666-uutisia

666-uutisia

Californian Sacramentossa pian tullaan asettamaan
kaikkien koiran ja kissan omistajien
velvollisuudeksi mennä asentamaan lemmikkeihinsä
(ihon sisälle) pieni mikrosiru. Liitin alle
alkuperäisen uutisen. En voi olla ajattelematta
että kuinka kauan vielä kestää että
tämänkaltainen siru (joka oli vielä muutama vuosi
sitten täysin naurun aihe) tullaan asentamaan
ihmisiin, luultavasti "ihmisten oman
turvallisuuden vuoksi". Se on jo tiedossa että
ainoat paikat ihmiselle johon voidaan asentaa
jonkinlainen mikrosiru ovat oikea käsi ja otsa.
Anteeksi vain nyt kun tälläisiä älyttömyyksiä
vihjailen, mutta eikös tästä joku jo tainnut
puhua n. 2000 vuotta sitten kirjassa nimeltä
Raamattu?.."On aika nauraa, on aika itkeä" taisi
sanoa Salomonkin. Nyt on uskottomien aika
naureskelle, ja uskovaisten itkeä, mutta pian
roolit tulevat muuttumaan. Nyt on tässä
maailmassa todentotta suru ja itku kristityille,
uusi tutkimus osoittaa että PELKÄSTÄÄN tänä
vuonna tullaan teloittamaan kristittyjä uskonsa
takia, kuin koskaan ikinä ennen yhteensä.
Aikamoisen hätkähdyttävää, mutta jumalattomat
senkun vaan porskuttavat..Lukekaa allaoleva
uutinen (erityisesti viimeinen kappale) ja
pelastakaa itsenne Jeesuksen avulla, muuta tapaa
ei ole.


Maitoa:

"'Dog tag' gets whole new meaning
Posted Thursday, April 12, 2001
Source:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a
sp?ARTICLE_ID=22366

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Pet owners in California
will soon be required to place a microchip in
every dog and cat they sell, as well as obtain a
permit for each animal to be sold, if a bill in
the state legislature becomes law.

Senate Bill 236 by Sen. Jack O'Connell, D-Santa
Barbara, would require anyone who wants to sell a
dog or cat under 1-year-old to obtain a permit
for an unspecified fee per animal from the local
animal services agency. The permit would need to
be obtained before advertising any such sale, and
all ads would have to include the permit number.

Additionally, the bill provides that every time a
dog or cat is sold in California, regardless of
the animal's age, it must be "microchipped" and
the owner's identification entered into a local
or national registry. And every time ownership of
the animal is transferred, the new owner's
information must be reported to the registry.
Local officials would be charged with maintaining
records regarding the number and type of dogs and
cats sold, and the records would be open to the
public, excluding owner- and former owner-contact
information.

The bill is sponsored by Richard McLellan, M.D.,
of the Animal Legislative Action Network, a
political action committee that supports animal-
rights proposals.

"When an animal is first sold from a breeder into
a new home, there's usually a way of finding out
who that original owner was. After that, if
becomes much less easy to follow these animals,"
said McLellan about the microchipping
requirement. "We identify all sorts of things in
our society for a number of reasons. We put
serial numbers on VCRs and toasters," but there
is no permanent identification marker for pets.
The bill would help create a paper or electronic
trail for animals.

While the bill does not specify which
manufacturer's microchips are to be used, one of
the most recent of such devices to enter the
market is Applied Digital Solutions' Digital
Angel®. As reported by WorldNetDaily, Digital
Angel® isn't just for pets. Unlike its microchip
ancestors, which were intended for animal
identification and location only, Digital Angel®
is intended for human use and can monitor vital
physical functions such as heart rate and body
temperature. Microchips are implanted under the
skin of the person or animal."


Ne jotka jaksoivat loppuun asti, kevennystä
heille, uskon kevyttä leipää:



"Faith: Historians say Resurrection a reality

Posted Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Source:http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?
QID=176324

Faith: Historians say Resurrection a reality
By UWE SIEMON-NETTO, UPI Religion correspondent

WASHINGTON, April 11 (UPI) - "If Christ is not
risen, then our preaching
is empty and our faith is also empty," the
Apostle Paul wrote only a few
years after the Crucifixion (1 Corinthians 15:14).

The Resurrection narrative in all four gospels is
the one story on which
all Christian hope is fixed. Is it a ruse? Was it
the figment of the scared
disciples' hysterical imagination that Jesus
appeared to them after his
execution?

The late Pinchas Lapide, a Jewish New Testament
scholar, considers this
suggestion of 19th and early 20th-century liberal
theologians preposterous:

"This band of disciples was beaten and weary. Yet
almost overnight it
transformed itself into a victorious faith
movement," he wrote.

"If this had occurred simply on the basis of auto-
suggestion and
self-deceit, it would have been a much greater
miracle than the Resurrection
itself."

In a dramatic turnaround from post-Enlightenment
skepticism, historians
are now inclined to give much more credence to
the New Testament accounts of
the Resurrection than their predecessors.

