Ei ne ole suomessa käyneet lähelläkään. Tainnut valtio maksaa peeärrästä vähän liian läpinäkyviä juttuja ?
http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/finlanddiary/
http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/finlanddiary/
Turvaa tilisi vahvistamalla puhelinnumerosi. Voit silloin palauttaa unohtuneen salasanan tekstiviestillä.
Näihin keskusteluihin ei ole vielä vastattu. Ole ensimmäinen.
Vastaukset 18
Vanhimmat
etteivät ole Suomessa? Ovat täällä parhaillaan.
http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/show.fcgi?category=110&conference=1500000000000129&posting=22000000008603997
Sen mitä minä Englantia ymmärrän ja ymmärrän ihan kohtuullisesti, kyllä tämä on ihan täysin Suomesta. Missähän lähiöpubissa tämänkin palstan avaaja on sivistyksensä saanut kun toisin väittää. Juttu on hyvää mainosta Suomelle.
Joo, jos ei tiedä edes että Suomi kirjoitetaan isolla S:llä niin parempi olisi jos ei kirjoittelisi julkisesti ollenkaan. Onneksi tuon jutun tekijät eivät ole tavannet näitä peräkamarin poikia. Niitä kyllä riittää.
tuohan on aivan loistava katsaus suomesta.Tarpeeksi kriittinen,mutta osaa ylistää oikeita asioita(koulutus ym.).
Miten tuosta voi saada käsityksen,että kaverit eivät olisi edes käyneet tutustumassa suomeen?
Tosin, jos viestin aloittaja on henkilö,joka ei ymmärrä tarpeeksi englantia tajutakseen "diaryn" sanoman ,niin varmasti jää epäselväksi(itselläkin tosin pari sanaa oli aivan hepreaa,vaikka e:n kirjoittanut enkusta).
hitto hyviä kuvia kuopiosta. En tiennytkään että
Kuopio ja sen ympäristö on näin kaunista.
Ei sitä ymmärrä arvostaa kun sen näkee joka
päivä samasta kulmasta.
Vaikka sitä sanotaa että kauneus on katsojan-
silmässä, niin pitäisi osata arvostaa omaa
ympäristöään.
Hyvä Suomi! Toivottavasti meitä osta kukaan.
Vaikka ruotsalaiset ostava yritys per viikko.
Ei ne meiltä luontoa saa. Paitsi Stora sai
Enson metsäomisuuden. Jatkoa tulee meinaa
ruotsalaisten puolesta.
Älkää yli- tai aliarvioiko Kaiserin artikkeleita. Jos Suomessa luette Hesarin kulttuurisivuja, Yhdysvaltain itärannikolla saattaisitte lukea Kaiserin artikkeleita laajemmasta valikoimasta huolimatta.
Artikkeli on ulkoasultaan myönteinen, kuten kaikki Kaiserin kirjoittamat jutut. Hänen tarkka lukijakuntansa löytää kyllä myös oheiset lausumat: "Small cities, however, have a disorganized feeling, perhaps reflecting the fact that Finland has no shortage of land, so buildings are scattered helter-skelter across an urban landscape. The gas is $5.50 a gallon; a Coke can cost $2."
Tossa jutussa tulee esiin mielenkiintoinen, ulkomaalaisen näkökulma suomesta.
Kui nii ei oo suomessa käynykkää? Menee ainaki muhun aivan täydestä...
Vaikka oli todella pitkä tarina Suomesta niin olisko joku niin kiltti että jaksais kääntää tämän meille suomeksi? Olisimme erittäin kiitollisia jos joku ihana ihminen viitsisi nähdä niin paljon vaivaa tämän eteen.
Anteeksi että tällaista pyydämme mutta meidän aikana kun ei koulussa kieliä opetettu.
Kiitos jo etukäteen!
Ihan hyvä idea tuo tekstin kääntäminen suomeksi. Asia vaan ei ole niin yksinkertainen, nimittäin mikäli koko teksti käännettäisiin tarvitaan lupa artikkelin kirjoittaneelta toimittajalta tai Washington Postilta, riippuen onko toimittaja luopunut tekijänoikeuksista ja siirtänyt ne lehdelle.
