kuuluvansa 144000 ja olevansa elossa Jeesuksen tullessa. Se joka niin väittää, selvitämme IP-osoitteen ja syyte tulee väärien tietojen levittämisestä, halventamisesta, mustamaalauksesta ja kiihotuksesta kansanryhmää vastaan.
juristi J.P.S
juristi J.P.S
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Vanhimmat
niin, että minulla on koko Ellen Whiten tuotanto, ja kyllä hänelle enkeli näyssä sanoo, että Ellen laskettaisiin kuuluvaksi tuohon 144000, jos hän pysyisi uskollisena loppuun saakka (kuten pysyi).
Se on totta, että hän ei sanonut olevansa elossa. Hän *toivoi* olevansa (niinhän Paavalikin toivoi).
yx advari
ensin selvittää IP osoitteesi :)
voinkin laittaa sitten sen tekstin tänne:
".. And as we were about to enter the holy temple, Jesus raised His lovely voice and said, "Only the 144,000 enter this place," and we shouted, "Alleluia. This temple was supported by seven pillars, all of transparent gold, set with pearls most glorious. The wonderful things I there saw I cannot describe. Oh, that I could talk in the language of Canaan, then could I tell a little of the glory of the better world. I saw there tables of stone in which the names of the 144,000 were engraved in letters of gold. After we beheld the glory of the temple, we went out, and Jesus left us and went to the city ..." (Early Writings 18.2-3)
"Then the angel said, "You must go back, and if you are faithful, you, with the 144,000, shall have the privilege of visiting all the worlds and viewing the handiwork of God." (Early Writings 39.3)
Muutama 144000 lainaus lisää, josta minä ainakin saan sellaisen kuvan, että EGW uskoi kuuluvansa 144000 joukkoon. White säätiö on kyllä tulkinnut lainaukset vähän eri lailla. Myöskin rouva Hastings, joka oli silloin juuri kuollut herätetään, EGW:n mukaan, 144000 joukkoon kuuluvaksi.
http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/144000.html#Mrs. White and the 144,000
"The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely. They bore the express image of Jesus, and their countenances beamed with holy joy, expressive of the freedom and happiness of the place. . . . I begged of my attending angel to let me remain in that place. I could not bear the thought of coming back to this dark world again. Then the angel said, 'You must go back, and if you are faithful, you, with* the 144,000, shall have the privilege of visiting all the worlds and viewing the handiwork of God.'"--Early Writings, pp. 39, 40.
"Let us strive with all the power that God has given us to be among the hundred and forty-four thousand. And let us do all that we can to help others to gain heaven."--Review and Herald, March 9, 1905.
"I saw that she [Mrs. Hastings, who had just died] was sealed and would come up at the voice of God and stand upon the earth, and would be with the 144,000. I saw we need not mourn for her; she would rest in the time of trouble."--Letter 10, 1850 (2SM 263).
OLET ADVENTISMIIN EKSYNEITTEN KUNKKU.
kun noin sanot.
juristeja jotka on yhtä tolloja kun sinä.
juristi T.S.