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Hyvät kuvat täytyy myöntää.Mitä nämä puhuvat nämä kuvat? Kuvat kertoo mitä ne "sankarit" Neukut kävi raakalaismaisesti siviilien kimpussa kun muuhun ei pystyneet.

historia kätkee paljon totu... kirjoitti:

Hyvät kuvat täytyy myöntää.Mitä nämä puhuvat nämä kuvat? Kuvat kertoo mitä ne "sankarit" Neukut kävi raakalaismaisesti siviilien kimpussa kun muuhun ei pystyneet.

.......tappoi sivistyneesti 4000 siviiliä keskitysleireille. Nälkään.

............ kirjoitti:

.......tappoi sivistyneesti 4000 siviiliä keskitysleireille. Nälkään.

tuomittu!

Finnish occupation of Karelia in 1941 - 1944

In 1941-1944 Finnish army occupied eastern Karelia, which never belonged either Finlandor Sweden, in composition of which was located Finland to 1809. In Karelia was established the regime of terror, directed against the nefinnoyazychnogo population of this territory.

Content [убрать]
1 the concentration camps
2 the photo documents
3 pursuit of the Finnish war criminals
4 bibliographies
5 notes
6 cm. also



[to guide] the concentration camps
The first camp for the Soviet citizens of Slav origin, including women and children, was created on 24 October, 1941, in Petrozavodsk.

The purpose of the creation of Finnish concentration camps was "ethnic cleaning": the destruction of Russian population in the Russian region, occupied by Finnish army [ 1 ] [ 2 ][ 3 ].

Number of prisoners in the Finnish concentration camps in Karelia:

13 400 - on 31 December, 1941
21 984 - on 1 July, 1942
15 241 - on 1 January, 1943
14 917 - on 1 January, 1944
In all in the territory of the Karelia occupied acted 13 Finnish concentration camps, through which passed 30 thousand people. About third of them perished. Into this statistics do not enter the data about the prisoner-of-war camps, the first of which began to create even during June 1941 and regime in which differed little from the regime of concentration camps.

In their letter home on 17 April, 1942, well-known Finnish political figure and deputy of Seym To vyayne Of voyonmaa (V.Voionmaa) wrote[ with 4 ]: "... of 20 thousandth Russian populations Of eenislinna, citizen of 19 thousands are located in the concentration camps and thousand on the freedom. The nourishment of those, who be in the camp, very you will not praise. The horse corpses of two-day remoteness go in the food. Russian children dig up slop-containers in the searches for the food withdrawals, rejected by Finnish soldiers. What would say the Red Cross in genoa, if he would know about similar... "

The level of mortality was very high because of the poor nourishment in the Finnish concentration camps, in 1942 it was even higher than in the German concentration camps (13.7% against 10.5%)[ 5 ]. According to Finnish data in all "migratory" camps from February 1942 through June 1944 died from 4 000 (approximately 90% of which in 1942)[ 6 ] to 4600 [ 7 ] persons, or 3409 people on the personal lists, while according to the evidence of former prisoner Of a.P.Kolomenskogo (in responsibility of which it entered to export and to zakhoranivat' the corpses of dead persons from the "migratory" camp №e) only in 8 months from May through December 1942 and only in this camp perished 1 014 people[ 8 ].

The prisoners of Finnish concentration camps, also as German, mastered "working duty". To the forced works they directed prisoners from the 15- summer age, and in the "working" camp in Kutizhme - even 14- summer adolescents [ 9 ], the health status they were not considered[ 10 ]. Usually workday began 7 it was hour it continued to 18-19 it was hour, on the timber cuttings to 16 hour day with the hour summer or two-hour winter with interruption to the dinner[ 11 ]. Since the men during the first days of war were called, the majority of "work force" in the camps composed woman and children. In 1941-1942 the work of the prisoners of camps they did not pay, after the defeat of Germans in the environs of Stalingrad they began to pay from 3 to 7 Finnish stamps during the day, but directly before the conclusion of truce still more - to 20 brands (from the significative indications Of a.P.Kolomenskogo)[ 12 ].

Special hardness with respect to the prisoners was characterized by the protection of "migratory" camp № 2 (unofficially considered as the "camp of death" - into this camp they directed "insufficient loyal" prisoners) and its commandant, Finnish officer solovaara (it was Finnish. Solovaara), censures of which as war criminal after war unsuccessfully attained the Soviet regime. During May 1942 it on the construction of camp arranged exponential the slaughter of prisoners, whose entire fault consisted in the fact that they requested alms. For the attempts to deviate from timber cuttings or to forego the works Finnish soldiers thrashed prisoners to death on the eyes of all workers so that, as Finns expressed themselves, "others would learn"[ 13 ].