Et taida ymmärtää tuosta tekstistä mitään.
Ylläolevasta osoitelinkistä KUKA vaan voi sinne kirjoittaa MITÄVAAN että se siittäkin asiasta!
Mee ja kokeile jos et usko,minä kävin ja kirjoitin myös paskanjauhamisesta!
Ilmeisesti keskiluokkaisen Suomen mainostamiseksi tarkoitettu Washington Postin journalistit eivät tulleet ottaneeksi huomioon,että ajat ovat muuttuneet. Potemkinin kulisseja ei voi rakentaa internet-aikakaudella.
Tässä eräs näyte:
These are questions which a Finnish journalist cannot make to a representant of a Finnish oligarchy. Perhaps foreign journalists can make them and thus help to pave a way for a more open minded Finnish debate athmosphere:
-Why there cannot be a referendum about mandatory Swedish language education?
-Why president Halonen undersigned Finland's Language Act on Sweden's National Day? (6.6.2003)
-Why the Chairman of Language Act Committee mr. Pekka Hallberg recieved a high rank decoration from the State of Sweden having finished his work as a Chairman of Language Act Committee?
-Why secretary of Language Act Committee mister Sten Palmgren (Ministry of Justice) recieved 10 000 euro prize from a Swedish Foundation for his work as a civil servant in the Committee?("There is no corruption in Finland")
-Why freedom of choice is unthinkable in the language education in Finnish schools?
-Is mandatory Swedish language education politics or pedagogics in Finland?
-Why the quotas for Finnish speaking Finns are only 80 % in the business economics at the Finnish universities allthought they compose over 90 % of the total population of Finland?
-Why the Finns who want freedom of choice in the language education are called fascists and bigots in Finland?
-Why Swedish Popular Party is in the group of Liberals in the European Parliament allthought they are against freedom of choice in the language education and oppose equal opportunities in the higher education?
-Why Aland's autonomy is used as an excuse for the opression of Finnish speaking Alanders?
-Why Finland's minority politics cannot be harmonized with Sweden's minority politics?
Ne jutut on hyvii, mut suomalaisten antama palaute siel kommenttiosastos on ihan vit*n ärsyttävää. Olkaa kilttejä älkääkä enää kirjottako sinne kokonaisii kirjoi siitä onko mäkin vai hesen majoneesi parempaa tai ovatko ruotsalaiset vallanneet Suomen. Kohta tota juttusarjaa ei enää lue muut ku suomalaiset...
tämä Hesarin juttu!
http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/archive/news.asp?id=20031111IE1
Hirveesti kirjotuksia...
http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/finlanddiary/2005/05/may_23_today_we.html
some of the most liberated women in the world. Here, women even work in construction and road crews with the hot asphalt and even doing the grass cutting in the summer and landscape maintenance of the city. But then again, they may also be Russians on guest worker visas. I can't tell the difference between finns and russians when they're dressed in work clothes. Russian women tend to dress up much more than finnish women. Meaning, the Russian women will wear better makeup, nicer clothes and generally show more style. Finnish women like to keep it simple. But please don't make it sound as if Finland is the only country in the world with female leaders. Even Pakistan had a female prime minister. Also India, Latvia (or lithuainia) and a handful of others. Finland was not the first.
It is true, finland is huge, but nobody wants to live in most of it. This past weekend, my friends and I were saying that Finland is becoming a huge park. Compared to the rest of europe, Finland is like one large national park. Everyone is moving to the south, mainly to Helsinki and Espoo. Most of the land seems to be owned by the forest industry for their paper mills. You would think everyone would have a large house with 4 acres of land surrounding them, but the reality is that most people live in Row houses or in apartment buildings.
