Jeesus oli väärä messias...

...jos uskomme juutalaisia. Ja miksipä emme,
he taitavat apokryfiset tekstit parhaiten,
kyllä he tietävät kuka on messias ja kuka ei.

Tai no ei sittenkään...

Tässä lista juutalaisten messiaista:



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* Simon (ca. 4 BC), a former slave of Herod the Great who rebelled.
* Athronges (ca. 3 BC)
* Judas of Galilee (?), son of Hezekiah/Ezekias, a member of the Zealots faction who led a bloody revolt against a Roman census in AD 6. (JA18)
* Jesus of Nazareth (ca. 4 BC - AD 30-?), a wandering prophet and teacher who was crucified by the Romans; Jews who believed him to be the Messiah were the first Christians, also known as Jewish Christians.
* Theudas (? - 46), who attempted a short-lived revolt against the Romans before being slain. (JA20.5.1)
* "Egyptian Prophet", c.55, (an allusion to Moses[citation needed]), with 30,000 unarmed Jews doing The Exodus reenactment massacred by Procurator Antonius Felix (JW2.13.5, JA20.8.6, Acts 21:38)[2]
* Menahem ben Judah (?), allegedly son of Judas of Galilee, partook in a revolt against Agrippa II before being slain by a rival Zealot leader.
* Vespasian, c.70, according to Josephus[3]
* Simon bar Kokhba (?- ca. 135), founded a short-lived Jewish state before being defeated in the Second Jewish-Roman War.
* Moses of Crete (?), who in about 440-470, convinced the Jews of Crete to attempt to walk into the sea to return to Israel; he disappeared after that disaster.
* Ishak ben Ya'kub Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani (684-705), who led a revolt in Persia against the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan.
o Yudghan (?), a disciple of Abu 'Isa who continued the faith after Isa was slain.
* Serene (?), who around 720 claimed to be the Messiah and advocated expulsion of Muslims and relaxing various rabbinic laws before being arrested; he then recanted.
* David Alroy (?), born in Kurdistan, who around 1160 agitated against the caliph before being assassinated.
* Nissim ben Abraham (?), active around 1295.
* Moses Botarel of Cisneros (?), active around 1413; claimed to be a sorcerer able to combine the names of God.
* Asher Lemmlein (?), a German near Venice who proclaimed himself a forerunner of the Messiah in 1502.
* David Reubeni (1490-1541?) and Solomon Molcho (1500-1532), adventurers who travelled in Portugal, Italy, and Turkey; Molcho was eventually burned at the stake by the Pope.
* A mostly unknown Czech Jew from around the 1650s.[4]
* Sabbatai Zevi (1626-1676), an Ottoman Jew who claimed to be the Messiah, but then converted to Islam; still has followers today in the Donmeh.
o Barukhia Russo (Osman Baba), successor of Sabbatai Zevi.
o Jacob Querido (?-1690), claimed to be the new incarnation of Sabbatai; later converted to Islam and led the Donmeh.
o Miguel Cardoso (1630-1706), another successor of Sabbatai who claimed to be the "Messiah ben Ephraim."
o Mordecai Mokia (1650-1729), "the Rebuker," another person who proclaimed himself Messiah after Sabbatai's death.
o Löbele Prossnitz (?-1750), a proven fraud who nevertheless attained some following amongst former followers of Sabbatai, calling himself the "Messiah ben Joseph."
* Jacob Joseph Frank (1726-1791), who claimed to be the reincarnation of King David and preached a synthesis of Christianity and Judaism.
* Menachem Mendel Schneerson (1902-1994), a Chabad Rabbi who tried to "prepare the way" for the Messiah. Despite much controversy, most of his followers believed him to be the Messiah, many still do.

