Arabit ei ole uhka meille..

Just niin, sanoit että ha tekevät käsitöinä
Kalashnikovia parissa päivässä.
Siinä on se homma vikana että he tekevät kaikki
aseet käsitöinä eikä koneilla, niillä ei ole
länsimaan teollisuutta koska kaikki aseet tehdään
bazaareissa, länsimaathan (Suomi) SYLKEE AK
47:koja muutamassa sekunissa KONEILLA.

amazing the amount of ignorance, senility, and
fatalism you guys display.i wonder if you all
suffer from parkinson disease.first; serious
analysts,both american,israelien and european,
think that this cowardly act of terror against
civilians is internal, most of the suspects (from
saudia, yemen, egypt and lebanon )lived in the
U.S for years.according to the F.B.I two of them
had drinks in a bar prior to the hijacking.real
muslims don´t drink, ossama bin laden affiliates
think they are going to heaven by fighting the
enemy, they know well that alcohol is forbidden
so most probably they are not, at least directly,
linked to him.let alone that they are
fundamentalists.it´s not possible.second there is
over a billion muslim in this planet, and twenty
two arab country, and most of these people are
surprisingly like us, try to cope with life´s
hardship and make the best out of it.true some
arabs, some muslims ( in the media at mostly )
resent the situation in iraq, in palestine and so
on but most of them get on with their life.all
fundamentalism is dangerous be it muslim, jewish
or christian.remember when oklahoma was blown it
was the american extreme right, and nobody went
on branding all white americans.the mainstream
media nowdays is owned by corporation that feeds
rates and revenues, so i won´t just volunteer to
be brainwashed.use your heads, in this age one
can find out if one is truly interested.so you
guys should back up if you are not interrested.

c-mour kirjoitti:

amazing the amount of ignorance, senility, and
fatalism you guys display.i wonder if you all
suffer from parkinson disease.first; serious
analysts,both american,israelien and european,
think that this cowardly act of terror against
civilians is internal, most of the suspects (from
saudia, yemen, egypt and lebanon )lived in the
U.S for years.according to the F.B.I two of them
had drinks in a bar prior to the hijacking.real
muslims don´t drink, ossama bin laden affiliates
think they are going to heaven by fighting the
enemy, they know well that alcohol is forbidden
so most probably they are not, at least directly,
linked to him.let alone that they are
fundamentalists.it´s not possible.second there is
over a billion muslim in this planet, and twenty
two arab country, and most of these people are
surprisingly like us, try to cope with life´s
hardship and make the best out of it.true some
arabs, some muslims ( in the media at mostly )
resent the situation in iraq, in palestine and so
on but most of them get on with their life.all
fundamentalism is dangerous be it muslim, jewish
or christian.remember when oklahoma was blown it
was the american extreme right, and nobody went
on branding all white americans.the mainstream
media nowdays is owned by corporation that feeds
rates and revenues, so i won´t just volunteer to
be brainwashed.use your heads, in this age one
can find out if one is truly interested.so you
guys should back up if you are not interrested.

Listen to yourself! Who has been brainwashed by
mullahs?!

I don't have anything to add to my previous
message on the basis of your comments.

Observer kirjoitti:

Listen to yourself! Who has been brainwashed by
mullahs?!

I don't have anything to add to my previous
message on the basis of your comments.

i am a caucasian native of N.Y with christian
education who do not to church anymore as the
majority of people.stating one´s independent and
justified opinion about this issue hardly put me
with the brainwashed.defending reason, our
precious gift ( because of reson we have
computers and internet!) is a noble mission Mr.i-
got-hurt,i-am-angry,i-took-it-too-personal.i´ve
got an advice for u, either u r interrested and
so get properly informed ( fortunately, HS is not
the only source ) or surf the porn pages.

white native of N.Y in HK kirjoitti:

i am a caucasian native of N.Y with christian
education who do not to church anymore as the
majority of people.stating one´s independent and
justified opinion about this issue hardly put me
with the brainwashed.defending reason, our
precious gift ( because of reson we have
computers and internet!) is a noble mission Mr.i-
got-hurt,i-am-angry,i-took-it-too-personal.i´ve
got an advice for u, either u r interrested and
so get properly informed ( fortunately, HS is not
the only source ) or surf the porn pages.

all americans are some sort of natives from
somewhere else. Except, of course, "indians" or
preferably native americans, which "cowboys"
wasted to almost non-existence already ages ago...

HS is far more reliable source of information
than american news agencies, which are
manipulated by George Bush Dummer government (f.
ex. CNN or ABC) Therefore I wouldn't come to this
site and start blaming people about ignorance
reading HS. Of course, I collect my information
more widely than just HS and form my opinion on
the basis of that.

If you want to prove your knowledge about the
arabs and muslims and the situation in general,
you must find better arguments "than true muslim
doesn't drink alcohol, therefore islamists cannot
be blamed for what happened".

I wish you all the best on your way growing up
and becoming an adult.

Observer kirjoitti:

all americans are some sort of natives from
somewhere else. Except, of course, "indians" or
preferably native americans, which "cowboys"
wasted to almost non-existence already ages ago...

HS is far more reliable source of information
than american news agencies, which are
manipulated by George Bush Dummer government (f.
ex. CNN or ABC) Therefore I wouldn't come to this
site and start blaming people about ignorance
reading HS. Of course, I collect my information
more widely than just HS and form my opinion on
the basis of that.

