Perustuuko leskeksi jääneiden pappien uudelleenavioitumisen kielto kanoneihin? Olisiko kenelläkään tästä kanonisesta säädöksestä suoraa lainausta? Ortodoksina minua kiinnostaa tämä, koska monet ovat siitä minulta kyselleet, enkä ole asiaan kovin perehtynyt . Kiitos jo etukäteen vastauksista!
Leskeksi jääneet papit ja uudelleenavioituminen
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Perustuu sekä Raamattuun että kanoneihin. Papin tulee olla yhden vaimon mies. Kanonit kieltävät pappisvihkimyksen jälkeen avioitumisen. Oikeastaan enää diakoniksi vihkimisen jälkeen ei saa avioitua.
Tässä esimerkkejä kanoneista.
Pyhien apostolien säännöt. 17. sääntö: "Kasteen jälkeen kahteen avioliittoon vihitty tai sivuvaimon (avovaimon) ottanut ei voi olla piispana, ei presbyteerinä ei diakonina eikä ylimalkaan papiston luettelossa."
Pyhien apostolien säännöt. 26. sääntö: "Käskemme, että naimattomina kleerukseen (papistoon) tulleista ainoastaan lukijat ja laulajat saavat, jos haluavat, mennä naimisiin."
Jassoo! Tämä ja sitten ne välistävedot. Amen!
Pappi voi hylätä perheensä ja lihniä kauniin kanttorin kanssa toiseen maahan ja alkaa elää kuin olisi ollut pyhä...
Yhden vaimon mies=yhden naisen kanssa kerrallaan avioliitossa.Eli ei moniavioinen kuten simerkiksi muslimit ja muut kansat islamin alkuaikoina.
Pyhien apostolien säännöt.. Mistäs ne nämä on kiskottu?Mitä nämä ovat?Raamatustako?
Lukijoita ja laulajia ei Raamattu tunne.
Eli ei siis perustu Jumalan sanaan, vaan pelkästään ihmisten keksimiin perinnäissäätöihin, joita nuo teidän kanoninne ovat.
"Eli ei siis perustu Jumalan sanaan, vaan pelkästään ihmisten keksimiin perinnäissäätöihin, joita nuo teidän kanoninne ovat."
Sama yleensä koskee kaikkea lainsäädäntöä. Silti lakeja noudatetaan, pääsääntöisesti.
"Yhden vaimon mies=yhden naisen kanssa kerrallaan avioliitossa."
Senkö takia lutkukirkko kelpuuttaa lesboparit pappisvirkaan tuosta noin vaan?
Oletko kateellinen vai mistä kenkä puristaa?
"Lukijoita ja laulajia ei Raamattu tunne."
Raamatun aikana kun ei osattu lukea eikä laulaa.
Juu! Haluaisin minäkin syventää suhdetta Partolomeukseen audiennsiilla. Olen nähnyt hänestä unia...
ajatus, jonka mukaan kaikki pitäisi löytyä Raamatusta, ei perustu Raamattuun.
Raamatun aikana ei edes ollut olemassa Raamattua.
Mikään Lutherin keksintö ei paina yhtä paljon kuin kristinuskon 2000 vuoden traditio.
Raamatun aikana ei edes ollut olemassa Raamattua.
No REPS :D
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/canons_apostles_grabbe.htm
5. Let not a bishop, presbyter, or deacon put away his wife under pretense of religion. But, if he put her away, let him be excommunicated. If he persists, let him be deposed.
(Canon 51 of the Holy Apostles; Canons 4, 12, and 13 of the 6th Council; Canon 1 of St. Athanasius the Great). Banishment of a wife is forbidden for the clergy as this would appear to be condemnation of matrimony. However, abstaining from matrimony by bishops is an ancient tradition, deviation from which was noted and forbidden by the Canon 12 of the 6th Council.
The Orthodox Church has always recognized lawful marriage for members of the clergy. Marriage of the clergy was spoken of as a common occurrence since earliest Christian times. It is known that some of the apostles had wives. Only selection of bishops, since the 6th Council, is limited to the unmarried. The Canon requires punishment of those members of the clergy who, under the guise of religious reverence, divorce their wives. The first punishment for this offense is suspension, for a specified period of time, from the ranks of the clergy. If this punishment fails and the guilty member of the clergy remains divorced from his wife, the Canon then requires the more stern punishment of being deposed from the clergy.
