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- Markuksen salainen evankeliumi perustuu Morton Smith-nimisen henkilön väitteeseen, että hän olisi löytänyt Kleemens Aleksandrialaisen (n. 150-215) kirjeen, jossa olisi mainittu tästä teoksesta.
Ongelmana vain on, ettei kukaan ole koskaan nähnyt Markuksen salainen evankeliumi-nimistä teosta. Lisäksi ongelmana myös on, ettei kukaan ole koskaan nähnyt edellämainittua Kleemensinkään kirjettä; se hävisi jotenkin salaperäisesti siitä luostarista, josta Morton Smith väitti sen löytäneensä! Kun ovat kyseessä tällaiset todisteet, on niiden arvo yhtä tyhjän kanssa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gospel_of_Mark
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In the Mar Saba letter, the Secret Gospel of Mark is described as a second "more spiritual" version of the Gospel of Mark composed by the evangelist himself. Its purpose was supposedly to encourage knowledge (gnosis) among more advanced Christians, and it was said to be in use in liturgies in Alexandria.[1]
The letter includes two excerpts from the Secret Gospel. The first is to be inserted, Clement states, between what are verses 34 and 35 of Mark 10:
And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And, coming, she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him, 'Son of David, have mercy on me.' But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her into the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of the Jordan.[2]
The second excerpt is very brief and is to be inserted, according to Clement, in Mark 10:46:
And the sister of the youth whom Jesus loved and his mother and Salome were there, and Jesus did not receive them.[3]
Suomalainen kommentoija on huuliveikko.
Vain mielenvikainen voi olettaa, että luostari ja kristillinen yhteisö ei peittelisi jälkiä kaikin mahdollisin keinoin.
Ensinnäkin, se on takuuvarmaa, että he olisivat piilottaneet syvimpään mahdolliseen luolaan tai tuhonneet paljastuneet alkuperäiset jakeet raamatusta, jotka kertovat Jeesuksen seksuaalisuudesta katastrofaalisen totuuden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gospel_of_Mark
The young man in the linen cloth
In Mark 14:51-52, a young man in a linen cloth is seized during Jesus' arrest, but he escapes at the cost of his clothing. This passage seems to have little to do with the rest of the narrative, and it has given cause to various interpretations. Often it is suggested that the young man is Mark himself. Some commentators believe that the boy was a stranger, who lived near the garden and, after being awakened, ran out, half-dressed, to see what all the noise was about (vv. 46-49).[6] W.L. Lane thinks that Mark mentioned this episode in order to make it clear that "all (not only the disciples) fled, leaving Jesus alone in the custody of the police."[7] However these explanations are not entirely satisfactory.
The same Greek word neaniskos (young man) is used both in Secret Mark and in Mark 14:51. If we accept Helmut Koester's theory that the canonical Mark is a revision of Secret Mark,[8] another explanation is possible, namely,
- Markuksen salainen evankeliumi perustuu Morton Smith-nimisen henkilön väitteeseen, että hän olisi löytänyt Kleemens Aleksandrialaisen (n. 150-215) kirjeen, jossa olisi mainittu tästä teoksesta.
Ongelmana vain on, ettei kukaan ole koskaan nähnyt Markuksen salainen evankeliumi-nimistä teosta. Lisäksi ongelmana myös on, ettei kukaan ole koskaan nähnyt edellämainittua Kleemensinkään kirjettä; se hävisi jotenkin salaperäisesti siitä luostarista, josta Morton Smith väitti sen löytäneensä! Kun ovat kyseessä tällaiset todisteet, on niiden arvo yhtä tyhjän kanssa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gospel_of_Mark
[edit] Content
In the Mar Saba letter, the Secret Gospel of Mark is described as a second "more spiritual" version of the Gospel of Mark composed by the evangelist himself. Its purpose was supposedly to encourage knowledge (gnosis) among more advanced Christians, and it was said to be in use in liturgies in Alexandria.[1]
The letter includes two excerpts from the Secret Gospel. The first is to be inserted, Clement states, between what are verses 34 and 35 of Mark 10:
And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And, coming, she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him, 'Son of David, have mercy on me.' But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her into the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of the Jordan.[2]
The second excerpt is very brief and is to be inserted, according to Clement, in Mark 10:46:
And the sister of the youth whom Jesus loved and his mother and Salome were there, and Jesus did not receive them.[3]
Suomalainen kommentoija on huuliveikko.
Vain mielenvikainen voi olettaa, että luostari ja kristillinen yhteisö ei peittelisi jälkiä kaikin mahdollisin keinoin.
Ensinnäkin, se on takuuvarmaa, että he olisivat piilottaneet syvimpään mahdolliseen luolaan tai tuhonneet paljastuneet alkuperäiset jakeet raamatusta, jotka kertovat Jeesuksen seksuaalisuudesta katastrofaalisen totuuden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Gospel_of_Mark
The young man in the linen cloth
In Mark 14:51-52, a young man in a linen cloth is seized during Jesus' arrest, but he escapes at the cost of his clothing. This passage seems to have little to do with the rest of the narrative, and it has given cause to various interpretations. Often it is suggested that the young man is Mark himself. Some commentators believe that the boy was a stranger, who lived near the garden and, after being awakened, ran out, half-dressed, to see what all the noise was about (vv. 46-49).[6] W.L. Lane thinks that Mark mentioned this episode in order to make it clear that "all (not only the disciples) fled, leaving Jesus alone in the custody of the police."[7] However these explanations are not entirely satisfactory.
The same Greek word neaniskos (young man) is used both in Secret Mark and in Mark 14:51. If we accept Helmut Koester's theory that the canonical Mark is a revision of Secret Mark,[8] another explanation is possible, namely,
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