If you want to prove your knowledge about the
arabs and muslims and the situation in general,
you must find better arguments "than true muslim
doesn't drink alcohol, therefore islamists cannot
be blamed for what happened".

I wish you all the best on your way growing up
and becoming an adult.

i am not sure if i follow u buddy ho, u r saying
things i didn´t.it´s good your reading diet is
varied and colorful i suppose. but HS is only one
newspaper, u do know what´s the outcome when
people feed on one news source or one type of
news sources.i am not sure dummy bush manipulate
cnn or nbc or fox, they already r manipulated by
those whose quest for power and the green knows
no limits, the same people, mind my french, who
back the republican and actually to a lesser
degree tha democratic party ( the same coin ).
personally because of my job my reading extend to
a dozen news sources from many countries.i wasn´t
critising HS per se, only that it´s so
dominant.and seemed to b what some quoted. also i
wasn´t showing my knowledge about islam or the
arabs, i was merely using logical reasoning to
find as any "brains-on" person a lot of holes in
the theories presented in the mass media,
including your beloved HS (try commondreams.org
for a start). as for wishing me good luck in my
growing up 2 b an adult, i´ve got a hunch that my
son is probably older than u, since u stupidly
lowered the debate to a sorry ass personal level
when u don´t even have the guts to sign your "
article" with your real name.
ps/ as irrelevant as it is let me tell that i
fought in 2 wars and i know now how silly and
senseless is any war.
shall ghandi b w/ u.

c-mour kirjoitti:

i am not sure if i follow u buddy ho, u r saying
things i didn´t.it´s good your reading diet is
varied and colorful i suppose. but HS is only one
newspaper, u do know what´s the outcome when
people feed on one news source or one type of
news sources.i am not sure dummy bush manipulate
cnn or nbc or fox, they already r manipulated by
those whose quest for power and the green knows
no limits, the same people, mind my french, who
back the republican and actually to a lesser
degree tha democratic party ( the same coin ).
personally because of my job my reading extend to
a dozen news sources from many countries.i wasn´t
critising HS per se, only that it´s so
dominant.and seemed to b what some quoted. also i
wasn´t showing my knowledge about islam or the
arabs, i was merely using logical reasoning to
find as any "brains-on" person a lot of holes in
the theories presented in the mass media,
including your beloved HS (try commondreams.org
for a start). as for wishing me good luck in my
growing up 2 b an adult, i´ve got a hunch that my
son is probably older than u, since u stupidly
lowered the debate to a sorry ass personal level
when u don´t even have the guts to sign your "
article" with your real name.
ps/ as irrelevant as it is let me tell that i
fought in 2 wars and i know now how silly and
senseless is any war.
shall ghandi b w/ u.

I don't know which one of us took it to personal
level, but never mind. For your information, I
doubt very much that you have a son of my age.

Could all this fuzz and buzz about bin Laden be
just Bush government way to draw everybody's
attention to Afganistan, while they already know
the real "evil-doers" and they are secretly
preparing some operation against them?

Observer kirjoitti:

I don't know which one of us took it to personal
level, but never mind. For your information, I
doubt very much that you have a son of my age.

Could all this fuzz and buzz about bin Laden be
just Bush government way to draw everybody's
attention to Afganistan, while they already know
the real "evil-doers" and they are secretly
preparing some operation against them?

now, that´s an interesting point, even possibly a
likely fact.though some of the media w/ the mosad
r already talking about a direct saddam led iraq
involvement both financially and logisticlly.but
i will still condemn the use even of the so
called justified force.most of the victims of
violence r unfortunatly the most innocent.so the
judiciary system still is the best long run
solution. combined legal efforts r the answer to
eradicate and stop the breeding of terrorism.in a
just society violence has no place and no
justification from anybody.

c-mour kirjoitti:

now, that´s an interesting point, even possibly a
likely fact.though some of the media w/ the mosad
r already talking about a direct saddam led iraq
involvement both financially and logisticlly.but
i will still condemn the use even of the so
called justified force.most of the victims of
violence r unfortunatly the most innocent.so the
judiciary system still is the best long run
solution. combined legal efforts r the answer to
eradicate and stop the breeding of terrorism.in a
just society violence has no place and no
justification from anybody.

I don't see much alternatives than a military
operation at this point. First of all, americans
want blood. Secondly, you can not negotiate with
these people the evidence is pointing at for the
moment.

One solution with a slight possibility to be
realistic could be that first there would take
place a precise military strike to known
terrorist training camps and save havens
(forensic investigation first would, of course,
be preferred, if there would be a chance to enter
them without using force). Secondly world wide
investigation should start (or should have
started already) about terrorist organiztions'
money traffic, training, command chains etc.
Maybe even using infiltration all involved should
be brought to justice and face severe punishment.

It would be even better, if extreme islamists
would face a trial in a moderate islamic country.
If they would be convicted in f.ex. USA or any
other western country, their support may even
rise as a "martyr".

Method I just described would reach the ultimate
objective, I mentioned in my previous message, to
unroot or weaken these extremist movements, so we
could go on with our life. But I'm a little bit
pessimistic about it would happen... My hope
rests on Colin Powell, he is the "brain" in Bush
government on this matter.

take care,
Observer