The significance of being suspended from the clergy warrants explanation. Each bishop and presbyter serves not on the basis of inseparable individual power, but on behalf of the whole Church through which grace flows to the believers through the hierarchy. A presbyter receives this grace from the Church through his bishop and he cannot accomplish anything without the bishop's blessing. Suspension from clerical activity interrupts this flow of grace through the cleric much like the flow of electricity is interrupted by a broken wire. The effect [flow] of grace restarts only after removal of the suspension in due order.
A suspended cleric does not have the right to perform any action reserved for the clergy, including blessing the faithful. If, while on suspension, he communes the Holy Mysteries, he receives them not in his vestments and with the rest of the laity outside the altar. Being deposed from the clergy lowers the cleric to laity status and forever precludes him serving as a member of the clergy again.
17. He who has been twice married after baptism, or who has had a concubine, cannot become a bishop, or a presbyter, or a deacon, or any other of the sacerdotal list.
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/canons_apostles_grabbe.htm
Holy Scriptures, both in the Old and New Testaments, clearly establish that divine duties may only be performed by those who have not been married more than once (Leviticus 21:7, 21:13; 1 Timothy 3;2-13; Titus 1:5-6). This requirement comes forth from a high level of understanding of the virtue of abstention, as standing above marriage; and from another perspective of second marriage as a sign of moral weakness. This Canon was always observed in both the Eastern Church and the Western Church. It has applied to all on the sacerdotal list, beginning with readers and subdeacons.
The Canon states "after baptism." This means the requirement applies to those who are already Christian. Zonaras explains: "We believe that the Godly vessel of Holy Baptism makes possible, and no sin committed by anyone prior to baptism can make impossible, for a newly baptized person to be eligible as a member of the clergy. In addition, we need to keep in mind that if someone was baptized having a wife, and keeps that wife after baptism, that that is the first marriage.
The Canon reminds us also that having had a concubine is an obstacle to becoming a member of the clergy. This means that a person cannot become a member of the clergy if he has been in an unlawful cohabitation with a woman (outside of wedlock or equally, in a so-called civil marriage). The next Canon 18 adds further guidance to the above restriction by requiring the spouse of a candidate for the clergy to be of purity as well. (Canon 18 of the Holy Apostles; Canon 3 of the 6th Council; Canon 12 of St. Basil the Great; Leviticus 21:7, 21:13; 1 Timothy 3:2-13; Titus 1:5-6).
18. He who married a widow, or a divorced woman, or a harlot, or a servant-maid, or an actress, cannot become a bishop, or a presbyter, or a deacon, or any other of the sacerdotal list.
(Canons 3 and 26 of the 6th Council; Canon 8 of Council of Neocesaria; Canon 27 of St. Basil the Great). (Leviticus 21:14; 1 Corinthians 6:16). The family life of a presbyter needs the serve as an example for his flock (1 Timothy 3:2-8; Titus 1:6-9).
26. Of those who have been admitted to the clergy unmarried, we ordain that the readers and singers only may marry, if they wish.
(Canons 3, 6, and 13 of the 6th Council; Canon 10 of the Council of Ancyra; Canon 20 of the Council of Carthage).
48. If any layman put away his wife and marry another, or marry one who has been divorced by another man, let him be excommunicated.
51. If any bishop, or presbyter, or deacon, or any one of the sacerdotal list abstains from marriage, or flesh, or wine, not by way of religious restraint, but as abhorring them, forgetting that God made all things very good, and that he made man male and female, and blaspheming the work of creation, let him be corrected, or else be deposed and cast out of the Church. In like manner treat a layman.The Church has always supported abstinence and prescribes it during days of fasting. This Canon, on the other hand, is aimed at early heretics who had a disdain to marriage or certain foods as being somehow unclean. (Canon 53 of the Holy Apostles; Canon 13 of the 6th Council; Canon 14 of the Council of Ancyra; Canons 1, 2, 4, 14, and 21 of the Council of Gangra).
Ja vielä,
Coptic, and Ethiopian Orthodox churches also formulated their own collections.
61. If any accusation of fornication, adultery, or any other forbidden action be brought against a believer and he be convicted, let him not be promoted to the clergy.
Etsikää loput itse minä menen aamiaiselle.