Mormonin Kirjan historia http://www.ancientamerica.org/
Samalla on hyvä tutustua tämänkin sivun antiin: http://bmaf.org/node/323
Ja tämä sivusto : http://www.bmaf.org/node/519
Viimeisn bmafn maili kertoo erityisesti sanayhdistelmästä " Ja niin tapahtui" (And it came to pass) Sanayhdistelmä joka löytyy MKsta 1476 kertaa (alkuperäisestä, jonka kieltä ei oel korjattu). Vanhassa Testamentisas se on 526 kertaa ja on erityinen vanhan hebrean tunnusmerkki. Noita sanoja kuvaava merkki on onnistuttu tulkitsemaan jo 80 luvulla.
When Bruce Warren (1987: 62-64) examined studies of time indicator glyphs by leading Maya hieroglyphic scholars Linda Schele (1982) and David Stuart (1984), he was struck by a striking Book of Mormon correspondence. J. Eric Thompson (1950: 162-64) first discovered that a posterior Maya date indicator glyph meant “to count forward to”, and an anterior date indicator meant “to count backward to.” An equivalent spoken phrase was not known then in any Maya dialect.
Three decades later after advances in deciphering Maya hieroglyphics, David Stuart (1984: 5) gave a Proto-Cholan Maya reading of uth as “to finish, come to pass,” or Chontal ut with the same meaning. Linda Schele in1982 (21-25) translated and illustrated this frequently used word in Maya hieroglyphic texts in four types of directional indicators as “then it came to pass,” “until it came to pass,” “since it had come to pass,” etc.
Dr. Warren then illustrated the several striking Book of Mormon correspondence types that match Maya texts at Palenque, Chiapas, Mexico from Schele’s study (1982: 68-69; see figure above: Temple of Inscriptions panel section, Palenque, with glyph variants for it “came to pass”. (from Allen1989 Fig. 3-4)
Poll Vuhin ja MKn kirjoituksesta on löydetty huomattavia yhteläisyyksiä.
Angela M. Crowell (1992: 12) states that, “Knowledge of the poetic structure of the Book of Mormon calls attention to the great beauty of its verse and aids our understanding of its message,” in addition to recognizing its ancient Hebrew origin.
Alan J. Christensen’s (2003: 52) translation of the Popol Vuh recognizes that, “Far from being the random musings of an unlearned story-teller, the Popol Vuh can be appreciated as the eloquent creation of a master poet with a sophisticated literary heritage.”
Is there earlier origin of this poetic structure in Maya hieroglyphic texts? I participated with Schele’s translation workshop at the University of Texas in 1986 and worked on the Palace Tablet dating to the 7th century A.D. During that week I was able to decipher an underlying geometric “chiasmic” composition structure of the text that placed the name of first ancestor, Pacal, of the Palenque dynasty in the exact geometric “chiasmic” center of the panel text. I found other Palenque panels similarly designed. This is a subject for another time. I only mention it here to illustrate the antiquity of Maya writing for Book of Mormon comparison. (King Pacal's sarcophagus lid at Palenque)
A related subject for investigation is, to what degree evolved Nephite Hebrew writing (Mormon 9: 32-34) might be found in Maya hieroglyphic writing. Maya hieroglyphic writing as we know it does not qualify for Nephite writing for locating Book of Mormon history in Maya territory as some have supposed. The origin of the Maya writing system goes back to Olmec-Jaredite times, so we are looking at a long and complex evolved history of a particular writing development that was manifested in a variety of regional hieroglyphic systems in Guatemala, Veracruz and elsewhere during the Late Preclassic era before the Classic Maya system became fully formalized in the third century A.D. Later, in a generation when Lamanite and Nephite cultures had merged, this would tie more directly to historic Lamanite culture.
Samalla on hyvä tutustua tämänkin sivun antiin: http://bmaf.org/node/323
Ja tämä sivusto : http://www.bmaf.org/node/519
Viimeisn bmafn maili kertoo erityisesti sanayhdistelmästä " Ja niin tapahtui" (And it came to pass) Sanayhdistelmä joka löytyy MKsta 1476 kertaa (alkuperäisestä, jonka kieltä ei oel korjattu). Vanhassa Testamentisas se on 526 kertaa ja on erityinen vanhan hebrean tunnusmerkki. Noita sanoja kuvaava merkki on onnistuttu tulkitsemaan jo 80 luvulla.