"There is so much evidence pointing to its
veracity," wrote professor
Juergen Spiess of Marburg University in IDEA, a
German Protestant news
service.

According to Spiess and several other historians,
Christ was probably
crucified on April 7 of the year 30. If this is
so, the Resurrection
occurred on April 9, a Sunday.

There have always been doubters claiming that
Jesus never died on the
cross. Mohammed denied it. But the Biblical
passion stories are backed up by
at least one irreproachable secular source:

The Roman historian Tacitus (55-120 A.D.) wrote
that the "founder of this
sect (the Christians) was executed during the
reign of (emperor) Tiberius by
the Governor Pontius Pilate" (Tacitus, annals
XV). "This corroborates
Scripture," Spiess explained.

"Historians work like lawyers," he
continued, "They reconstruct past
events on the basis of sources, evidence and
eyewitness accounts."

Helga Botermann, a professor at Goettingen
University, has shown that in
researching the Good Friday and Easter events,
the evangelist Luke followed
the same methodology used by modern historians.

Luke, a Greek physician, "endeavored to present
the facts as they had
happened. He used eyewitness accounts and -- in
the Book of Acts -- his own
recollections."

Botermann went on to state, "Luke wrote for his
contemporaries, who were
capable of judging his account of these facts
with which they were familiar
either from their own experience or the reports
of others.

"Thus there is no justifiable reason to approach
his rendering of history
with prejudicial skepticism ... Luke's sources
were also his critics. This
makes it very unlikely that he embellished his
story willfully with his own
prejudices or intentions."

Spiess sees Christ's empty grave as a key piece
of evidence for the
veracity of the Resurrection story. Here he
agrees with William Lane Craig,
arguably one of America's finest Christian
apologists.

In an article published in Truth Journal, Lane
pointed out that even "the
earliest Jewish polemic presupposed the empty
tomb." It simply interpreted
this phenomenon differently.

"In Matthew 28, we find the Christian attempt to
refute (this)," Craig
wrote. "That polemic asserted that the disciples
stole away the body. The
Christians responded ... by reciting the story of
a guard at the tomb, and
the polemic in turn charged that the guard fell
asleep."

The long and the short of this dispute is,
though, that both sides
provided evidence for the empty tomb, Craig said.

Pinchas Lapide, the Jewish scholar, added another
point favoring the
Resurrection account. The first people to find
the grave empty and encounter
the risen Christ were women.

But women had such a low standing in Hebrew
society at that time that
their testimony would not have even been
considered in court. Hence, Lapide
reasoned that anybody trying to fake a story in
1st-century Palestine would
hardly have presented women as his prime
witnesses.

Another argument against the Resurrection
narrative survived in multiple
variations for almost 2,000 years and was eagerly
picked up by rationalist
German scholars of the late 18th and 19th
centuries."


Ja hieman lisää leipää..

"Is He risen?

Posted Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Source:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a
sp?ARTICLE_ID=22374

Simon Greenleaf, who was head of the Harvard Law
School for some 30 years, was once challenged by
his students to apply his "Laws of Legal
Evidence" (which are still a standard reference
for courts today) to an investigation of the
resurrection of Jesus Christ.

After a thorough study, Greenleaf concluded that
Jesus' resurrection was supported by better and
fuller evidence than any other event of
antiquity. He wrote a book on his investigation
called "The Testimony of The Four Evangelists,"
which is still available in most University legal
libraries.

It is a recognized fact that the validity of
Christianity stands or falls with whether Jesus
Christ came out of his tomb bodily alive three
days after his death.

This is not something that Jesus' followers set
up -- Jesus himself threw down this gauntlet in
front of his most dedicated enemies. Jesus,
unlike any other religious leader in history,
staked the validity of everything he taught,
lived and died for on the single condition that
he would rise from the dead bodily on the third
day. He bet it all on that one proposition. This,
more than any other factor, makes him unique
among all other religious founders.

One of the first evidences to consider is whether
the written accounts of the resurrection can be
trusted. The very animosity of the religious
leaders, who forced his execution, is one reason
we can trust that they are true. We know that
this message about Jesus' resurrection was
preached in the streets of Jerusalem within a
couple weeks of his death. The religious leaders
had every motive to produce evidence to disprove
their claims. They could have easily ended the
claim either by producing his body, or the bodies
of his followers who were killed stealing Jesus'
body from the Roman soldiers. But no evidence was
ever produced.

The political ambitions of Pontius Pilate
certainly carried enough motive and determination
to end this claim if it were false. He knew that
this movement would greatly harm his career if
allowed to stand. This is why he condemned Jesus
to be crucified after he had pronounced him
innocent.

Here is part of Matthew's account of the events
surrounding the resurrection:

The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the
chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.

"Sir," they said, "we remember that while he was
still alive that deceiver said, 'After three days
I will rise again.' So give the order for the
tomb to be made secure until the third day.
Otherwise, his disciples may come and steal the
body and tell the people that he has been raised
from the dead. This last deception will be worse
than the first."

"Take a guard," Pilate answered. "Go, make the
tomb as secure as you know how."

So they went and made the tomb secure by putting
a seal on the stone and posting the guard.

