Italialainen anti-lahko organisaatio Cesap (Centro Studi Abusi Psicologici) luokittelee mm. Neokatekumenaalisen tien kultiksi.
The Italian anti-cult network CeSAP (Center for Studies on Psychological Abuses) also classifies the NC Way as a cult. Neocatechumenal catechists considered better than priests and Bishops; cult of personality; "fabricated" Redemptoris Mater priests. About Kiko Argüello, Father Marcello Stanzione writes of a true “cult of personality”; about "Redemptoris Mater" seminaries, “Neocatechumenals do not trust clergy; this is the reason why Kiko created the Redemptoris Mater seminaries, to have priests in his likeness and after his image” (Italian text reads: “c’è un culto della personalità verso l’Argüello... non si fidano dei preti, è questo il motivo per cui Kiko ha voluto i seminari Redemptoris Mater, per avere un clero plasmato a sua immagine e somiglianza” - http://www.cesap.net/
http://neocatecumenali.blogspot.com/2010/04/neocatecumenali-gnosi-e-uso-del-denaro.html
It’s not surprising that these liturgical practices would cause confusion among the faithful and bishops have indeed complained. Leo Jun Ikenaga, Archbishop of Osaka, Japan, issued a statement last year criticizing the group for causing chaos and division within parishes, saying “the net effect” of the NeoCatechumenal Way in Japan has been “negative.”
http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=12418
He said that the bishops hope that those who have come into personal contact with the actions of the Neocatechumenal Way will relate their experiences to the pope’s envoy.
http://ncronline.org/news/global/bishop-vatican-approved-group-has-caused-problems-chaos
http://www.internetica.it/neocatecumenali/english/home-en.htm
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,107551
The Italian anti-cult network CeSAP (Center for Studies on Psychological Abuses) also classifies the NC Way as a cult. Neocatechumenal catechists considered better than priests and Bishops; cult of personality; "fabricated" Redemptoris Mater priests. About Kiko Argüello, Father Marcello Stanzione writes of a true “cult of personality”; about "Redemptoris Mater" seminaries, “Neocatechumenals do not trust clergy; this is the reason why Kiko created the Redemptoris Mater seminaries, to have priests in his likeness and after his image” (Italian text reads: “c’è un culto della personalità verso l’Argüello... non si fidano dei preti, è questo il motivo per cui Kiko ha voluto i seminari Redemptoris Mater, per avere un clero plasmato a sua immagine e somiglianza” - http://www.cesap.net/
http://neocatecumenali.blogspot.com/2010/04/neocatecumenali-gnosi-e-uso-del-denaro.html
It’s not surprising that these liturgical practices would cause confusion among the faithful and bishops have indeed complained. Leo Jun Ikenaga, Archbishop of Osaka, Japan, issued a statement last year criticizing the group for causing chaos and division within parishes, saying “the net effect” of the NeoCatechumenal Way in Japan has been “negative.”
http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=12418
He said that the bishops hope that those who have come into personal contact with the actions of the Neocatechumenal Way will relate their experiences to the pope’s envoy.
http://ncronline.org/news/global/bishop-vatican-approved-group-has-caused-problems-chaos
http://www.internetica.it/neocatecumenali/english/home-en.htm
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,107551
Vastaukset 6
Vanhimmat
"Onko Neokatekumenaalinen tie kultti?"
Ainakin henkilökultti.
Kannattaa olla ainakin hieman varovainen ja etenkin jos on juuri kääntynyt katolilaiseksi. Liikellä jolla on hyvin ehdoton käsitys oman tavan paremmuudesta voi pienessä hiippakunnassa luoda paljon kiistaa.
HEIDÄN MESSU KÄSITYKSESTÄ
4. THE MASS is not a “sacrifice”: the Church, at the altar, does not offer to God any Victim;
- in place of the altar, there is nothing but the table, which in the Eucharist allows a festive party to be celebrated among brothers united by the same faith in the Resurrection;
- the consecrated bread and wine are only the symbol of the presence of the risen Christ which unites the fellow-guests by communicating their own spirit, thus making them participants in his triumph over death;
- the Mass, thus conceived, is not celebrated by the priest, but by the Assembly, from which “springs the Eucharist.”