That is what makes living in finland difficult, its geography. You have sea to the west, sea to the south, Russia to the east so it might as well be a sea because visas are expensive and too much hassel, and the artic to the north. So we really feel like we live on an island very seperated from europe. The long winter nights also drive people mad contributing to the fact that finland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Finns have an extremely short memory that helps them survive in this land. They forget bad memories quickly. If you watch finnish movies and television, they rarely display winter scenes. They convince themselves that it is not really so long. The ones that do not succeed in this attempt suicide. Everyone in this country knows someone who has attempted suicide. That is what makes it such a great place to get away to if you just want to forget about the world.
Finland has been able to clean up their industries by doing something extremely simple. Outsourcing those industries to Russia and eastern europe. The major dirty work that goes into making phones, electronics, forestry products, etc.. those are done in other countries. Finland doesn't even make its own matches anymore.
I know that Finland has been ranked as the most competitive economy in the world, but I really find it hard to believe and so does the Helsinginsanomat which can be read in the article "Seven myths about finland". http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/archive/news.asp?id=20031111IE1
Unemployment is really high here. And last I heard, Finland is no longer number one in mobil phones per capita. When your land line costs you 20 euros per month, PLUS per minute charges no matter where you call... there really is no reason to have a land line phone when you can have a mobil phone of which an average bill is 20 or 30 euros per month. People in finland, and the rest of europe for that matter, don't realize that in other parts of the world, as in the states, a land line isn't very expensive and local calls are free.
Linux may have been a finnish invention, but it was based completely on UNIX which was an american invention.
Something that is amazing about finns is that even though they don't have a lot of money, they will spend most of it on the latest gadets. Most everyone in Finland makes around 20,000 euros per year, people with masters degrees, engineers make a maximum of 4,000 euros per year, and that's after many years of experience. The cost of living in Finland is probably 30 percent higher than in the US. So, if you walk into a finnish house, you will not feel like you have walked into an american house. A lot of their furniture will be hand me downs or they have just cashed in on a inheritence. Housing costs are the same in Tampere as they are in southern california.
And like I said before, when I am paying 30 to 50 percent income taxes and 20 percent (VAT) sales taxes, I find it difficult to call my health insurance and welfare benefits "free".
Finns and many others kick this word "FREE" around a lot. Free education. No, its not free, our taxes are paying for it. Free university, no, our taxes and industry partnerships are paying for it. If they would charge a little, maybe there would be more interesting research programs as in the states. But to be nice, Finland's university resources are INCREDIBLE compared to France, Spain or any of the other southern european countries. The exchange students from those countries can't believe their eyes. American students think the labs are a little under equipped but satisfactory.
This man, Pekka Himanen, says Finnish society is all inclusive. What a load of c**p. Finnish society is all inclusive of all higher educated finns. Highly educated finns do not mix with lower educated finns. Since they were 14, they divide their society among vocational schooler, high math students and low math students. They rarely mix with each other. And any minorities in the country are completely marginalized. But since it is impossible to not pay taxes, all EU citizens and permanent residents have a right to the welfare benefits. But if you're here on a worker visa and paying 50 percent taxes.. you have no right to welfare.
The biggest factor behind finnish success has been LUCK and excellent workmanship. They found a niche that was being ignored and they have milked it.
It was reported that even most unemployed mothers leave their children in day care centers. A fantastic idea here is the 3 year long maternity leave. But I must admit, for the employer, it is very difficult. They have to provide the first 3 months full salary and they have to find a replacement who after some time, will have to be fired because the mommy will come back to work. I have a friend who was working, then became pregnant. When she was nearing her third year of maternity leave, she became pregnant again, and the whole cycle repeats. How long can something like that be funded? My own family, my finnish wife just had our first child, and we are returning to California soon. SO her first year of maternity leave checks will help us a lot in California where I will be working as an engineer making 60,000 dollars per year (5,000/month). But you would be surprised at how easy it is to become accostumed to paying high taxes. That's just life.