Now remember the motives of each group to make
certain that tomb was secure. Jesus' enemies
testified that he had claimed he would rise
bodily alive after three days.

I consulted the best historical account of the
practices of the Roman legions for this era to
find out details of what would have been done in
a maximum-security case like this -- "The
Institutes of the Roman Legions" by Vegitius.

In such a case, they would have posted
a "quaternion," or four squads of soldiers, to
each watch. So 16 battle-tested soldiers of 10th
Legion, which was one of Rome's best, were posted
as guards at Jesus' tomb. If attacked, a
quaternion would form a square and could stand
off an army until reinforcements arrived. This
same formation is used in Acts 12:4 in another
case of the same magnitude.

When it says they made the tomb secure, it means
they made sure the body they were charged to
watch was there, then rolled the large round
stone (about a ton in weight) into place until it
dropped into a notch that was cut out of the
stone floor. The stone was hard against the solid
rock face of the tomb. The penalty for failure on
watch in the Roman legion was instant execution,
so we can rest assured they did everything
according to the book.

A centurion, according to regulations, regularly
checked watches. If he caught a soldier cat-
napping, he would first light his toga with his
torch, then put a sword down the offender's neck
to his heart.

This tended to give soldiers insomnia.

In spite of all these precautions, three days
later the tomb was empty. The stone was
miraculously rolled back. When the soldiers
checked and found no body, they fled in terror.
Some deserted. Some went to the Jewish religious
authorities and told them what happened. The only
explanation ever given by the Jewish religious
authorities was that the disciples of Jesus came
and stole his body while the soldiers slept.

This explanation could never stand up in any
courtroom. How did the cowering disciples, who
hid when their leader was arrested, get the
courage to stand up against the Roman soldiers?
What would have been their motive? How could all
16 soldiers be so sound asleep when they knew it
meant death if caught? If they were asleep, how
could they have remained so when a one-ton stone
was ground across the rock face to open the tomb?
The noise would have roused the dead.

How could the disciples have the courage to go to
terrible martyrs' deaths because they wouldn't
renounce their testimony that they had seen Jesus
alive and that he had conquered death? Not one
out of over 500 witnesses recanted of that
testimony.

The very transformation that took place in Peter
and the other disciples shows that Jesus must
have come back alive and empowered them by His
spirit -- as He promised He would.

Thank God Jesus is still transforming lives in
the same way today. We just have to believe that
he died to purchase a pardon for our sins, and
then receive the pardon personally. I did, and
now I am certain He is alive."


Lihaa tulossa uskoville.

Maranatha, Herra Jeesus Kristus tulee.
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Muut lukivat myös

Vastaukset 17

Vanhimmat

Joku kuitenkin taas tuo esille että "Naapurin
Eskon nimen lukuarvo on 666!", täytyy muistaa
selventää Raamatun kanta joka on että ei
antikristus ole ainoa ihminen ja ensimmäinen
ihminen maailmassa jonka nimen lukuarvo on 666,
mutta kuitenkin antikristuksenkin nimen lukuarvo
tulee olemaan 666.
Luultavasti tämä pedon merkki tulee olemaan hänen
nimensä tai jonkinlainen logo (..ja logon myötä
logos:kin luultavasi, koska silloin kaikki on
menetetty). Muistakaa myös että Raamattu jätti
tämän 666-tulkinnan viisaille, eikä koko kansan
tehtäväksi. Viisaat tietävät luultavasti milloin
on kyse antikristuksesta ja milloin naapurin
Eskosta.

Maranatha

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Pukata noi vitun pitkää textii,en jaksa lukee!

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  • On myös ihmisiä, jotka lukevat!

    Hyppää ossi reilusti yli vaan!

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  • Uskoisitko jos sanoisin että "Käänny Jeesuksen
    puoleen"? Hyvä jos niin tekisit, mutta useimmat
    vaativat paljon kaikensortin perustelua,
    todisteita ja ennenkaikkea ystävien mielipiteitä
    ennenkuin uskovat yhtään mitään.

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  • Hevoinen kirjoitti:

    Uskoisitko jos sanoisin että "Käänny Jeesuksen
    puoleen"? Hyvä jos niin tekisit, mutta useimmat
    vaativat paljon kaikensortin perustelua,
    todisteita ja ennenkaikkea ystävien mielipiteitä
    ennenkuin uskovat yhtään mitään.

    ei sinun olisi tarvinnut uskon vuoksi vuodattaa
    noin paljon tekstiä.
    olen tiennyt jo jonkin aikaa mikrosirun
    olemassaolon ja nähnyt tv-ohjelman, jossa
    tällaisia laitettiin näyttelykoiriin-suomessa.

    niin että kyllä sinulla on paljon helpompaa saada
    meidät uskomaan mikrosiruun,joka on nähtävissä ja
    kokeltavissa kuin jeesukseen tai jumalaan.

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  • Hevoinen kirjoitti:

    Uskoisitko jos sanoisin että "Käänny Jeesuksen
    puoleen"? Hyvä jos niin tekisit, mutta useimmat
    vaativat paljon kaikensortin perustelua,
    todisteita ja ennenkaikkea ystävien mielipiteitä
    ennenkuin uskovat yhtään mitään.