Photograph of the concentration camp (so-called "migratory" camp), which was being located in Petrozavodsk in the region of transfer exchange on The olonetskoy side. Summer of 1944[ 14 ]. Without the commentaries.According to the information, obtained by the Soviet extraordinary state Commission of Inquiry of the crimes of Finnish occupiers in 1941 - 1944, by Finnish occupiers practiced the medical experiences above the prisoners of concentration camps and kleymleniye of prisoners, moreover in contrast to the German Nazis Finns not only made tattooings to prisoners, but also they stamped by their hardened iron. Just as Germans, Finns dealt in slaves from the "eastern territories", selling the by force driven away to the works Soviet citizens for their use in the agriculture[ 2 ], i.e., in Finland actually it practiced slave trade.

In all according to the data k. A. Morozov for the years 1941 - 1944 in Karelia perished about 14 000 innocent civilians. Into this number do not enter the prisoners of war; however, should be considered the following circumstance - up to 1942 in RKKA - WORKERS' AND PEASANTS' RED ARMY actually was absent the united document, which certifies the personality of series and noncommissioned officers (Red Army book). Therefore both the Germans and Finns, added to the prisoners of war of absolutely all persons, at least approximately falling under the call-up age. If we in this case consider that the overwhelming majority of rural population in THE USSR passports did not also have - become intelligible the completely fantastic numbers of "those returning into the captivity" and respectively to the number of "prisoners of war", who be killwas in the camps, should be carried a big enough quantity of citizen.


[to guide] the photo documents

Finnish officer, who tells before the meeting the Russian civil inhabitants in Petrozavodsk on 28 July 1944. Many in Finland consider that the occupation of Karelia appeared precisely thus.These photographs from the site Mannerheim's line were made by a Finnish sergeant Tauno Kyakhonenom in 1942:

Photo is made near Medvezh'egorska in the spring of 1942. For the information: active war shooting in this region ended at the end the November- beginning of December 1941 of year.
Photo is made in the summer of 1942 under Olontsom. For the information: front line at that moment passed less than a hundred kilometers southern, on Sviri. Actions of Finnish soldiers - without the commentaries.
Russian soldiers in winter 1941/42 it is annual. On the official version - be killeden in combat. Without the commentaries.

[to guide] the pursuit of the Finnish war criminals
No one of the Finnish war criminals prior to the beginning of 2007 carried punishment precisely for the crimes against humanity and the military crimes, in the difference, for example, from the Nazi war criminals and their accomplices from the republics of the Baltic States and Ukraine.

According to the data of Finnish researcher kh.Seppyal [ 2 ], after the end of war the leader of allied investigation commission A. A. Zhdanov communicated on 19 October, 1944, to the prime minister of Finland U. Castren the list, in which he was registered only 61 people, whom the Soviet side required to detain for the military crimes. From the persons, enumerated in the list besides the military commandants of 34 people there were on the service in the staff of the Arms Forces Administration, in essence in the concentration camps, and six people in the prisoner-of-war camps. Along the list from October 1944 through December 1947 Finnish authorities delayed 45 people, from whom 30 were freed after the absence of fault (i.e., their fault it was inevident for the Finnish authorities), 14 were punished by the insignificant periods of the deprivation of freedom for the concrete criminal to prestupleniya(vskore they were freed) and one - by penalty. Rest so not were found, Finnish authorities referred to the "vagueness" for them list, and Soviet side did not insist on its refinement, although it had for this all capabilities. In particular, the former military commandants v. A. kotilaynen A. V. arayuri after war they left from Finland. Their names were also in the list, they charged them with the unequal distribution of products, (that it led to death from the hunger and the diseases of many prisoners of concentration camps) and the use of child labor. From both charges it was taken after their return to Finland in 1948 and 1949. On the basis of Finnish documents both of them were charged with the racism, but it is already at the end of the 40th annual Finnish jurists they did not estimate this as crime. In the opinion of the doctor of right To khannu Rautkallio, there was any composition of crime whatever in the essence not: "Pravda with respect to the citizen must be searched for between the extremes. There, of course, there were deviations, but the commission Of kupriyanova in its report declared criminal almost everything that made Finns ".

Also, using the case, Soviet side required delivery 22 persons, in essence former Russian yielded, that were being charged with the "counterrevolutionary activity". In this case Finnish side did not begin to refer to the "vagueness" of list and found 20 people (two they had time to be hidden); they were arrested and transmitted to the Soviet regime. In their number proved to be one accomplice of Finnish occupiers, citizen OF THE USSR.