Do you know that if you are self employed, the only pension you are entitled to is the one you create for yourself. You'll get nothing from the state. But its a different story for employees. Is that "all inclusive" finland? A big part of life in scandinavia is "envy". People here envy successful people. They talk about them behind their backs. Everybody guns for the top dog.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying finland is a horrible place to live, it just isn't for me. The snow service is especially horrible. Slippery sidewalks and roads are simply accepted, so falling is accepted as part of life. I just can't live that way. When I slipped and broke my leg, there were people around me and nobody helped me get up. I think that Finns have come to depend so much on their welfare system, that they have forgotton how to help anyone themselves. They simply expect the government to take care of it.
But Pekka is right, you cannot compare contries simply by GDP. It was stated that Finns pay 45% in taxes and americans pay 25%. Does that include VAT(sales tax)? I doubt it. So, using my own situation of $60,000/yr, I will pay $300 per month health insurance. So health insurance is 6%. 7% pension. Higher education, mine cost $3000 per year (I stayed at home with mom and dad like a smart kid). So I finished in 4 years, $12,000. How do I put this into the percentages? My pre-university education was also free.
USA Finland
Income tax 25% 45%
Health ins 6%
Pension 7%
------------------------------
38% 45%
Sales tax 8% 20%
------------------------------
46% 65%
Okay, now it bothers me how much taxes I pay. Especially when I see the number of drunks and free loaders living it up in Finland.
Its true though, most finns do not want to be rich. And I don't think most americans want to be rich either. But our definitions of comfortable and independent are very different. Americans with families do not feel comfortable and independant unless they have a house with over 100 sq meters (1000 sq ft), they must own a suv or minivan to comfortably travel with the kids, and everything else varies. Finns can cram their families into a tiny car and live in a 75 sq meter house comfortably and generally feel they are living a great life. And everything in their house will be very simple and gathered over many years of saving up.
If you have ever watched EUROVISION, it is a wonder that this article states that finland produces many great musicians. Finland has repeatedly failed to even qualify for Eurovision over the years.
The brain washing campaign of the government in Finland has been extremely successful. And Finns are great at supporting their own. They will pay 3 euros for a finnish grown cucumber even though it is next to a 50 cent cucumber from Spain. They buy finnish brands no matter how tasteless they are and will only say great things about anything finnish. It is for these reasons that you must be sceptical of all statistics in finland. They do not like to air their dirty laundry as americans do.
Finns are desperate for respect and recognition, after having been in the shadows of Sweden and Russia for the past 500 years. Finns like to say that their culture is 1000 years old, but.. they refer to the Sami culture, which is a completely different blood line of shorter, darker people. They still show re-runs of the 1995 ice hockey world championship where Finland won top prize. How nostalgic can you be?
A funny thing about religion. They say there is no relgion in school and that no politician says "God Bless Finland", but the fact is that all holidays in finland are from the Lutheran religion, and it has been reported in the helsinginsanomat that the lutheran church is extremely favored by taxes. Other religions were even called second class religions. But generally, finns are not religious and consider people who go to church to be "strange". And I’m sure they study religion in school because I have Bahai friends who go to the local school to give classes. I just read that there is 12 years of obligatory religion lessons. Religion lessons are for learning about your religion. That’s how it works everywhere in the world. Nobody worships during religion lessons, well, maybe a little.
Lots of people in finland own hunting guns. I even know of a guy that shot at burglars running away from his house. Hand guns are rare. Which I think is a good thing. That's something I really admire and enjoy in europe. I rather be robbed with a knife than with a gun.
Finns generally do not like or accept immigrants. But they are coming none the less and I predict finland will have a serious civil upheavel in the future as middle europe is currently having with their far right groups.
Finland does have some of the most liberated women in the world. Here, women even work in construction and road crews with the hot asphalt and even doing the grass cutting in the summer and landscape maintenance of the city. But then again, they may also be Russians on guest worker visas. I can't tell the difference between finns and russians when they're dressed in work clothes. Russian women tend to dress up much more than finnish women. Meaning, the Russian women will wear better makeup, nicer clothes and generally show more style. Finnish women like to keep it simple. But please don't make it sound as if Finland is the only country in the world with female leaders. Even Pakistan had a female prime minister. Also India, Latvia (or lithuainia) and a handful of others. Finland was not the first.