5. EUCHARISTIC WORSHIP does not have any meaning, it negates the true, real and substantial presence of Christ under the sacramental species. Acts of faith such as genuflections before the Tabernacle, frequent Communions, hours of adoration, benedictions, processions, congresses, etc. are not therefore justified.
http://acatholiclife.blogspot.fi/2007/01/avoid-neocatechumenal-way.html
neokatekumenaalit laulavat kitaroineen “Menkää ja ilmoittakaa veljilleni “.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTPRMzyPz4
LITURGINEN HUOMATUS NEO.KAT. PAPEILLE:
Versus Deum per Iesum Christum
"La direzione ultima dell'azione liturgica, mai totalmente espressa nelle forme esterne, è la stessa per il sacerdote e il popolo: verso il Signore". L'introduzione del decano del Sacro Collegio al libro di Uwe Michael Lang
del cardinale Joseph Ratzinger
Mitä tapahtuu muualla missä neokatekumenaalisen "tie" liike saa otteen seurakunnasta.
Advice for my friend - Neocatechumenal Way divided parish
My parish has a large Neocatechumenal community. I'd guess about 40% of the people in our parish are members. My friend, M, recently found out about this "community within a community" and is very upset by the divisions it is causing in our parish.
First of all, the Neocat Mass is celebrated on Saturday evening but is not advertised on any or the church literature and regular parish members are not made welcome if they try to attend this Mass, second, all the active roles in our church are held my members of the neocat community, finally many of the non-neocat people in our parish feel "left out" or unwanted because they are not invited to take a more active role.
My friend recently found all this out and is devestated to find division like this in a Catholic Church. (She may have posted about this over at Catholic Community Forum Discussion group) M asked about doing the readings at Mass but was told all the positions were filled. She also asked about other volunteer activities but was told the same. She is not the only person like this.
When she converted to Catholicism from Buddhism/Shinto, one of the main attractions was the unity of the Catholic faith worldwide. She now believes that she has been betrayed. She is talking about going to a neighbouring parish but it is about 90 minutes by train and the whole trip will take over 2 hours one way. I'm worried that if she leaves our parish and joins the other one she won't be able to put up with the 2 hour trip (4 + hours in total) every Sunday and may just give up.
Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with a community that is so divided? Our previous bishop was very supportive of the NeoCat Way but our present bishop is not. He is constantly lecturing and writing on the importance of unity within a community and the inclusion of everyone. However because 40% of parishoners plus quite a few of our priests (including our parish preist) are members of the neocat community and they are very alive in their faith, I think he feels he can't push the issue too much.
Any help or advice would be much appreciated. I'm really worried about M.
Gearoidin
Joitakin vuosia sitten neokatekumenaalit houkuttelivat minua lauantain liturgiaansa ja sitä kautta siis muutenkin mukaan neokatekumenaaliselle tielle. Kanssa juttelemaan ryhtyneet naiset (olen itsekin nainen) olivat hullaantuneen ja - anteeksi nyt vain - hieman järkensä menettäneen oloisia ainakin siinä keskustelussamme. Kysyin heiltä kaksi kysymystä: Saako teidän ryhmään kuuluvat käydä muissakin katolilaisten ryhmien kokoontumisissa ja olla mukana muissakin toiminnoissa? Saako teidän ryhmän keskuudessa kysyä, keskustella ja kritisoida vapaasti? Molempiin sain vastaukseksi vaivautunutta punastelua. Totesin etten ole kiinnostunut liikkeestä, vaan aion pysyä muissa katolisissa toiminnoissa.
Myöhemmin on tullut ilmi useita muita erittäin ikäviä asioita ko. uskonnolliseen liikkeeseen liittyen.
Minun mielipiteeni on tässä:
Neokatekumenaalinen tie on lahko. Sen lahkoluonteesta ja vaarallisista piirteistä löytyy runsaasti englanninkielistä materiaalia netistä, jos vähän viitsii etsiä.
Toivottavasti "Tien" taustoja ja menneiden vuosien toimintoja tutkitaan pintaa syvemmältä, jotta saadaan entistä luotettavampaa tietoa lahkon toimintatavoista ja mahdollisista väärinkäytöksistä. Kirkko ei saa olla turvaton eikä vaarallinen paikka jäsenilleen.