The Finnish war criminals and their accomplices, who proved to be themselves in the captivity or delayed by Soviet military authorities, judged Soviet tribunals. They all obtained real periods and we could return to the native land only after amnesty, declared by Khrushchev in 1954.

In 1999 Finland required from the procuratorship of republic Karelia to give out to Finnish side on the list of the veteran- partisans, whom in Finland "they will judge by court of competent jurisdiction". [ 15 ]

[to guide] the bibliography
Moroeov K.A. Kareli4 in the years great Otecestvenno1 war 1941 - 1945. Petrozavodsk, 1975.
S. S. Avday nemetskiye and Finnish of camp for the Soviet prisoners of war in Finland and in the temporarily occupied territory of Karelia 1941 - 1944 g.g. Petrozavodsk, 2001.
Sergey ANCHUKOV. FINNISH FORESHORTENING. //"Literaturnaya Rossiya"№y8 04.05.2001
Aleksey ukkone. As to be protected from the "social of zashchity"?//"Kareliya" of №shch9 31.05.2001
In the fire of the occupational regime
Eyno PIETOLA. Prisoners of war in Finland 1941-1944.

ei koskaan kirjoitti:

tuomittu!

Finnish occupation of Karelia in 1941 - 1944

In 1941-1944 Finnish army occupied eastern Karelia, which never belonged either Finlandor Sweden, in composition of which was located Finland to 1809. In Karelia was established the regime of terror, directed against the nefinnoyazychnogo population of this territory.

Content [убрать]
1 the concentration camps
2 the photo documents
3 pursuit of the Finnish war criminals
4 bibliographies
5 notes
6 cm. also



[to guide] the concentration camps
The first camp for the Soviet citizens of Slav origin, including women and children, was created on 24 October, 1941, in Petrozavodsk.

The purpose of the creation of Finnish concentration camps was "ethnic cleaning": the destruction of Russian population in the Russian region, occupied by Finnish army [ 1 ] [ 2 ][ 3 ].

Number of prisoners in the Finnish concentration camps in Karelia:

13 400 - on 31 December, 1941
21 984 - on 1 July, 1942
15 241 - on 1 January, 1943
14 917 - on 1 January, 1944
In all in the territory of the Karelia occupied acted 13 Finnish concentration camps, through which passed 30 thousand people. About third of them perished. Into this statistics do not enter the data about the prisoner-of-war camps, the first of which began to create even during June 1941 and regime in which differed little from the regime of concentration camps.

In their letter home on 17 April, 1942, well-known Finnish political figure and deputy of Seym To vyayne Of voyonmaa (V.Voionmaa) wrote[ with 4 ]: "... of 20 thousandth Russian populations Of eenislinna, citizen of 19 thousands are located in the concentration camps and thousand on the freedom. The nourishment of those, who be in the camp, very you will not praise. The horse corpses of two-day remoteness go in the food. Russian children dig up slop-containers in the searches for the food withdrawals, rejected by Finnish soldiers. What would say the Red Cross in genoa, if he would know about similar... "

The level of mortality was very high because of the poor nourishment in the Finnish concentration camps, in 1942 it was even higher than in the German concentration camps (13.7% against 10.5%)[ 5 ]. According to Finnish data in all "migratory" camps from February 1942 through June 1944 died from 4 000 (approximately 90% of which in 1942)[ 6 ] to 4600 [ 7 ] persons, or 3409 people on the personal lists, while according to the evidence of former prisoner Of a.P.Kolomenskogo (in responsibility of which it entered to export and to zakhoranivat' the corpses of dead persons from the "migratory" camp №e) only in 8 months from May through December 1942 and only in this camp perished 1 014 people[ 8 ].

The prisoners of Finnish concentration camps, also as German, mastered "working duty". To the forced works they directed prisoners from the 15- summer age, and in the "working" camp in Kutizhme - even 14- summer adolescents [ 9 ], the health status they were not considered[ 10 ]. Usually workday began 7 it was hour it continued to 18-19 it was hour, on the timber cuttings to 16 hour day with the hour summer or two-hour winter with interruption to the dinner[ 11 ]. Since the men during the first days of war were called, the majority of "work force" in the camps composed woman and children. In 1941-1942 the work of the prisoners of camps they did not pay, after the defeat of Germans in the environs of Stalingrad they began to pay from 3 to 7 Finnish stamps during the day, but directly before the conclusion of truce still more - to 20 brands (from the significative indications Of a.P.Kolomenskogo)[ 12 ].