    ...vain vetoat aivan vääriin perusteisiin johon
    älykkäät ja loogiset ihmiset eivät kuunaan usko,
    kuten Raamattuun, sillä se on täynnä ristiriitoja
    ja epätotuuksia, kun sitä verrataan muihin
    historiallisiin teoksiin. Lisäksi vetoat
    muutamiin harvoihin (maailmanlaajuisesti
    harvoihin) tutkijoihin ja kirjoittelijoihin
    joiden todellisuuden kuva on hämärtynyt. Jos
    pystyisit ajattelemaan kriittisesti käyttämiäsi
    tekstejä ja lukemaan MYÖS sinua vastustavia
    tekstejä enemmän (siis kunnon tutkimuksia) niin
    kenties saisit selvyyden touhuamisiisi. Sillä
    sitä sinä teet, touhuat ja mekastat ilman
    parempaa tietoa. Kuten joku oivasti sanoikin,
    maailma on sellainen kuin se on koska viisaat
    ovat hiljaa ja tyhmät niin kovaäänisiä sekä
    väärässä.

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  • _ kirjoitti:

    ...vain vetoat aivan vääriin perusteisiin johon
    älykkäät ja loogiset ihmiset eivät kuunaan usko,
    kuten Raamattuun, sillä se on täynnä ristiriitoja
    ja epätotuuksia, kun sitä verrataan muihin
    historiallisiin teoksiin. Lisäksi vetoat
    muutamiin harvoihin (maailmanlaajuisesti
    harvoihin) tutkijoihin ja kirjoittelijoihin
    joiden todellisuuden kuva on hämärtynyt. Jos
    pystyisit ajattelemaan kriittisesti käyttämiäsi
    tekstejä ja lukemaan MYÖS sinua vastustavia
    tekstejä enemmän (siis kunnon tutkimuksia) niin
    kenties saisit selvyyden touhuamisiisi. Sillä
    sitä sinä teet, touhuat ja mekastat ilman
    parempaa tietoa. Kuten joku oivasti sanoikin,
    maailma on sellainen kuin se on koska viisaat
    ovat hiljaa ja tyhmät niin kovaäänisiä sekä
    väärässä.

    "pyydän, että uskoisit kun sanon että raamattu on
    oikeassa"

    voi hyvä hevoinen, eihän viisas ihminen millään
    pyytämällä mitään usko, vaikka kiltistikin sen
    tekisit.

    minä taas neuvoisin sinua heittämään sen raamatun
    helvettiin ja hankkimaan itsellesi mukavan
    maallisen elämän.

    ja muuta pois äitin luota.

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miksi ainoat paikat ovat oikea käsi ja otsa?

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  • varmaan siksi että heppamme snoo niin.
    se on varmaan taas se uskon asia.

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  • maaenkeli kirjoitti:

    varmaan siksi että heppamme snoo niin.
    se on varmaan taas se uskon asia.

    Raamattu sanoo, että merkki pannaan, joko oikeaan
    käteen tai otsaan.(kukaan ei voi ostaa tai myydä,
    jos ei ole merkkiä)

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  • Jos en täysin väärin muista, ne ovat ainoat
    paikat ihmisen ruumiissa jossa on sopiva
    verenkierto implantille. Muut paikat mielestäni
    myös hylkivät kaikensortin implantteja, mutta
    nämä kaksi paikkaa eivät. Mutta loppujen lopuksi
    Raamatussa kuitenkin sanotaan, että ne ihmiset
    jotka ovat ottaneet pedon merkin (otsaan/käteen),
    nämä paikat rupeavat olikos se nyt märkimään, eli
    ihmisruumis ei loppujen lopuksi hyväksy
    implanttia ollenkaan, vaikka alussa toisin
    luultiinkin. Pedon merkki (nimi tosin on
    luultavasti eri :D) on pian täällä. Sen tultua se
    on pakko ottaa, jos ei ota, ei voi ostaa mitään
    eikä luultavasti käydäkkään yhtään ihmisten
    ilmoilla, eli sama asia jos olisi rikollinen. Jos
    taas ottaa pedon merkkiin, silloin joutuu
    kadotukseen, tässä Raamattu on kerrankin
    superselvä. Mutta tänään, pedonmerkkiä ei ole
    vielä ilmaantunut, eivätkä ihmiset vielä sylje
    päälle, on aikaa vielä pelastua ja olla
    joutumatta tähän suuren koetuksen aikaan. Jeesus
    pelastaa omansa tästä koetuksesta. Tutkikaamme
    siis Jeesuksen sanoja vaikka pelkästään VARMUUDEN
    VUOKSI (tosin ei voi uskoa pelkästään varmuuden
    vuoksi..), että ei pääse Jeesus ja tuomio
    yllättämään. Jeesus pelastaa, ei kukaan muu.

