Hyviä mielipiteitä maksulliselle menemisestä

Ihan samoja asioita, joista olen itsekin monta kertaa kirjoittanut. ATM-veljet rapkon takana ajattelevat ihan samoin

I've compared it to buying a medal as opposed to WINNING one in a contest, but your analogy is no less apt.

Yes, losing 'it' to a prostitute will give you the raw physical experience of having sex - and nothing else. But the stigma surrounding male virginity hinges on the notion that one consistently fails to attract anyone. And getting sex from prostitutes has nothing to do with attraction, just like how cheating on a test is no measure of academic skill.

I mean, let's not beat around the bush here: one of the most fundamental aspects of masculinity is the ability to attract others and pursue them into having sex with you. Thus, a 100% failure rate in attraction and DSR is one of the most emasculating experiences there is. (it certainly makes me feel emasculated, and at least for me, this feeling also has this nasty effect of making all my accomplishments feel trivial and irrelevant)

And using a prostitute's services changes nothing about any of that. If it gave the exact same psychological satisfaction as DSR, people like Seb and Onkel Willie wouldn't be posting here. Nor will you get even the tiniest bit more respect from society - the same guys who would condescendingly say "Nuh-uh! No-one's incel, you can just use a prostitute!" would either laugh behind your back or shame you to your face for being 'the guy who can only get laid with hookers'. Especially if you also happened to lose your virginity to a prostitute.

Seriously, if I had a dime for every time that a noncel said that losing your virginity to a prostitute is 'pathetic'...

In fact, I've actually seen it a few times that noncels gave permavirgins a weird sort of respect for not using prostitutes. "Yeah, it's too bad that you keep failing. But at least you're PLAYING fair" - that sorta thing. Not unlike the bit of respect that people will have towards the kid that keeps failing his tests but adamantly refuses to cheat.

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If you just want to experience sex strictu sensu in a clear-cut MANAGABLE context, then a prostitute is the logical choice. In fact, I'd even recommend this to adult virgins who have serious hangups about the act of sex.

But if you're looking for true intimacy rather than just sex, then prostitution won't be much help. In fact, it might even leave you feeling disillusioned, or it could end up emphasizing how you're still missing out the intimacy aspect.

Prostitution really is a solution - *a* solution - but only to a fraction of our DSR-related issues.

The few people that know I'm a 53-y.o. virgin have all SUGGESTED that I go to a hooker just to "get it over with". That's not how I look at it. I want intimacy in addition to sex. Going to a hooker would be nothing to celebrate. In fact, it would only make my situation worse. I would be an even bigger loser than I am now. It's not about pride. It's about common sense and functioning like a normal human being.

Most guys who go to hookers are either married (and no longer getting it from the wife), or they're committment-phobes. But they're not virgins my age. This has been DOCUMENTED.

If my last oneitis OFFERED to fuck me if I made a "contribution" to her favorite charity, I'm sure I'd do it. Yeah, I know it would really be no different than paying a prostitute. But my oneitis is someone I've known for many years, and I have feelings for her. She's not a total stranger who does it for a living. But there's not enough money in the world that would convince any non-prostitute to fuck me.

Tuolla sanotaan se sama asia, jonka minäkin olen sanonut miljoona kertaa, että miehuus määräytyy sen mukaan miten mies saa naisilta seksiä ja mies joka ei sitä saa ei ole normaali ihminen saati mies.

Maksulliselle meneminen tekee AT-miehestä entistä suuremman luuserin, koska silloin hän taipuu kohtaloonsa ja konkreettisesti myöntää itselleen huoriin menemällä, että seksiä ei ole pienintäkään mahdollisuutta saada muulla tavoin yhdeltäkään naiselta. Kun ATM lyö huoralle rahat kouraan niin samalla hetkellä hän lyötättää omaan otsaansa lähtemättömän seksuaalisen täysluuserin leiman ja hän myös tietää varsin hyvin, että se maksullinenkin nainen pidättelee oksennusta totaalikokemattoman aikamiehen sählätessä siinä pillun päällä. Hän on pohjaakin syvemmällä, siitä alaspäin ei enää pääse.

Vähän sama asia kuin jos ihminen, joka on vangittu rikoksesta, josta saa kuolemantuomion istuu sellisään niin hänen tilanteensa on vielä"roikkumassa" eli teoreettinen pieni mahdollisuus on välttää tuomio koska sitä ei ole vielä konkreettisesti julistettu vaikka se hyvin tiedossa onkin, mutta sitten kuin se tuomarin nuija pamahtaa pöytään, niin tuomio on lopullisesti sinetöity eikä toivoa enää ole. Samalla tavalla pamahtaa totaaliepäonnistujan leima AT-miehen otsaan kun hän lyö sille huoralle rahat kouraan. Thats the end of the line at the end of the line.