Special hardness with respect to the prisoners was characterized by the protection of "migratory" camp № 2 (unofficially considered as the "camp of death" - into this camp they directed "insufficient loyal" prisoners) and its commandant, Finnish officer solovaara (it was Finnish. Solovaara), censures of which as war criminal after war unsuccessfully attained the Soviet regime. During May 1942 it on the construction of camp arranged exponential the slaughter of prisoners, whose entire fault consisted in the fact that they requested alms. For the attempts to deviate from timber cuttings or to forego the works Finnish soldiers thrashed prisoners to death on the eyes of all workers so that, as Finns expressed themselves, "others would learn"[ 13 ].


Photograph of the concentration camp (so-called "migratory" camp), which was being located in Petrozavodsk in the region of transfer exchange on The olonetskoy side. Summer of 1944[ 14 ]. Without the commentaries.According to the information, obtained by the Soviet extraordinary state Commission of Inquiry of the crimes of Finnish occupiers in 1941 - 1944, by Finnish occupiers practiced the medical experiences above the prisoners of concentration camps and kleymleniye of prisoners, moreover in contrast to the German Nazis Finns not only made tattooings to prisoners, but also they stamped by their hardened iron. Just as Germans, Finns dealt in slaves from the "eastern territories", selling the by force driven away to the works Soviet citizens for their use in the agriculture[ 2 ], i.e., in Finland actually it practiced slave trade.

In all according to the data k. A. Morozov for the years 1941 - 1944 in Karelia perished about 14 000 innocent civilians. Into this number do not enter the prisoners of war; however, should be considered the following circumstance - up to 1942 in RKKA - WORKERS' AND PEASANTS' RED ARMY actually was absent the united document, which certifies the personality of series and noncommissioned officers (Red Army book). Therefore both the Germans and Finns, added to the prisoners of war of absolutely all persons, at least approximately falling under the call-up age. If we in this case consider that the overwhelming majority of rural population in THE USSR passports did not also have - become intelligible the completely fantastic numbers of "those returning into the captivity" and respectively to the number of "prisoners of war", who be killwas in the camps, should be carried a big enough quantity of citizen.


[to guide] the photo documents

Finnish officer, who tells before the meeting the Russian civil inhabitants in Petrozavodsk on 28 July 1944. Many in Finland consider that the occupation of Karelia appeared precisely thus.These photographs from the site Mannerheim's line were made by a Finnish sergeant Tauno Kyakhonenom in 1942:

Photo is made near Medvezh'egorska in the spring of 1942. For the information: active war shooting in this region ended at the end the November- beginning of December 1941 of year.
Photo is made in the summer of 1942 under Olontsom. For the information: front line at that moment passed less than a hundred kilometers southern, on Sviri. Actions of Finnish soldiers - without the commentaries.
Russian soldiers in winter 1941/42 it is annual. On the official version - be killeden in combat. Without the commentaries.

[to guide] the pursuit of the Finnish war criminals
No one of the Finnish war criminals prior to the beginning of 2007 carried punishment precisely for the crimes against humanity and the military crimes, in the difference, for example, from the Nazi war criminals and their accomplices from the republics of the Baltic States and Ukraine.

According to the data of Finnish researcher kh.Seppyal [ 2 ], after the end of war the leader of allied investigation commission A. A. Zhdanov communicated on 19 October, 1944, to the prime minister of Finland U. Castren the list, in which he was registered only 61 people, whom the Soviet side required to detain for the military crimes. From the persons, enumerated in the list besides the military commandants of 34 people there were on the service in the staff of the Arms Forces Administration, in essence in the concentration camps, and six people in the prisoner-of-war camps. Along the list from October 1944 through December 1947 Finnish authorities delayed 45 people, from whom 30 were freed after the absence of fault (i.e., their fault it was inevident for the Finnish authorities), 14 were punished by the insignificant periods of the deprivation of freedom for the concrete criminal to prestupleniya(vskore they were freed) and one - by penalty. Rest so not were found, Finnish authorities referred to the "vagueness" for them list, and Soviet side did not insist on its refinement, although it had for this all capabilities. In particular, the former military commandants v. A. kotilaynen A. V. arayuri after war they left from Finland. Their names were also in the list, they charged them with the unequal distribution of products, (that it led to death from the hunger and the diseases of many prisoners of concentration camps) and the use of child labor. From both charges it was taken after their return to Finland in 1948 and 1949. On the basis of Finnish documents both of them were charged with the racism, but it is already at the end of the 40th annual Finnish jurists they did not estimate this as crime. In the opinion of the doctor of right To khannu Rautkallio, there was any composition of crime whatever in the essence not: "Pravda with respect to the citizen must be searched for between the extremes. There, of course, there were deviations, but the commission Of kupriyanova in its report declared criminal almost everything that made Finns ".