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Mutta kristitty eivät tiedä sitäkään vähää
muinaisteksteistä, mutta kovia hekin ovat
keksimään messiaita:


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* Simon Magus and Dositheos the Samaritan[5], mid first century
* Montanus, who claimed to be the promised Paraclete, mid second century
* Adalbert, a bishop who claimed miraculous powers circa 744; he was excommunicated by the Pope.
* Tanchelm of Antwerp (ca. 1110), who violently opposed the sacrament and the Eucharist.
* Ann Lee (1736-1784), a central figure to the Shakers who thought she "embodied all the perfections of God" in female form.
* Bernhard Müller (c.1799-1834) claimed to be the Lion of Judah and a prophet in possession of the Philosopher's stone.
* John Nichols Thom (1799-1838), a Cornish tax rebel.
* Arnold Potter (1804–1872), Latter Day Saint schismatic leader; called himself "Potter Christ"
* Hong Xiuquan of China (1812-1864), claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus.
* Bahá'u'lláh (1817-1892), born Shiite, adopting Bábism later in life, he claimed to be the promised one of all religions, and founded the Bahá'í Faith.
* William W. Davies (1833–1906), Latter Day Saint schismatic leader; claimed that his infant son Arthur (b. 1868) was the reincarnated Jesus Christ
* George Baker (c. 1880 – September 10, 1965), also known as Father Divine, was an African American spiritual leader from about 1907 until his death.
* Haile Selassie of Ethiopia (1892-1975), Messiah of the Rastafari movement. Never claimed himself to be messiah, but was proclaimed by Leonard Howell, amongst others.
* Georges-Emest Roux (1903-1981), the "Christ of Montfavet," founder of the Eglise Chrétienne Universelle.
* Sun Myung Moon (b. 1920), founder of the Unification Church. Claims he is the Second Coming of Christ.[6][7]
* Yahweh ben Yahweh (1935-2007), born as Hulon Mitchell, Jr., a black nationalist and separatist who created the Nation of Yahweh and allegedly orchestrated the murder of dozens of persons.
* Iesu Matayoshi (b. 1944), in 1997 he established the World Economic Community Party based on his conviction that he is God and the Christ.
* Jung Myung Seok (b. 1945), claims to be the Second Coming of Christ, founder of Providence Church, and convicted rapist.
* Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda (b. 1946), a Puerto Rican preacher who has claimed to be "the Man Jesus Christ", who is indwelled with the same spirit that dwelled in Jesus. Founder of the Growing in grace" ministries.
* Inri Cristo (b. 1948) of Indaial, Brazil, a claimant to be the second Jesus.[8]
* Apollo Quiboloy (b. 1950) Claims that Jesus Christ is the Almighty Father. He is the Appointed Son (Rev. 21:7), Says salvation is now completed. He is called "His Appointed Son" by thousands in the Philippines and now in other countries.
* David Icke (b. 1952), of Great Britain, has described himself as "the son of God," and a "channel for the Christ spirit."
* David Koresh (Vernon Wayne Howell) (1959-1993), leader of the Branch Davidians.
* Maria Devi Christos (b. 1960), founder of the Great White Brotherhood.
* Sergei Torop (b. 1961) who started to call himself "Vissarion," founder of the Church of the Last Testament and the spiritual community Ecopolis Tiberkul in Southern Siberia.
* Wayne Bent (b. 1941), also known as Michael Travesser of the Strong City Cult, arraigned May 8, 2008 for charges of sexually molesting underage followers.
* David Shayler (b. 1965) ("Righteous Chav") who declared himself the Messiah in 2007.

(lähde: Wikipedia, list of messiahs claimants)
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Näitten perusteella jeesus ei ollut messias.
Juutalaiset eivät valittuna kansana hyväksyneet
jeesusta messiaaksi (heidän olisi pitänyt tietää,
vai vittuiliko jumala heille? Ei olisi ensimmäinen
kerta, ei tarvi katsoa edes kovin kauas
menneisyyteen).

jeesus toi väkivaltaa maailmaan kuten moni
muukin messias-ehdokas ja kuoli rikollisena.
jeesus ei ollut mitään poikkeuksellista
muihin messiaisiin. Kaikkien muidenkin on
väitetty pystyvän ihmetekoihin ja heidän
lupaamansa uusi valtakunta on päättynyt
verilöylyyn, omaan tai/ja muiden.

Miksi jeesus-puujumalasta tuli niin suosittu,
johtuu yksinkertaisesti siitä, että kristityt
pääsivät levittämään omaa uloste-aatettaan
aikansa valtakunnan johtoon. jeesus olisi
muuten vain yksi väärä messias muiden
joukossa.


Ps. Luulisi juutalaisen ja hihun tajuavan
jo vuosituhansien odotuksen jälkeen ettei
ketään ole tulossa.

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