.. tai toisaalta voisi sanoa, että se
(->kristinusko) myös sikiää ainoastaan pimeydestä.
Mielestäni hyvä artikkeli Einsteiniltä.
(Ja niille uskovaisille, jotka eivät osaa englantia: turha ruikuttaa jos lintsasitte englanninkursseilta :-P Suomensin kuitenkin yhden kohdan loppuun, jota haluaisin muutenkin korostaa)
"The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events the firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of this ordered regularity for causes of a different nature. For him neither the rule of human nor the rule of divine will exist as an independent cause of natural events. To be sure, the doctrine of a personal God interfering with the natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science, for this doctrine can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet been able to set foot. But I am persuaded that such behaviour on the part of the representatives of religion would not only be unworthy but also fatal. For a doctrine which is able to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress....
If it is one of the goals of religions to liberate mankind as far as possible from the bondage of egocentric cravings, desires, and fears, scientific reasoning can aid religion in another sense. Although it is true that it is the goal of science to discover (the) rules which permit the association and foretelling of facts, this is not its only aim. It also seeks to reduce the connections discovered to the smallest possible number of mutually independent conceptual elements. It is in this striving after the rational unification of the manifold that it encounters its greatest successes, even though it is precisely this attempt which causes it to run the greatest risk of falling a prey to illusion. But whoever has undergone the intense experience of successful advances made in this domain, is moved by the profound reverence for the rationality made manifest in existence. By way of the understanding he achieves a far reaching emancipation from the shackles of personal hopes and desires, and thereby attains that humble attitude of mind toward the grandeur of reason, incarnate in existence, and which, in its profoundest depths, is inaccessible to man. This attitude, however, appears to me to be religious in the highest sense of the word. And so it seems to me that science not only purifies the religious impulse of the dross of its anthropomorphism but also contributes to a religious spiritualisation of our understanding of life."
-- Albert Einstein, Science, Philosophy, and Religion, A Symposium, published by the Conference on Science, Philosophy and Religion in Their Relation to the Democratic Way of Life, Inc., New York, 1941"
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"the doctrine of a personal God interfering with the natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science, for this doctrine can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet been able to set foot. But I am persuaded that such behaviour on the part of the representatives of religion would not only be unworthy but also fatal. For a doctrine which is able to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress...."
(Älkääkä sitten suomennokseen turvautuvat valittako käännöksen tasosta, kun sellaisen kuitenkin vaivauduin suitaisemaan iloksenne)
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Oppia persoonallisesta jumalasta, joka peukaloi maailmaa [luonnonilmiöitä], ei voitaisi koskaan täysin osoittaa vääräksi aidosti tieteen nimissä, koska tämä oppi voi aina paeta sellaisiin paikkoihin, joissa tieteellinen tietous ei ole vielä saanut jalansijaa. Mutta, voisi sanoa että moinen menettely uskonnon edustajien suunnalta ei olisi ainoastaan kelvotonta, vaan myös kohtalokasta. Opilta, joka ei pysty selviämään selkeässä valossa [=ymmärryksen ja tiedon=], vaan ainoastaan pimennossa, menettää [=lopulta=] olosuhteiden pakosta otteensa ihmiskunnasta, [=mutta?]mittaamattomalla harmilla sen kehitykselle..
(->kristinusko) myös sikiää ainoastaan pimeydestä.
Mielestäni hyvä artikkeli Einsteiniltä.
(Ja niille uskovaisille, jotka eivät osaa englantia: turha ruikuttaa jos lintsasitte englanninkursseilta :-P Suomensin kuitenkin yhden kohdan loppuun, jota haluaisin muutenkin korostaa)
"The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events the firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of this ordered regularity for causes of a different nature. For him neither the rule of human nor the rule of divine will exist as an independent cause of natural events. To be sure, the doctrine of a personal God interfering with the natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science, for this doctrine can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet been able to set foot. But I am persuaded that such behaviour on the part of the representatives of religion would not only be unworthy but also fatal. For a doctrine which is able to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress....
If it is one of the goals of religions to liberate mankind as far as possible from the bondage of egocentric cravings, desires, and fears, scientific reasoning can aid religion in another sense. Although it is true that it is the goal of science to discover (the) rules which permit the association and foretelling of facts, this is not its only aim. It also seeks to reduce the connections discovered to the smallest possible number of mutually independent conceptual elements. It is in this striving after the rational unification of the manifold that it encounters its greatest successes, even though it is precisely this attempt which causes it to run the greatest risk of falling a prey to illusion. But whoever has undergone the intense experience of successful advances made in this domain, is moved by the profound reverence for the rationality made manifest in existence. By way of the understanding he achieves a far reaching emancipation from the shackles of personal hopes and desires, and thereby attains that humble attitude of mind toward the grandeur of reason, incarnate in existence, and which, in its profoundest depths, is inaccessible to man. This attitude, however, appears to me to be religious in the highest sense of the word. And so it seems to me that science not only purifies the religious impulse of the dross of its anthropomorphism but also contributes to a religious spiritualisation of our understanding of life."
-- Albert Einstein, Science, Philosophy, and Religion, A Symposium, published by the Conference on Science, Philosophy and Religion in Their Relation to the Democratic Way of Life, Inc., New York, 1941"
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"the doctrine of a personal God interfering with the natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science, for this doctrine can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet been able to set foot. But I am persuaded that such behaviour on the part of the representatives of religion would not only be unworthy but also fatal. For a doctrine which is able to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress...."
(Älkääkä sitten suomennokseen turvautuvat valittako käännöksen tasosta, kun sellaisen kuitenkin vaivauduin suitaisemaan iloksenne)
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Oppia persoonallisesta jumalasta, joka peukaloi maailmaa [luonnonilmiöitä], ei voitaisi koskaan täysin osoittaa vääräksi aidosti tieteen nimissä, koska tämä oppi voi aina paeta sellaisiin paikkoihin, joissa tieteellinen tietous ei ole vielä saanut jalansijaa. Mutta, voisi sanoa että moinen menettely uskonnon edustajien suunnalta ei olisi ainoastaan kelvotonta, vaan myös kohtalokasta. Opilta, joka ei pysty selviämään selkeässä valossa [=ymmärryksen ja tiedon=], vaan ainoastaan pimennossa, menettää [=lopulta=] olosuhteiden pakosta otteensa ihmiskunnasta, [=mutta?]mittaamattomalla harmilla sen kehitykselle..
Vastaukset 2
Vanhimmat
...sillä valon voimahan toki ymmärryksen vajaavuuden voittanee,kö ?!?
Tahi ehkäpä tuon uskon väkevyys nesteytyksen kera negaationa todentunee,kö ?!?
lol
;-)
no, ensiksikin sanon, että on hauskaa, että olet päättänyt ilmaista itseäsi sekavasti ja hieman värikkäämmin, kuin palstalaiset yleensä.
toiseksi, varmaan toteutat tietoisesti noin kehnoa kommunikaatiota, joten en katso olevan vaivan arvoista keskustella kanssasi sen enempää, kuin örisevän puliukon.