesi kieltämällä muslimimaissa suoritettavat raat teot ihmisoikeuksia ja naisten oikeuksia vastaan!!

onhan siitä ollut todisteita mm TV:ssäkin..
Naisten teloituksia etc..

Kyllä islam on todella sisäistä pahoinvointia luova pimeyden uskonto jota sinäkin koet..

"Kirjoittanut: Observer, 4.2.2004 klo 18.48

Miksi valehtelet tältä osin??

odottaa 72 neitsyttä.. "

näyttä missa se on?


http://www.kuran.gen.tr/html/fince/

on erityisiä klinikoita, joissa kyetään tekemään kohtuullista korvausta vastaan vaikka kymmenen lasta synnyttäneestä naisesta (melkein) ehta neitsyt. Niistä ne neitsyet tilataan.

bilo kirjoitti:

"Kirjoittanut: Observer, 4.2.2004 klo 18.48

Miksi valehtelet tältä osin??

odottaa 72 neitsyttä.. "

näyttä missa se on?


http://www.kuran.gen.tr/html/fince/

löytyy häditheistä eli sunnasta eli profeetta muhammadin perimätiedosta.

Jos hädith ei kuulu islamiin, kaikki ok.

Yakup kirjoitti:

>Miksi muuten kun muslimimies kuolee hän pääsee paratiisiin
>jossa 72 neitsyttä odottaa...

Missä Koraanissa kirjoittaa että '72 neitsyttä odottaa?!'
(Sama kysymys on lähetetty tomittaja Hanna Vesalallekin. Koska hänellä oli artikeeli, Iltasanomatilla/ 28.1.2004, sivu 14).

Näytät se '72' minulle?

>Miksei musliminainen saa samaa kohtaloa..

Kuka sanoi niin?

Paratiisissa ei ole seksia kuin maailmassa on! Miksi?: Koska, Aatemi ja Eeva olivat Paratiisissa ja heilla ei ollut seksisuhde siella! Kun seksin ajatus on alkanut, Paratiisin elämä on loppunut! He tulivat mailmaan!

Seksi elämä on tässä maailmassa ja se on sukupuolen jatkaminen varten.. Meille tulee partneri(jos haluamme) mutta minkälainen elämä odotaa meidät?Emme tiedä!

Islam on ihmisten uskontoa! Koraani puhuu samana aikana naisille seka miehille!

Quran,33/35:"35. Verily, the Muslims (those who submit to Allâh in Islâm) men and women, the believers men and women (who believe in Islâmic Monotheism), the men and the women who are obedient (to Allâh), the men and women who are truthful (in their speech and deeds), the men and the women who are patient (in performing all the duties which Allâh has ordered and in abstaining from all that Allâh has forbidden), the men and the women who are humble (before their Lord Allâh), the men and the women who give Sadaqât (i.e. Zakât, and alms, etc.), the men and the women who observe Saum (fast) (the obligatory fasting during the month of Ramadân, and the optional Nawâfil fasting), the men and the women who guard their chastity (from illegal sexual acts) and the men and the women who remember Allâh much with their hearts and tongues (while sitting, standing, lying, etc. for more than 300 times extra over the remembrance of Allâh during the five compulsory congregational prayers) or praying extra additional Nawâfil prayers of night in the last part of night, etc.) Allâh has prepared for them forgiveness and a great reward (i.e. Paradise). "

Quran,42/37-38:" And those who avoid the greater sins, and Al-Fawâhish (illegal sexual intercourse, etc.), and when they are angry, they forgive . And those who answer the Call of their Lord [i.e. to believe that He is the only One Lord (Allâh), and to worship none but Him Alone], and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and who (conduct) their affairs by mutual consultation, and who spend of what We have bestowed on them;"

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En tiedä lupaako Koraani miehelle 72 neitsyttä. Sen olen lukenut, että nämä islamin pikkujumalat ovat paratiisipaikkoja jakaessaan itsemurhakandidaateille tällaisia lupailleet.

Saattavat puhua tottakin. 72 neitsyttä paikassa, jossa ei ole seksielämää, sehän on miehelle HELVETTI!!!
Nyt tajuan tämän pikkujumalien juonen.