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  • Hevoinen vastasi sulle ihan oikein. Minäkin oon
    kuullu ihan saman perustelun. Vaikka nää asiat
    tuntuu ihan ihmellisiltä, ne ovat varmasti totta.
    Tämmönen systeemi on varmastikin tulossa.
    Lueskelepa vaikka ihan huviksesi ilmestyskirjas-
    ta, kun siellä kerrotaan muistakin tulevista
    tapahtumista. Siitäkin, että tulee aika,
    jolloin aurinko alkaa paistaa niin kuumasti, että
    se polttaa. Kerrotaan, että ihmiset silloin
    tuskissaan pilkkaavat Jumalaa. Mitä luulet, eikö
    olekin uutisissa ollut tietoja siitä, että
    maapallon keskilämpötila nousee jatkuvasti ja
    otsoonikerros ohenee. Tätäkään ei olisi uskottu
    vielä parikymmentä vuotta sitten, mutta nyt
    kukaan ei tarvii todistusta siitä, että aurinko
    polttaa. Sen tuntee ja näkee.

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  • Hevoinen kirjoitti:

    Jos en täysin väärin muista, ne ovat ainoat
    paikat ihmisen ruumiissa jossa on sopiva
    verenkierto implantille. Muut paikat mielestäni
    myös hylkivät kaikensortin implantteja, mutta
    nämä kaksi paikkaa eivät. Mutta loppujen lopuksi
    Raamatussa kuitenkin sanotaan, että ne ihmiset
    jotka ovat ottaneet pedon merkin (otsaan/käteen),
    nämä paikat rupeavat olikos se nyt märkimään, eli
    ihmisruumis ei loppujen lopuksi hyväksy
    implanttia ollenkaan, vaikka alussa toisin
    luultiinkin. Pedon merkki (nimi tosin on
    luultavasti eri :D) on pian täällä. Sen tultua se
    on pakko ottaa, jos ei ota, ei voi ostaa mitään
    eikä luultavasti käydäkkään yhtään ihmisten
    ilmoilla, eli sama asia jos olisi rikollinen. Jos
    taas ottaa pedon merkkiin, silloin joutuu
    kadotukseen, tässä Raamattu on kerrankin
    superselvä. Mutta tänään, pedonmerkkiä ei ole
    vielä ilmaantunut, eivätkä ihmiset vielä sylje
    päälle, on aikaa vielä pelastua ja olla
    joutumatta tähän suuren koetuksen aikaan. Jeesus
    pelastaa omansa tästä koetuksesta. Tutkikaamme
    siis Jeesuksen sanoja vaikka pelkästään VARMUUDEN
    VUOKSI (tosin ei voi uskoa pelkästään varmuuden
    vuoksi..), että ei pääse Jeesus ja tuomio
    yllättämään. Jeesus pelastaa, ei kukaan muu.

    ei sitä helvettiä ole.
    älä pelkää poika.

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  • Ane kirjoitti:

    Hevoinen vastasi sulle ihan oikein. Minäkin oon
    kuullu ihan saman perustelun. Vaikka nää asiat
    tuntuu ihan ihmellisiltä, ne ovat varmasti totta.
    Tämmönen systeemi on varmastikin tulossa.
    Lueskelepa vaikka ihan huviksesi ilmestyskirjas-
    ta, kun siellä kerrotaan muistakin tulevista
    tapahtumista. Siitäkin, että tulee aika,
    jolloin aurinko alkaa paistaa niin kuumasti, että
    se polttaa. Kerrotaan, että ihmiset silloin
    tuskissaan pilkkaavat Jumalaa. Mitä luulet, eikö
    olekin uutisissa ollut tietoja siitä, että
    maapallon keskilämpötila nousee jatkuvasti ja
    otsoonikerros ohenee. Tätäkään ei olisi uskottu
    vielä parikymmentä vuotta sitten, mutta nyt
    kukaan ei tarvii todistusta siitä, että aurinko
    polttaa. Sen tuntee ja näkee.

    kyllä tästä otzoonikerroksesta on jo puhuttu
    vähintään 20 vuotta, mutta kun saastuttajat eivät
    ota oppiakseen.

    tiedemiehet ovat kyllä "ennustaneet" kalavesien
    pilaantumisen ja kalojen joukkokuolemat ja
    auringonsäteitten pääsemisen vahingoittamaan
    ihmistä, koska me pilaamme ozon-kerroksen.

    mutta emme me vaan ota opiksemme.

    kaikki johtuu jumalan tyhmyydestä, loihan hän
    ihmisen omaksi kuvakseen.
    vai johtuuko kaikki omenasta, vai vai vai vai....

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  • maaenkeli kirjoitti:

    kyllä tästä otzoonikerroksesta on jo puhuttu
    vähintään 20 vuotta, mutta kun saastuttajat eivät
    ota oppiakseen.

    tiedemiehet ovat kyllä "ennustaneet" kalavesien
    pilaantumisen ja kalojen joukkokuolemat ja
    auringonsäteitten pääsemisen vahingoittamaan
    ihmistä, koska me pilaamme ozon-kerroksen.

    mutta emme me vaan ota opiksemme.

    kaikki johtuu jumalan tyhmyydestä, loihan hän
    ihmisen omaksi kuvakseen.
    vai johtuuko kaikki omenasta, vai vai vai vai....