Also, using the case, Soviet side required delivery 22 persons, in essence former Russian yielded, that were being charged with the "counterrevolutionary activity". In this case Finnish side did not begin to refer to the "vagueness" of list and found 20 people (two they had time to be hidden); they were arrested and transmitted to the Soviet regime. In their number proved to be one accomplice of Finnish occupiers, citizen OF THE USSR.

The Finnish war criminals and their accomplices, who proved to be themselves in the captivity or delayed by Soviet military authorities, judged Soviet tribunals. They all obtained real periods and we could return to the native land only after amnesty, declared by Khrushchev in 1954.

In 1999 Finland required from the procuratorship of republic Karelia to give out to Finnish side on the list of the veteran- partisans, whom in Finland "they will judge by court of competent jurisdiction". [ 15 ]

[to guide] the bibliography
Moroeov K.A. Kareli4 in the years great Otecestvenno1 war 1941 - 1945. Petrozavodsk, 1975.
S. S. Avday nemetskiye and Finnish of camp for the Soviet prisoners of war in Finland and in the temporarily occupied territory of Karelia 1941 - 1944 g.g. Petrozavodsk, 2001.
Sergey ANCHUKOV. FINNISH FORESHORTENING. //"Literaturnaya Rossiya"№y8 04.05.2001
Aleksey ukkone. As to be protected from the "social of zashchity"?//"Kareliya" of №shch9 31.05.2001
In the fire of the occupational regime
Eyno PIETOLA. Prisoners of war in Finland 1941-1944.

Näitä vielä näkee vaikka historian lehdet kertoo ihan toista.Venäjälläkin on jo kirjoitettu "päivitetty"versio historiasta ja siellä on mainilat ja muut kerrottu vihdoin niin kuin ne tapahtui.Tiltumaista soopaa jota on nähty ja kuultu tsorry vaa ei noita valheita kukaa usko.

............ kirjoitti:

.......tappoi sivistyneesti 4000 siviiliä keskitysleireille. Nälkään.

Suomi ei tappanut viattomia siviilejä "sankaripartisaanien"tapaan eikä suorittanut siviilikohteiden terroripommituksia kuten n-liitto teki vuosina 39-44.Meidän armeija seisoo tekojensa takana eikä meitä eroitettu kansainliitosta kuten kävi neuvostoliiton.

uskotkotkotkotkotkotko kirjoitti:

Näitä vielä näkee vaikka historian lehdet kertoo ihan toista.Venäjälläkin on jo kirjoitettu "päivitetty"versio historiasta ja siellä on mainilat ja muut kerrottu vihdoin niin kuin ne tapahtui.Tiltumaista soopaa jota on nähty ja kuultu tsorry vaa ei noita valheita kukaa usko.

Tottahan tuo oli. Suomalaisiakin keskitysleirivartijoita tuomittiin sotarikoksista, dokumentit löydät sota-arkistosta jos kiinnostaa. Tuomitsematta jäivät vain keskitysleirien perustajat, eli ne jotka niistä määräyksen antoivat, Mannerheim esikuntineen.

tämä tästä kirjoitti:

Suomi ei tappanut viattomia siviilejä "sankaripartisaanien"tapaan eikä suorittanut siviilikohteiden terroripommituksia kuten n-liitto teki vuosina 39-44.Meidän armeija seisoo tekojensa takana eikä meitä eroitettu kansainliitosta kuten kävi neuvostoliiton.

"Suomi ei tappanut viattomia siviilejä "sankaripartisaanien"tapaan eikä suorittanut siviilikohteiden terroripommituksia kuten n-liitto teki vuosina 39-44."

Montako ihmistä kuoli partisaanien uhreina ja terroripommituksissa? Vertaa sitä siihen montako kuoli suomalaisilla keskitysleireillä nälkään ja syyllistä sitten vasta. Se sinun leipäsikö heidät siellä nälkään tappoi?

Pohjolan? Viimeiksihän matkakirjailija ilmoitti, että kysessä on maailmanhistorian suurin ei vain ihmisoikeusrikkomus, vaan kerrassaan rikos.

jäljessä kirjoitti:

Pohjolan? Viimeiksihän matkakirjailija ilmoitti, että kysessä on maailmanhistorian suurin ei vain ihmisoikeusrikkomus, vaan kerrassaan rikos.

Hah kyllä on älytön propagandisti taas stagella.