Aabraham kirjoitti:

on erityisiä klinikoita, joissa kyetään tekemään kohtuullista korvausta vastaan vaikka kymmenen lasta synnyttäneestä naisesta (melkein) ehta neitsyt. Niistä ne neitsyet tilataan.

viittaavat:
Ennen pitkää Aabraham tunnustaa olevansa muslimi.

Aabraham kirjoitti:

on erityisiä klinikoita, joissa kyetään tekemään kohtuullista korvausta vastaan vaikka kymmenen lasta synnyttäneestä naisesta (melkein) ehta neitsyt. Niistä ne neitsyet tilataan.

17/37



Aloitan JUMALAN, laupiaan Armahtajan, nimeen.




37. Älä kulje maan päällä kerskaillen. Totisesti, sinä et kykene leikkaamaan maata kahtia etkä kurkottautumaan vuorten huipuille.

;D ;D ;P kirjoitti:

viittaavat:
Ennen pitkää Aabraham tunnustaa olevansa muslimi.

tai eipä sentään ihan vielä.

Kiäh kiäh.

Observer kirjoitti:

Miksi valehtelet tältä osin??
Muslimifasistien mukaan jokaista jihadissa mm kuollutta "muslimisotilasta" odottaa 72 neitsyttä..

Miksi valehtelet kieltämällä tämänkin ??

Samoin valehtelet itsellesi kieltämällä muslimimaissa suoritettavat raat teot ihmisoikeuksia ja naisten oikeuksia vastaan!!

onhan siitä ollut todisteita mm TV:ssäkin..
Naisten teloituksia etc..

Kyllä islam on todella sisäistä pahoinvointia luova pimeyden uskonto jota sinäkin koet..

>Muslimifasistien mukaan jokaista jihadissa mm kuollutta "muslimisotilasta" odottaa 72 neitsyttä..

Se ei ole Koraanissa.. Se on ihmisten oma ajatus kuin tässä näemme:

http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=1000000000000003&conference=1000000000000010&posting=22000000002224866

Turkkilaiset sanaovat että "Nälkainen kana aina uneksii vehnävarastossa"!
72 asia ei ole Koraanin asia ja Paratiisissa ei ole seksi elämä kuin maailmassa on..
Ja Jumala antoi Paratiisissa Aatemille yksi vaimoa, ei kaksi!

Sanot "Muslimifasistien mukaan "!

Koraanin mukaan olet muslimi taia ei.. Koraani kieltää teidän sanasi!

Minä en ole 'Muhammedian'! Olen muslimi..

Luulen että leut tämä taas:
http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=1000000000000003&conference=1000000000000010&posting=22000000002261362

Oeln aina naisten oikeusen puolella ja tässäkin näet että Koraani on antanut nasielle oikeukset 600-luvulla:
http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=1000000000000003&conference=1000000000000010&posting=22000000002226680

"Etsivä löytää" kuin Jeesus sanoi.

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Pölkky savosta kirjoitti:

En tiedä lupaako Koraani miehelle 72 neitsyttä. Sen olen lukenut, että nämä islamin pikkujumalat ovat paratiisipaikkoja jakaessaan itsemurhakandidaateille tällaisia lupailleet.

Saattavat puhua tottakin. 72 neitsyttä paikassa, jossa ei ole seksielämää, sehän on miehelle HELVETTI!!!
Nyt tajuan tämän pikkujumalien juonen.

>En tiedä lupaako Koraani miehelle 72 neitsyttä.

Ei!

>jossa ei ole seksielämää, sehän on miehelle HELVETTI!!!

entä naisille? :=)

Siellä on rakkaus!

Koraanin mukaan, naisetkin saavatat partneri Paratiisissa!

Aabraham kirjoitti:

on erityisiä klinikoita, joissa kyetään tekemään kohtuullista korvausta vastaan vaikka kymmenen lasta synnyttäneestä naisesta (melkein) ehta neitsyt. Niistä ne neitsyet tilataan.

tytötkin tekevät sen!

