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hyvää syytä, miksi piti katsoa. Katsoin kyllä. Typerä juttu.
mielipiteeseen.... lisäksi oli todella huonosti piirretty!
..., että viimeisellä tuomiolla olisi Jeesuksen ja Elohimin lisäksi Joseph Smith tuomitsemassa? En ainakaan omien MAP-opetusten mukaan muista mitään tuollaista koskaan kuulleeni?
Mielestäni MAP-opin mukaan ainoastaan Jeesus on tuomitsemassa.....?
BY opetti näin monessa otteessa:
“…namely, that no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are—I with you and you with me. I cannot go there without his consent. He holds the keys of that kingdom for the last dispensation—the keys to rule in the spirit-world; and he rules there triumphantly, for he gained full power and a glorious victory over the power of Satan while he was yet in the flesh, and was a martyr to his religion and to the name of Christ, which gives him a most perfect victory in the spirit-world. He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. Many will exclaim—"Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous! We cannot bear the thought!" But it is true.”
Journal of Discourses, 7:288-89
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Vartiosotilas Joseph Smith:
If we can pass the sentinel Joseph the Prophet, we shall go into the celestial kingdom, and not a man can injure us. If he says, "God bless you, come along here;" if we will live so that Joseph will justify us, and say, "Here am I, brethren," we shall pass every sentinel; there will be no danger but that we will pass into the celestial kingdom.
Jod 4
http://journalofdiscourses.org/Vol_04/refJDvol4-50.html
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again." -Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
Ylösnousemus
"How are you going to get your resurrection? You will get it by the President of the resurrection pertaining to this generation, and that is Joseph Smith Jun. Hear it all ye ends of the earth; if ever you enter into the kingdom of God it is because Joseph Smith let you go there. This will apply to Jews and Gentiles, to the bond, and the free; to friends and foes; no man or woman in this generation will get a resurrection and be crowned, without Joseph Smith saying so. The man who was martyred in Carthage Jail, State of Illinois, holds the keys of life and death to this generation. He is the President of the resurrection in this dispensation, ... "
(an unpublished discourse given October 8, 1854. Also found on page 99 of Eugene E. Campbell's book entitled, The Essential Brigham Young).
Mormoniopin mukaan Joseph Smith on viimeisen armotalouden johtaja, ja jotta pääsisi selestiseen tulee mormonismi ja Smith hyväksyä.
Pelastuksen oppeja-kirjassa mm. sanotaan
No Salvation Without Accepting Joseph Smith.
If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth when he said that he stood in the presence of angels sent from the Lord, and obtained keys of authority, and the commandment to organize the Church of Jesus Christ once again on the earth, then this knowledge is of the most vital importance to the entire world. No man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God. It is, therefore, the duty of every man to investigate that he may weigh this matter carefully and know the truth.
Hieman uudempi lainaus
“There is no greater prophet in any dispensation than Joseph Smith… Joseph Smith was a
prophet, and all the calumny and aspirations to the contrary cannot controvert that fact.
Anyone who has concern for the welfare of his eternal soul should give attention to this
message. Every man who has lived since the days of Joseph Smith is subject to accepting
him as a prophet of God in order to enter into our Heavenly father’s presence” (A.
Theodore Tuttle, “Joseph Smith re-established fullness of true gospel, Church,” Church
News, March 17, 2001, p.14)
Brigham Young varsinkin opetti tuota. Pelotteli siis ihmisiä. Ja Briggie boyhan oli kirkon 2. profeetta-presidentti...
Ei kai sitäkään nyt enää kehdata opettaa pyhäkoulussa tms. sehän olisi ihan naurettavaa.
MAP-kirkko haluaa säännöllisesti harjata 'roskat' maton alle loppusäilytykseen. Sitten tulee aina meitä jotka olemme lukeneet enemmän ja tuomme esiin noita ikäviä juttuja.
Sitten alkaa mormonien väittäminen siitä miten kaikki vain valehtelee ja vainoaa mormoneja...
mormoni ymmärtää tuon opin armotalouden/taloudenhoitokauden johtajan osallistumisesta oman aikansa ihmisten tuomioon.
Aadam vastaa omasta ajastaan, Nooa omastaan, Mooses omastaan jne. Joseph Smith vastaa tietenkin viimeisestä. Mitä outoa siinä on?
Ei tuota lakaise maton alle kuin ei-mormoni harhaisissa haaveissaan. Jolle 'valehtelu ja vaino' ovat elämäntapa.