    Vähän paha mennä sanomaan Jumalaa tyhmäksi. Siitä
    syntyy nääs semmonen kehäpäätelmä, että jos sinä,
    Jumalan kuvaksi luotu ihminen sanot Jumalaa
    tyhmäksi olet sitä siinä tapauksessa itsekin -
    olethan Hänen kuvansa.

    Valinnan vapaus, jonka Jumala meille antoi on
    suurta rakkautta meitä kohtaan, ei suinkaan
    tyhmyyttä, julmuutta eikä mitään pahaa.

    Jumala antaa meidän valita vapaasti oman
    toimintamme rajat: saamme tehdä joko hyvää tai
    pahaa. Omapa on asiamme, jokainen kärsii/saa
    palkkansa omista teoistaan ( tosin monet muutkin
    joutuvat kärsimään jos teemme väärin).

    Me puuhailemme omiamme täällä pikku maailmassamme.
    Omissa pikku ympyröissämme. Olemme kuin kärpäsiä
    lentokoneessa: luulemme, että siinä on meidän
    koko maailmamme. Itse asiassa olemme vain
    matkalaisia, sidottuja niihin olosuhteisiin,
    siihen "lentokoneeseen", joka vie meitä perille.
    Itse meillä on vapaus valita, haluammeko nauttia
    ja antaa toistenkin kanssamatkaavien nauttia
    matkasta, vai teemmekö matkasta ikävän. Jumala
    vie kyllä omansa perille asti, vaikka olosuhteet
    ympärillämme olisivat millaiset tahansa.

    Vaatii suurta rohkeutta tunnustaa omat virheensä,
    paljon suurempaa rohkeutta kuin selitellä
    loputtomasti. Kaikki ei johdu omenasta, ei...ei...
    kaikki johtuu sinusta ja minusta.

    Äänestä

hiljasta. Sallinet jos lainaan suurta-ajttelijaa
ja kolkkapoikaa nimeltä Glenn Benton "Rip of your
bible before it's too late!!!" tämä sitten
sanotaan örinääänellä(mahdollisimman ilkeästi).

Äänestä

hiljasta. Sallinet jos lainaan suurta-ajttelijaa
ja kolkkapoikaa nimeltä Glenn Benton "Rip of your
bible before it's too late!!!" tämä sitten
sanotaan örinääänellä(mahdollisimman ilkeästi).

Äänestä

Kommentoi aloitusta


Hevoinen kirjoitti:

666-uutisia

Californian Sacramentossa pian tullaan asettamaan
kaikkien koiran ja kissan omistajien
velvollisuudeksi mennä asentamaan lemmikkeihinsä
(ihon sisälle) pieni mikrosiru. Liitin alle
alkuperäisen uutisen. En voi olla ajattelematta
että kuinka kauan vielä kestää että
tämänkaltainen siru (joka oli vielä muutama vuosi
sitten täysin naurun aihe) tullaan asentamaan
ihmisiin, luultavasti "ihmisten oman
turvallisuuden vuoksi". Se on jo tiedossa että
ainoat paikat ihmiselle johon voidaan asentaa
jonkinlainen mikrosiru ovat oikea käsi ja otsa.
Anteeksi vain nyt kun tälläisiä älyttömyyksiä
vihjailen, mutta eikös tästä joku jo tainnut
puhua n. 2000 vuotta sitten kirjassa nimeltä
Raamattu?.."On aika nauraa, on aika itkeä" taisi
sanoa Salomonkin. Nyt on uskottomien aika
naureskelle, ja uskovaisten itkeä, mutta pian
roolit tulevat muuttumaan. Nyt on tässä
maailmassa todentotta suru ja itku kristityille,
uusi tutkimus osoittaa että PELKÄSTÄÄN tänä
vuonna tullaan teloittamaan kristittyjä uskonsa
takia, kuin koskaan ikinä ennen yhteensä.
Aikamoisen hätkähdyttävää, mutta jumalattomat
senkun vaan porskuttavat..Lukekaa allaoleva
uutinen (erityisesti viimeinen kappale) ja
pelastakaa itsenne Jeesuksen avulla, muuta tapaa
ei ole.


Maitoa:

"'Dog tag' gets whole new meaning
Posted Thursday, April 12, 2001
Source:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a
sp?ARTICLE_ID=22366

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Pet owners in California
will soon be required to place a microchip in
every dog and cat they sell, as well as obtain a
permit for each animal to be sold, if a bill in
the state legislature becomes law.

Senate Bill 236 by Sen. Jack O'Connell, D-Santa
Barbara, would require anyone who wants to sell a
dog or cat under 1-year-old to obtain a permit
for an unspecified fee per animal from the local
animal services agency. The permit would need to
be obtained before advertising any such sale, and
all ads would have to include the permit number.

Additionally, the bill provides that every time a
dog or cat is sold in California, regardless of
the animal's age, it must be "microchipped" and
the owner's identification entered into a local
or national registry. And every time ownership of
the animal is transferred, the new owner's
information must be reported to the registry.
Local officials would be charged with maintaining
records regarding the number and type of dogs and
cats sold, and the records would be open to the
public, excluding owner- and former owner-contact
information.