Raamattu, Kolmas Mooseksen Kirja 21/9:
”Jos papin tytär häpäisee itsensä harjoittamalla haureutta, hän samalla häpäisee isänsä; siksi hänet on poltettava.”

Bysantti kirjoitti:

löytyy häditheistä eli sunnasta eli profeetta muhammadin perimätiedosta.

Jos hädith ei kuulu islamiin, kaikki ok.

>Jos hädith ei kuulu islamiin, kaikki ok.

Jos hadith on tämmönen, varmasti ei kuuluu Islamiin!
http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=1000000000000003&conference=1000000000000010&posting=22000000002224866

Muslimi kuuntelee ensikis mitä Koraani halua!

kirjoitit juuri MUSLIMIEN RITUAALITEURASTUKSISTA???????? SIIS MUSLIMEJA TEURASTETAAN.MUSLIMIT TEURASTAA MUSLIMEJA VAI MITÄ.

Yakup kirjoitti:

>Jos hädith ei kuulu islamiin, kaikki ok.

Jos hadith on tämmönen, varmasti ei kuuluu Islamiin!
http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=1000000000000003&conference=1000000000000010&posting=22000000002224866

Muslimi kuuntelee ensikis mitä Koraani halua!

>Jos hadith on tämmönen, varmasti ei kuuluu Islamiin!

Tottakai kuuluu, vaikka yksi Yakup muuta väittäisikin.

Olet muuten rohkea. Uskallat väittää Muhammadia vastaan, mikä kuuluu islamiin ja mikä ei. Siitä on luvassa capital punishment!!!


Definition of an Apostate

The Holy Quran states:

They will not stop fighting you until they turn you back from your faith, if they can. The works of those from among you who turn back from their faith and die in a state of disbelief shall be vain in this world and the next. These are the inmates of the fire, therin shall they abide. (2. 218)

This means that whoever, out of fear of the sword (or the pain of punishment), decides to abjure Islam has a fundamental right to do so but no one else has the right to declare him to be an apostate. The right to declare himself to bean apostate lies only with him. Nowhere in the Holy Quran has this right been granted to others. That is to say, one is free to renounce one’s own religion but has no right to impose renunciation of religion on others. According to Islamic teachings, an apostate, therefore, cannot be manufactured by religious scholars or the clergy or any non-tolerant individual or government.

The Holy Quran also states: ‘Surely, those who have turned away after guidance has been made manifest to them have been deceived by Satan who has beguiled them with false hopes.’ (47.26)

Other Verses from the Holy Quran on Apostasy

The Holy Quran says:

O ye who believe, whoso from among you turns back from his religion let him remember that in place of such a person, Allah will soon bring a people whom He will love and who will love Him, who will be kind and considerate towards the believers and firm and unyielding towards the disbelievers. They will strive hard in the cause of Allah and will not at all take to heart the reproaches of fault finders. That is Allah’s grace; He bestows it upon whosoever He pleases. Allah is the Lord of vast bounty, All-Knowing. (5.55)

Whoso disbelieves in Allah after he has believed, excepting the case of one who is forced to make a declaration of disbelief while his heart rests securely in faith, but one who opens his mind wide to disbelief; on him is Allah’s wrath and he shall have a grievous punishment. (16.107)

Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve and thereafter go on increasing in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them, nor guide them to any way of deliverance. (4.138)

Muhammad is but a Messenger; of a surety, all Messengers before him have passed away. If then, he dies or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? He who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah a whit. Allah will certainly reward the grateful. (3.145)

No corporal punishment can be understood to have been mentioned by any stretch of imagination in the foregoing passages from the Holy Quran.

Surah Al-Tauba

In a desperate search for at least one verse in the Holy Quran which might lend support for death as a Punishment for Apostasy, recourse has been made to verses 12 and 13 of Chapter 9 (Surah AI-Tauba). We quote below verses 3–14 of that chapter. These speak for themselves and defy all attempts on the part of anyone who would have them understood differently:

3. This is a public proclamation on the pan of Allah and His Messenger on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, that Allah is free of all obligation to the idolaters, and so is His Messenger. So now, having witnessed this Sign, if you will repent and make peace, it wilt be better for you; but if you hum away, then know that you cannot frustrate Allah’s design. Warn the disbelievers of a painful chastisement.