It is true, finland is huge, but nobody wants to live in most of it. This past weekend, my friends and I were saying that Finland is becoming a huge park. Compared to the rest of europe, Finland is like one large national park. Everyone is moving to the south, mainly to Helsinki and Espoo. Most of the land seems to be owned by the forest industry for their paper mills. You would think everyone would have a large house with 4 acres of land surrounding them, but the reality is that most people live in Row houses or in apartment buildings.
That is what makes living in finland difficult, its geography. You have sea to the west, sea to the south, Russia to the east so it might as well be a sea because visas are expensive and too much hassel, and the artic to the north. So we really feel like we live on an island very seperated from europe. The long winter nights also drive people mad contributing to the fact that finland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Finns have an extremely short memory that helps them survive in this land. They forget bad memories quickly. If you watch finnish movies and television, they rarely display winter scenes. They convince themselves that it is not really so long. The ones that do not succeed in this attempt suicide. Everyone in this country knows someone who has attempted suicide. That is what makes it such a great place to get away to if you just want to forget about the world.
Finland has been able to clean up their industries by doing something extremely simple. Outsourcing those industries to Russia and eastern europe. The major dirty work that goes into making phones, electronics, forestry products, etc.. those are done in other countries. Finland doesn't even make its own matches anymore.
I know that Finland has been ranked as the most competitive economy in the world, but I really find it hard to believe and so does the Helsinginsanomat which can be read in the article "Seven myths about finland". http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/archive/news.asp?id=20031111IE1
Unemployment is really high here. And last I heard, Finland is no longer number one in mobil phones per capita. When your land line costs you 20 euros per month, PLUS per minute charges no matter where you call... there really is no reason to have a land line phone when you can have a mobil phone of which an average bill is 20 or 30 euros per month. People in finland, and the rest of europe for that matter, don't realize that in other parts of the world, as in the states, a land line isn't very expensive and local calls are free.
Linux may have been a finnish invention, but it was based completely on UNIX which was an american invention.
Something that is amazing about finns is that even though they don't have a lot of money, they will spend most of it on the latest gadets. Most everyone in Finland makes around 20,000 euros per year, people with masters degrees, engineers make a maximum of 4,000 euros per year, and that's after many years of experience. The cost of living in Finland is probably 30 percent higher than in the US. So, if you walk into a finnish house, you will not feel like you have walked into an american house. A lot of their furniture will be hand me downs or they have just cashed in on a inheritence. Housing costs are the same in Tampere as they are in southern california.
And like I said before, when I am paying 30 to 50 percent income taxes and 20 percent (VAT) sales taxes, I find it difficult to call my health insurance and welfare benefits "free".
Finns and many others kick this word "FREE" around a lot. Free education. No, its not free, our taxes are paying for it. Free university, no, our taxes and industry partnerships are paying for it. If they would charge a little, maybe there would be more interesting research programs as in the states. But to be nice, Finland's university resources are INCREDIBLE compared to France, Spain or any of the other southern european countries. The exchange students from those countries can't believe their eyes. American students think the labs are a little under equipped but satisfactory.
This man, Pekka Himanen, says Finnish society is all inclusive. What a load of c**p. Finnish society is all inclusive of all higher educated finns. Highly educated finns do not mix with lower educated finns. Since they were 14, they divide their society among vocational schooler, high math students and low math students. They rarely mix with each other. And any minorities in the country are completely marginalized. But since it is impossible to not pay taxes, all EU citizens and permanent residents have a right to the welfare benefits. But if you're here on a worker visa and paying 50 percent taxes.. you have no right to welfare.
The biggest factor behind finnish success has been LUCK and excellent workmanship. They found a niche that was being ignored and they have milked it.