The bill is sponsored by Richard McLellan, M.D.,
of the Animal Legislative Action Network, a
political action committee that supports animal-
rights proposals.

"When an animal is first sold from a breeder into
a new home, there's usually a way of finding out
who that original owner was. After that, if
becomes much less easy to follow these animals,"
said McLellan about the microchipping
requirement. "We identify all sorts of things in
our society for a number of reasons. We put
serial numbers on VCRs and toasters," but there
is no permanent identification marker for pets.
The bill would help create a paper or electronic
trail for animals.

While the bill does not specify which
manufacturer's microchips are to be used, one of
the most recent of such devices to enter the
market is Applied Digital Solutions' Digital
Angel®. As reported by WorldNetDaily, Digital
Angel® isn't just for pets. Unlike its microchip
ancestors, which were intended for animal
identification and location only, Digital Angel®
is intended for human use and can monitor vital
physical functions such as heart rate and body
temperature. Microchips are implanted under the
skin of the person or animal."


Ne jotka jaksoivat loppuun asti, kevennystä
heille, uskon kevyttä leipää:



"Faith: Historians say Resurrection a reality

Posted Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Source:http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?
QID=176324

Faith: Historians say Resurrection a reality
By UWE SIEMON-NETTO, UPI Religion correspondent

WASHINGTON, April 11 (UPI) - "If Christ is not
risen, then our preaching
is empty and our faith is also empty," the
Apostle Paul wrote only a few
years after the Crucifixion (1 Corinthians 15:14).

The Resurrection narrative in all four gospels is
the one story on which
all Christian hope is fixed. Is it a ruse? Was it
the figment of the scared
disciples' hysterical imagination that Jesus
appeared to them after his
execution?

The late Pinchas Lapide, a Jewish New Testament
scholar, considers this
suggestion of 19th and early 20th-century liberal
theologians preposterous:

"This band of disciples was beaten and weary. Yet
almost overnight it
transformed itself into a victorious faith
movement," he wrote.

"If this had occurred simply on the basis of auto-
suggestion and
self-deceit, it would have been a much greater
miracle than the Resurrection
itself."

In a dramatic turnaround from post-Enlightenment
skepticism, historians
are now inclined to give much more credence to
the New Testament accounts of
the Resurrection than their predecessors.

"There is so much evidence pointing to its
veracity," wrote professor
Juergen Spiess of Marburg University in IDEA, a
German Protestant news
service.

According to Spiess and several other historians,
Christ was probably
crucified on April 7 of the year 30. If this is
so, the Resurrection
occurred on April 9, a Sunday.

There have always been doubters claiming that
Jesus never died on the
cross. Mohammed denied it. But the Biblical
passion stories are backed up by
at least one irreproachable secular source:

The Roman historian Tacitus (55-120 A.D.) wrote
that the "founder of this
sect (the Christians) was executed during the
reign of (emperor) Tiberius by
the Governor Pontius Pilate" (Tacitus, annals
XV). "This corroborates
Scripture," Spiess explained.

"Historians work like lawyers," he
continued, "They reconstruct past
events on the basis of sources, evidence and
eyewitness accounts."

Helga Botermann, a professor at Goettingen
University, has shown that in
researching the Good Friday and Easter events,
the evangelist Luke followed
the same methodology used by modern historians.

Luke, a Greek physician, "endeavored to present
the facts as they had
happened. He used eyewitness accounts and -- in
the Book of Acts -- his own
recollections."

Botermann went on to state, "Luke wrote for his
contemporaries, who were
capable of judging his account of these facts
with which they were familiar
either from their own experience or the reports
of others.

"Thus there is no justifiable reason to approach
his rendering of history
with prejudicial skepticism ... Luke's sources
were also his critics. This
makes it very unlikely that he embellished his
story willfully with his own
prejudices or intentions."

Spiess sees Christ's empty grave as a key piece
of evidence for the
veracity of the Resurrection story. Here he
agrees with William Lane Craig,
arguably one of America's finest Christian
apologists.

In an article published in Truth Journal, Lane
pointed out that even "the
earliest Jewish polemic presupposed the empty
tomb." It simply interpreted
this phenomenon differently.

"In Matthew 28, we find the Christian attempt to
refute (this)," Craig
wrote. "That polemic asserted that the disciples
stole away the body. The
Christians responded ... by reciting the story of
a guard at the tomb, and
the polemic in turn charged that the guard fell
asleep."

The long and the short of this dispute is,
though, that both sides
provided evidence for the empty tomb, Craig said.

Pinchas Lapide, the Jewish scholar, added another
point favoring the
Resurrection account. The first people to find
the grave empty and encounter
the risen Christ were women.

But women had such a low standing in Hebrew
society at that time that
their testimony would not have even been
considered in court. Hence, Lapide
reasoned that anybody trying to fake a story in
1st-century Palestine would
hardly have presented women as his prime
witnesses.