4. Excepting those of them with whom you have a pact and who have not defaulted in any respect, nor supported anyone against you. Carry out the obligations you have assumed towards them till the end of their terms. Surely, Allah loves those who are mindful of their obligations.

5. When the period of four months during which hostilities are suspended expires, without the idolaters having settled the terms of peace with you, resume fighting with them and kill them wherever you find them and make them prisoners and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. Then if they repent and observe prayers and pay the zakat, leave them alone. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Ever Merciful.

6. If any one of the idolaters seeks asylum with thee, grant him asylum so that he may hear the Word of Allah; then convey him to a place of security for him, for they are a people who lack knowledge.

7. How could there be a guarantee for the idolaters on the part of Allah and His Messenger, except in favor of those with whom you entered into an express treaty at the Sacred Mosque? So long as they carry out their obligations the reunder, you must carry out your obligations. Surely, Allah loves those who are mindful of their obligations.

8. How can there be a guarantee for the others who, if they were to prevail against you, would have no regard for any tie of kinship or pact in respect of you. They seek to please you with words, while their hearts repudiate them; most of them are perfidious.

9. They have bartered the Sign of Allah for small gains and hindered people from His way. Evil indeed is that which they have done.

10. They show no regard for any tie of kinship or any pact in respect of a believer. It is they who are the transgressors.

11. If they repent and observe prayer and pay the zakat, then they are your brethren in faith. We expound our commandments for a people who know.

12. But if they break faith after pledging it and ridicule your religion, then fight these leaders of disbelief that they may desist, for they have no regard for their pledged word.

13. Will you not fight a people who have violated their oaths, who plotted to turn out the Messenger from his home, and who were the first to start hostilities against you? Do you fear them? It is Allah Who is Most Worthy that you should fear Him, if you are believers.

14. Fight them: Allah will punish them at your hands, and will humiliate them, and will help you to overcome them, and will relieve the minds of the believers of fear and distress.

Those who deduce from verses 12 and 13 that the Punishment for Apostasy is death offer no explanation of the contradiction this creates with numerous other verses. These verses relate to the period after the migration from Mecca to Medina (see verse 3) when the Quraish of Mecca had embarked upon hostilities to wipe out Islam by force.

The advocates of capital Punishment for Apostasy should remember that these verses refer to idolaters who have broken their pledges and ridicule religion; there is no mention of people renouncing their faith. They have broken their pledge after their firm commitment to it. Those who have become hostile to your religion are the first to initiate hostilities against you. The permission for you to fight them is restricted to their leaders whose covenants are worthless and false. The permission is given in order to stop them from entering into hostile acts against you.

This is the true meaning of these verses which have been misconstrued by the advocates of capital punishment. There is not even the remotest reference to people who renounce their faith being forced to become Muslims. The same people are discussed in another part of the Holy Quran:

It may be that Allah will bring about amity between you and those with whom you are at enmity. Allah has the power; Allah is Most Forgiving, Ever Merciful. Allah does not forbid you to be kind and act equitably towards those who have not fought you because of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are equitable. Allah only forbids you that you make friends with those who have fought against you because of your religion and have driven you out of your homes and have aided others in driving you out. Whoso makes friends with them, those are the transgressors. (60.8–10)


http://www.alislam.org/library/books/mna/chapter_7.html

Bysantti kirjoitti:

>Jos hadith on tämmönen, varmasti ei kuuluu Islamiin!

Tottakai kuuluu, vaikka yksi Yakup muuta väittäisikin.

Olet muuten rohkea. Uskallat väittää Muhammadia vastaan, mikä kuuluu islamiin ja mikä ei. Siitä on luvassa capital punishment!!!