When Bruce Warren (1987: 62-64) examined studies of time indicator glyphs by leading Maya hieroglyphic scholars Linda Schele (1982) and David Stuart (1984), he was struck by a striking Book of Mormon correspondence. J. Eric Thompson (1950: 162-64) first discovered that a posterior Maya date indicator glyph meant “to count forward to”, and an anterior date indicator meant “to count backward to.” An equivalent spoken phrase was not known then in any Maya dialect.
Three decades later after advances in deciphering Maya hieroglyphics, David Stuart (1984: 5) gave a Proto-Cholan Maya reading of uth as “to finish, come to pass,” or Chontal ut with the same meaning. Linda Schele in1982 (21-25) translated and illustrated this frequently used word in Maya hieroglyphic texts in four types of directional indicators as “then it came to pass,” “until it came to pass,” “since it had come to pass,” etc.
Dr. Warren then illustrated the several striking Book of Mormon correspondence types that match Maya texts at Palenque, Chiapas, Mexico from Schele’s study (1982: 68-69; see figure above: Temple of Inscriptions panel section, Palenque, with glyph variants for it “came to pass”. (from Allen1989 Fig. 3-4)
Poll Vuhin ja MKn kirjoituksesta on löydetty huomattavia yhteläisyyksiä.
Angela M. Crowell (1992: 12) states that, “Knowledge of the poetic structure of the Book of Mormon calls attention to the great beauty of its verse and aids our understanding of its message,” in addition to recognizing its ancient Hebrew origin.
Alan J. Christensen’s (2003: 52) translation of the Popol Vuh recognizes that, “Far from being the random musings of an unlearned story-teller, the Popol Vuh can be appreciated as the eloquent creation of a master poet with a sophisticated literary heritage.”
Is there earlier origin of this poetic structure in Maya hieroglyphic texts? I participated with Schele’s translation workshop at the University of Texas in 1986 and worked on the Palace Tablet dating to the 7th century A.D. During that week I was able to decipher an underlying geometric “chiasmic” composition structure of the text that placed the name of first ancestor, Pacal, of the Palenque dynasty in the exact geometric “chiasmic” center of the panel text. I found other Palenque panels similarly designed. This is a subject for another time. I only mention it here to illustrate the antiquity of Maya writing for Book of Mormon comparison. (King Pacal's sarcophagus lid at Palenque)
A related subject for investigation is, to what degree evolved Nephite Hebrew writing (Mormon 9: 32-34) might be found in Maya hieroglyphic writing. Maya hieroglyphic writing as we know it does not qualify for Nephite writing for locating Book of Mormon history in Maya territory as some have supposed. The origin of the Maya writing system goes back to Olmec-Jaredite times, so we are looking at a long and complex evolved history of a particular writing development that was manifested in a variety of regional hieroglyphic systems in Guatemala, Veracruz and elsewhere during the Late Preclassic era before the Classic Maya system became fully formalized in the third century A.D. Later, in a generation when Lamanite and Nephite cultures had merged, this would tie more directly to historic Lamanite culture.
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Vanhimmat
Saisinko "ja niin tapahtui" alkuperäisellä heprealla jota ei ole korjattu ? Heprea muuten muuttui niiden 700 vuoden aikana jolloin heprealaista Raamattua kirjoitettiin, minkä ajan hepreaa mormonikirjan väitetään muistuttavan? Mikään kieli ei pysy samana satoja vuosia ellei sitä puhuva ryhmä ole täysin eristyksissä muista kulttuureista ja vaikutteista.
"niin tapahtui" (And it came to pass) Sanayhdistelmä joka löytyy MKsta 1476 kertaa (alkuperäisestä, jonka kieltä ei oel korjattu). "
Tässä Nenada tunnustaa, että alkuperäinen Mormonin kirja on kirjoitettu englanniksi. Jo oli aikakin!
No niin tosiaan...
Nedadan "tunnustushan" onkin yleispätevä?
Niin, jospa mayat olivatkin ensimmäisiä mormoneja eli heitä, jotka kännykän tapaisen laitteen avulla purjetivat Israelista Luvattuun maahan.
Maijoillhan oli vähän samantapainen kirjoituksen ilmiasu kuin Smithin kultaisissa levyissä.
Jospa ne kultaiset levyt olivatkin maya kansan kirjoittamaa tekstiä?
Lehi soitti kännykällä Israeliin: "Terve terve! Kuinka siellä menee? Me ollaan lähestymässä jotain Amerikkaa ja ajateltiin ruveta siellä intiaaneiksi. Mitä? Et ymmärrä? Ei se mitään, kirjoitan kaiken levylle ja jemmaan maahan."
" ei ne suomalaiset evlutit tulevaisuudessa ymmärrä kuitenkaan asiasta mitään..."