It was reported that even most unemployed mothers leave their children in day care centers. A fantastic idea here is the 3 year long maternity leave. But I must admit, for the employer, it is very difficult. They have to provide the first 3 months full salary and they have to find a replacement who after some time, will have to be fired because the mommy will come back to work. I have a friend who was working, then became pregnant. When she was nearing her third year of maternity leave, she became pregnant again, and the whole cycle repeats. How long can something like that be funded? My own family, my finnish wife just had our first child, and we are returning to California soon. SO her first year of maternity leave checks will help us a lot in California where I will be working as an engineer making 60,000 dollars per year (5,000/month). But you would be surprised at how easy it is to become accostumed to paying high taxes. That's just life.
Do you know that if you are self employed, the only pension you are entitled to is the one you create for yourself. You'll get nothing from the state. But its a different story for employees. Is that "all inclusive" finland? A big part of life in scandinavia is "envy". People here envy successful people. They talk about them behind their backs. Everybody guns for the top dog.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying finland is a horrible place to live, it just isn't for me. The snow service is especially horrible. Slippery sidewalks and roads are simply accepted, so falling is accepted as part of life. I just can't live that way. When I slipped and broke my leg, there were people around me and nobody helped me get up. I think that Finns have come to depend so much on their welfare system, that they have forgotton how to help anyone themselves. They simply expect the government to take care of it.
But Pekka is right, you cannot compare contries simply by GDP. It was stated that Finns pay 45% in taxes and americans pay 25%. Does that include VAT(sales tax)? I doubt it. So, using my own situation of $60,000/yr, I will pay $300 per month health insurance. So health insurance is 6%. 7% pension. Higher education, mine cost $3000 per year (I stayed at home with mom and dad like a smart kid). So I finished in 4 years, $12,000. How do I put this into the percentages? My pre-university education was also free.
USA Finland
Income tax 25% 45%
Health ins 6%
Pension 7%
------------------------------
38% 45%
Sales tax 8% 20%
------------------------------
46% 65%
Okay, now it bothers me how much taxes I pay. Especially when I see the number of drunks and free loaders living it up in Finland.
Its true though, most finns do not want to be rich. And I don't think most americans want to be rich either. But our definitions of comfortable and independent are very different. Americans with families do not feel comfortable and independant unless they have a house with over 100 sq meters (1000 sq ft), they must own a suv or minivan to comfortably travel with the kids, and everything else varies. Finns can cram their families into a tiny car and live in a 75 sq meter house comfortably and generally feel they are living a great life. And everything in their house will be very simple and gathered over many years of saving up.
If you have ever watched EUROVISION, it is a wonder that this article states that finland produces many great musicians. Finland has repeatedly failed to even qualify for Eurovision over the years.
The brain washing campaign of the government in Finland has been extremely successful. And Finns are great at supporting their own. They will pay 3 euros for a finnish grown cucumber even though it is next to a 50 cent cucumber from Spain. They buy finnish brands no matter how tasteless they are and will only say great things about anything finnish. It is for these reasons that you must be sceptical of all statistics in finland. They do not like to air their dirty laundry as americans do.
Finns are desperate for respect and recognition, after having been in the shadows of Sweden and Russia for the past 500 years. Finns like to say that their culture is 1000 years old, but.. they refer to the Sami culture, which is a completely different blood line of shorter, darker people. They still show re-runs of the 1995 ice hockey world championship where Finland won top prize. How nostalgic can you be?
A funny thing about religion. They say there is no relgion in school and that no politician says "God Bless Finland", but the fact is that all holidays in finland are from the Lutheran religion, and it has been reported in the helsinginsanomat that the lutheran church is extremely favored by taxes. Other religions were even called second class religions. But generally, finns are not religious and consider people who go to church to be "strange".
Lots of people in finland own hunting guns. I even know of a guy that shot at burglars running away from his house. Hand guns are rare. Which I think is a good thing. That's something I really admire and enjoy in europe. I rather be robbed with a knife than with a gun.
Finns generally do not like or accept immigrants. But they are coming none the less and I predict finland will have a serious civil upheaval in the future as middle europe is currently having with their far right groups.