Definition of an Apostate

The Holy Quran states:

They will not stop fighting you until they turn you back from your faith, if they can. The works of those from among you who turn back from their faith and die in a state of disbelief shall be vain in this world and the next. These are the inmates of the fire, therin shall they abide. (2. 218)

This means that whoever, out of fear of the sword (or the pain of punishment), decides to abjure Islam has a fundamental right to do so but no one else has the right to declare him to be an apostate. The right to declare himself to bean apostate lies only with him. Nowhere in the Holy Quran has this right been granted to others. That is to say, one is free to renounce one’s own religion but has no right to impose renunciation of religion on others. According to Islamic teachings, an apostate, therefore, cannot be manufactured by religious scholars or the clergy or any non-tolerant individual or government.

The Holy Quran also states: ‘Surely, those who have turned away after guidance has been made manifest to them have been deceived by Satan who has beguiled them with false hopes.’ (47.26)

Other Verses from the Holy Quran on Apostasy

The Holy Quran says:

O ye who believe, whoso from among you turns back from his religion let him remember that in place of such a person, Allah will soon bring a people whom He will love and who will love Him, who will be kind and considerate towards the believers and firm and unyielding towards the disbelievers. They will strive hard in the cause of Allah and will not at all take to heart the reproaches of fault finders. That is Allah’s grace; He bestows it upon whosoever He pleases. Allah is the Lord of vast bounty, All-Knowing. (5.55)

Whoso disbelieves in Allah after he has believed, excepting the case of one who is forced to make a declaration of disbelief while his heart rests securely in faith, but one who opens his mind wide to disbelief; on him is Allah’s wrath and he shall have a grievous punishment. (16.107)

Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve and thereafter go on increasing in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them, nor guide them to any way of deliverance. (4.138)

Muhammad is but a Messenger; of a surety, all Messengers before him have passed away. If then, he dies or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? He who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah a whit. Allah will certainly reward the grateful. (3.145)

No corporal punishment can be understood to have been mentioned by any stretch of imagination in the foregoing passages from the Holy Quran.

Surah Al-Tauba

In a desperate search for at least one verse in the Holy Quran which might lend support for death as a Punishment for Apostasy, recourse has been made to verses 12 and 13 of Chapter 9 (Surah AI-Tauba). We quote below verses 3–14 of that chapter. These speak for themselves and defy all attempts on the part of anyone who would have them understood differently:

3. This is a public proclamation on the pan of Allah and His Messenger on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, that Allah is free of all obligation to the idolaters, and so is His Messenger. So now, having witnessed this Sign, if you will repent and make peace, it wilt be better for you; but if you hum away, then know that you cannot frustrate Allah’s design. Warn the disbelievers of a painful chastisement.

4. Excepting those of them with whom you have a pact and who have not defaulted in any respect, nor supported anyone against you. Carry out the obligations you have assumed towards them till the end of their terms. Surely, Allah loves those who are mindful of their obligations.

5. When the period of four months during which hostilities are suspended expires, without the idolaters having settled the terms of peace with you, resume fighting with them and kill them wherever you find them and make them prisoners and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. Then if they repent and observe prayers and pay the zakat, leave them alone. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Ever Merciful.

6. If any one of the idolaters seeks asylum with thee, grant him asylum so that he may hear the Word of Allah; then convey him to a place of security for him, for they are a people who lack knowledge.

7. How could there be a guarantee for the idolaters on the part of Allah and His Messenger, except in favor of those with whom you entered into an express treaty at the Sacred Mosque? So long as they carry out their obligations the reunder, you must carry out your obligations. Surely, Allah loves those who are mindful of their obligations.

8. How can there be a guarantee for the others who, if they were to prevail against you, would have no regard for any tie of kinship or pact in respect of you. They seek to please you with words, while their hearts repudiate them; most of them are perfidious.

9. They have bartered the Sign of Allah for small gains and hindered people from His way. Evil indeed is that which they have done.

10. They show no regard for any tie of kinship or any pact in respect of a believer. It is they who are the transgressors.

11. If they repent and observe prayer and pay the zakat, then they are your brethren in faith. We expound our commandments for a people who know.

12. But if they break faith after pledging it and ridicule your religion, then fight these leaders of disbelief that they may desist, for they have no regard for their pledged word.