Another argument against the Resurrection
narrative survived in multiple
variations for almost 2,000 years and was eagerly
picked up by rationalist
German scholars of the late 18th and 19th
centuries."


Ja hieman lisää leipää..

"Is He risen?

Posted Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Source:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a
sp?ARTICLE_ID=22374

Simon Greenleaf, who was head of the Harvard Law
School for some 30 years, was once challenged by
his students to apply his "Laws of Legal
Evidence" (which are still a standard reference
for courts today) to an investigation of the
resurrection of Jesus Christ.

After a thorough study, Greenleaf concluded that
Jesus' resurrection was supported by better and
fuller evidence than any other event of
antiquity. He wrote a book on his investigation
called "The Testimony of The Four Evangelists,"
which is still available in most University legal
libraries.

It is a recognized fact that the validity of
Christianity stands or falls with whether Jesus
Christ came out of his tomb bodily alive three
days after his death.

This is not something that Jesus' followers set
up -- Jesus himself threw down this gauntlet in
front of his most dedicated enemies. Jesus,
unlike any other religious leader in history,
staked the validity of everything he taught,
lived and died for on the single condition that
he would rise from the dead bodily on the third
day. He bet it all on that one proposition. This,
more than any other factor, makes him unique
among all other religious founders.

One of the first evidences to consider is whether
the written accounts of the resurrection can be
trusted. The very animosity of the religious
leaders, who forced his execution, is one reason
we can trust that they are true. We know that
this message about Jesus' resurrection was
preached in the streets of Jerusalem within a
couple weeks of his death. The religious leaders
had every motive to produce evidence to disprove
their claims. They could have easily ended the
claim either by producing his body, or the bodies
of his followers who were killed stealing Jesus'
body from the Roman soldiers. But no evidence was
ever produced.

The political ambitions of Pontius Pilate
certainly carried enough motive and determination
to end this claim if it were false. He knew that
this movement would greatly harm his career if
allowed to stand. This is why he condemned Jesus
to be crucified after he had pronounced him
innocent.

Here is part of Matthew's account of the events
surrounding the resurrection:

The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the
chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.

"Sir," they said, "we remember that while he was
still alive that deceiver said, 'After three days
I will rise again.' So give the order for the
tomb to be made secure until the third day.
Otherwise, his disciples may come and steal the
body and tell the people that he has been raised
from the dead. This last deception will be worse
than the first."

"Take a guard," Pilate answered. "Go, make the
tomb as secure as you know how."

So they went and made the tomb secure by putting
a seal on the stone and posting the guard.

Now remember the motives of each group to make
certain that tomb was secure. Jesus' enemies
testified that he had claimed he would rise
bodily alive after three days.

I consulted the best historical account of the
practices of the Roman legions for this era to
find out details of what would have been done in
a maximum-security case like this -- "The
Institutes of the Roman Legions" by Vegitius.

In such a case, they would have posted
a "quaternion," or four squads of soldiers, to
each watch. So 16 battle-tested soldiers of 10th
Legion, which was one of Rome's best, were posted
as guards at Jesus' tomb. If attacked, a
quaternion would form a square and could stand
off an army until reinforcements arrived. This
same formation is used in Acts 12:4 in another
case of the same magnitude.

When it says they made the tomb secure, it means
they made sure the body they were charged to
watch was there, then rolled the large round
stone (about a ton in weight) into place until it
dropped into a notch that was cut out of the
stone floor. The stone was hard against the solid
rock face of the tomb. The penalty for failure on
watch in the Roman legion was instant execution,
so we can rest assured they did everything
according to the book.

A centurion, according to regulations, regularly
checked watches. If he caught a soldier cat-
napping, he would first light his toga with his
torch, then put a sword down the offender's neck
to his heart.

This tended to give soldiers insomnia.

In spite of all these precautions, three days
later the tomb was empty. The stone was
miraculously rolled back. When the soldiers
checked and found no body, they fled in terror.
Some deserted. Some went to the Jewish religious
authorities and told them what happened. The only
explanation ever given by the Jewish religious
authorities was that the disciples of Jesus came
and stole his body while the soldiers slept.

This explanation could never stand up in any
courtroom. How did the cowering disciples, who
hid when their leader was arrested, get the
courage to stand up against the Roman soldiers?
What would have been their motive? How could all
16 soldiers be so sound asleep when they knew it
meant death if caught? If they were asleep, how
could they have remained so when a one-ton stone
was ground across the rock face to open the tomb?
The noise would have roused the dead.

How could the disciples have the courage to go to
terrible martyrs' deaths because they wouldn't
renounce their testimony that they had seen Jesus
alive and that he had conquered death? Not one
out of over 500 witnesses recanted of that
testimony.

The very transformation that took place in Peter
and the other disciples shows that Jesus must
have come back alive and empowered them by His
spirit -- as He promised He would.

Thank God Jesus is still transforming lives in
the same way today. We just have to believe that
he died to purchase a pardon for our sins, and
then receive the pardon personally. I did, and
now I am certain He is alive."


Lihaa tulossa uskoville.

Maranatha, Herra Jeesus Kristus tulee.

Anonyymi
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