Hi, I'm a mexican american living in finland for the
past 3 years. As Michel had stated earlier, it is
VERY difficult to find a job in finland, especially if
you are a foreigner. I myself even with a bachelors in
mechanical engineering ended up working in a english
preschool. In this country, if you are a foreigner,
everyone basically assumes that you are a refugee.
Especially if you have dark features. Gypsies aren't
even considered human. I would be surprised if they
are accounted for in the census. They say gypsies
don't go to school, but they don't look like gypsies
until they are married, at that point, they decide
whether or not they will wear their traditional
dresses and from then on, they wear them all the time.
But let me tell you the true reason why finnish
students do so well on tests. Teachers are a small
part of the reason, the big reason is CULTURE. That's
right, there is nothing more important to a finnish
family than the education of their children. The
parents talk about their children's studies all the
time, they help their children study, they proof read,
they make special tests for them, they send them to
extra intensive courses just before the big end of
year exams. You see, in this country, you're either
educated or you are "amatti" un-educated.
Finland has a holiday called Vappu on May 1st. On
this day, everyone who graduated from highschool (not
vocational school) wears a white hat. By law, you
only have to attend school up to the 9th grade.
People begin schooling at the age of 7 years old,
therefore being a bit more mature. At the age of 14,
they are expected to decide if they will do
highschool(who can go on to university) or vocational
school(to learn a trade like plumbing, janitor, road
repair, truck driving,super blue collar work). Then
the kids in highschool need to decide if they will
pursue high math(for engineering and accounting) or
low math(for liberal arts, hotel and tourism, etc..).
At this point, the grand divide begins. Most students
of high math only mingle with other high math
students. Low math only mingle with low math students
and the same with vocational school students. Then,
the students who go off to university rarely would
date or even imagine marrying someone who did not have
a university degree. They call the people who go off
to junior college(vocational school) "AMMIS" and it's
not a compliment.
So this is one big reason for why they do so well in
school. In the schools, there is absolutely no
respect for teachers. They call their teachers by
their first names or they make up degrading nicknames
for them and say it to their face. Many of the
finnish teachers that I know go off and get drunk just
as much as any teachers I know in Los Angeles.
Actually, since getting drunk at a party in finland is
almost "required", I am sure Finnish teachers are
drunk more often.
Another major factor has to be the fact that most
finns only have one child. So this child receives a
lot of attention and investment. The low birth rate
also aids in their low child mortality rate. It's
easier to hit a target with a rifle than with a
machine gun.
I seriously doubt that the finnish teachers deserve
most of the credit. It's like a doctor in Florida
taking credit for the great tan everybody in Florida
has. It's the culture!
At this moment, I have completed my masters of
Material Science in the University of Tampere. This
has to be the easiest system in the world. In all of
my classes, there was only a final exam for each
class. Rarely did most students ever show up to
lectures. Copies of old exams are available in the
department offices. And the new exams tend to repeat
the same questions as the old ones. So it is nearly
IMPOSSIBLE to fail an exam. But it is also VERY VERY
difficult to get a perfect or near perfect score.
Compared to my Bachelors from Cal Poly Pomona where we
had almost weekly quizes, mid-terms, then final exams
plus homework that was a part of your grade. But
maybe at masters level everywhere in the world, life
gets this easy.
They also practice in highschool by using many old
exams.
In Los Angeles, in my schools, that was always
considered cheating. If anyone was caught with old
exams in the university, something bad happened to
them. And teachers were not allowed to make copies of
books of anything. We had to buy them or check them
out of the library. But in europe, it is not illegal
to copy something if it is for educational purposes.
That is why we do not need to buy books in europe for
univeristy courses. The teachers give us copies of
books and notes and handouts to study from.
So these are some of the factors that go into those
high scores. So if you want those high scores for
your children, now you know what you have to do.
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Kauankokahan Hesarilta meni löytää sopiva Eddie ja sepustaa pitkä juttu..