13. Will you not fight a people who have violated their oaths, who plotted to turn out the Messenger from his home, and who were the first to start hostilities against you? Do you fear them? It is Allah Who is Most Worthy that you should fear Him, if you are believers.

14. Fight them: Allah will punish them at your hands, and will humiliate them, and will help you to overcome them, and will relieve the minds of the believers of fear and distress.

Those who deduce from verses 12 and 13 that the Punishment for Apostasy is death offer no explanation of the contradiction this creates with numerous other verses. These verses relate to the period after the migration from Mecca to Medina (see verse 3) when the Quraish of Mecca had embarked upon hostilities to wipe out Islam by force.

The advocates of capital Punishment for Apostasy should remember that these verses refer to idolaters who have broken their pledges and ridicule religion; there is no mention of people renouncing their faith. They have broken their pledge after their firm commitment to it. Those who have become hostile to your religion are the first to initiate hostilities against you. The permission for you to fight them is restricted to their leaders whose covenants are worthless and false. The permission is given in order to stop them from entering into hostile acts against you.

This is the true meaning of these verses which have been misconstrued by the advocates of capital punishment. There is not even the remotest reference to people who renounce their faith being forced to become Muslims. The same people are discussed in another part of the Holy Quran:

It may be that Allah will bring about amity between you and those with whom you are at enmity. Allah has the power; Allah is Most Forgiving, Ever Merciful. Allah does not forbid you to be kind and act equitably towards those who have not fought you because of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are equitable. Allah only forbids you that you make friends with those who have fought against you because of your religion and have driven you out of your homes and have aided others in driving you out. Whoso makes friends with them, those are the transgressors. (60.8–10)


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on Jumalan uskontoa!

Koraani, 2/136: " Sanokaa: 'Me uskomme Jumalaan ja siihen, mikä on ilmoitettu meille ja mikä on ilmoitettu Aabrahamille, Ismaelille, Iisakille ja Jaakobille ja Israelin sukukunnille,.'..

Yakup kirjoitti:

on Jumalan uskontoa!

Koraani, 2/136: " Sanokaa: 'Me uskomme Jumalaan ja siihen, mikä on ilmoitettu meille ja mikä on ilmoitettu Aabrahamille, Ismaelille, Iisakille ja Jaakobille ja Israelin sukukunnille,.'..

piti laittaa jokin suuran pätkä, joka ei liity mitenkään aiheeseen. Ehkäpä toistamalla tuota suuranpätkää aivosi lukitsevat kaiken omatoimisen ajattelun ulkopuolelleen...

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Kirjoittanut: Yakup, 5.2.2004 klo 15.49

on Jumalan uskontoa!

Koraani, 2/136: " Sanokaa: 'Me uskomme Jumalaan ja siihen, mikä on ilmoitettu meille ja mikä on ilmoitettu Aabrahamille, Ismaelille, Iisakille ja Jaakobille ja Israelin sukukunnille,.'..
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Meillä täällä Suomessa on sanonta "Hauki on kala, hauki on kala, hauki on kala...."

Bysantti kirjoitti:

piti laittaa jokin suuran pätkä, joka ei liity mitenkään aiheeseen. Ehkäpä toistamalla tuota suuranpätkää aivosi lukitsevat kaiken omatoimisen ajattelun ulkopuolelleen...

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Islam
Kirjoittanut: Yakup, 5.2.2004 klo 15.49

on Jumalan uskontoa!

Koraani, 2/136: " Sanokaa: 'Me uskomme Jumalaan ja siihen, mikä on ilmoitettu meille ja mikä on ilmoitettu Aabrahamille, Ismaelille, Iisakille ja Jaakobille ja Israelin sukukunnille,.'..
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Meillä täällä Suomessa on sanonta "Hauki on kala, hauki on kala, hauki on kala...."

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tuula kirjoitti:

kirjoitit juuri MUSLIMIEN RITUAALITEURASTUKSISTA???????? SIIS MUSLIMEJA TEURASTETAAN.MUSLIMIT TEURASTAA MUSLIMEJA VAI MITÄ.

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ettet kommentoisi mitään, koska et ymmärrä mitään?

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